Sex: My British Job. Channel 4

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Anybody see this? It was just horrific. I really, really hope it reached the right audience: punters and their defenders. I doubt it, but I hope so

I read an overview. I think it is a better model than we currently have. It goes in the direction of decriminalisation but without the regulation. I think the decriminalisation of the seller is a good move. The heavier sentencing and social embarrassment is a good idea.

I still feel legalisation is the way forward. Trying to bring a large part of the industry above ground and regulated is what I'd try

Wow, that's a considered opinion.

wino said:

Because your objection is political-you believe that there can be no true equality while prostitution exists, that it is an example of male entitlement. Some of you think prostitution is" violence against women" and that the prostitution of one woman magically affects all, that all men are violent misogynists that all men are rapists.....mix and match which apply

Yeah, actually! Apart from thinking all men are violent rapist/misogynists. You are being histrionic to make me look unreasonable and it's timewasting bullshit...please don't do it.

But, otherwise, yes (apart from the word 'magically'; it's not magic, it's culture/socialisation). That's not an exhaustive list of my objections; there are plenty more, but that's a cracking start.

So you don't agree with any of that...or just don't care about it?

When - the social goal would be to try and firstly reduce the number of abusive pimps (coldly, try and attack their market). Compile lists of brothel owners and their work forces. Try and bring as much of it above board.

Why would you want to bring something so inherently misogynistic above board, I wonder?

The number of abusive pimps would increase. As demand increases, supply must also increase.

www.spiegel.de/international/germany/human-trafficking-persists-despite-legality-of-prostitution-in-germany-a-902533.html

Sab - because what we are doing now isn't working. You could have a register of punters. Employment law would affect employers.
The big thing is that there are people that don't see anything wrong with paying for sex. I believe they will do it regardless of the law. Regulating that may work.
This regulation would also cover trams and male prostitutes

Trans

Flora - why would demand increase?

Legalisation increases demand and normalises prostitution, resulting in 2 effects:

1. Increase in overall demand for prostitution.
2. Increase in trafficked women and girls to meet the demand.

In anonymous surveys, approx 85% of currently active punters (in London) say that some sort of criminalisation of the purchase of sex would stop them doing it. (Eaves)

When - that is a pimp as you know them now

Eaves- the men who buy sex

Sab - it depends how it's regulated.

Some sort of criminalisation is currently going on. Why are they punters?

bale unregulated brothels would flourish. They would be cheaper and the punters would remain hidden. Meanwhile, demand would increase as the legal brothels would normalise and legitimise the buying of women for sex.

Flora - this is why you would accompany it with something like the Nordic model.

You couldn't bring employment law, Health and Safety and risk assessments etc. into prostitution and keep the 'services' the same. The risk of physical pain, psychological issues and risk of infection would be too great to be legal, surely? Do you think?

Prostitutes would have to be self employed (not required to follow HSE etc.) so it wouldn't be as helpful as it sounds.

When - it would be regulated. So what would you do?

Youmake - you could. It would require the punters to be regulated and a governing body

Bale read some more about the Nordic model. Your idea is not consistent with that model.