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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Creepy horrible man...urgh

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KellyHopter · 25/08/2013 01:30

Not sure why I'm posting this really other than I feel a bit upset and angry and...I don't know really. Actually a bit tearful and that's not like me at all.

Had a quick drink with someone I've met a couple of times who seemed alright. I don't want to go into it all right now but basically, after a bit of talking to me like I was shit and telling me I'm not a very nice girl (I defended myself but why didn't I just leave??) he tells me about something he did with someone he was seeing which was completely inappropriate and horrible. And he said with such a fucking smug look on his face. The details don't really matter but basically was a "fantasy" of hers that he fulfilled. Whatever, I don't need to know this, I don't know her, i don't need or want to hear it. I said as much to him, said that he had no right to say something like that to me, what on earth made him think it was ok to say it to someone he barely knows?

He apologised, sort of, I went to the loo where I actually got a bit teary - it sounds stupid now but it felt so intrusive and deliberate and pointed. Came back out and got my jacket and said I'm off now, it's late, I'm tired and he followed me outside saying he'd call a cab, I said not to bother I'd be fine goodnight. And he sort of laughed and said 'gosh, I didn't take you for a prude, in fact I get the impression it's just the sort of thing you'd appreciate' Angry

I'm just so utterly pissed off, I'm honestly not some easily offended or upset person. I feel like he got me there because I had pissed him off earlier in the day by not seeing him and it was all set up purely to make me feel shit and intimidated.

I'm not making much sense, I am tired. And I'm sorry I know this should probably be in relationships but its not really about him, just the whole thing...I mean, wtf was it so important to him to put me in my place?

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extracrunchy · 25/08/2013 01:46

Nothing useful to say except I'd have felt exactly the same way. What a disgusting excuse for a man.

VodkaRevelation · 25/08/2013 01:49

He sounds an idiot. I also would have got upset. He tried to intimidate you. It worked. That makes him an idiot.

Although you felt shit you don't need to. You did nothing wrong and him
Speaking to you in that way does not lessen who you are.

TheMagicToyshop · 25/08/2013 01:54

Ugh how horrible, he sounds like a very nasty piece of work and a lucky escape. Being around someone like that can make you feel awful but you never need to see him again. Have a lovely Sunday - maybe phone a friend to sound off about this - guaranteed you will feel better soon.

KellyHopter · 25/08/2013 02:09

Thank you.
Sure I'll wake up tomorrow and just shrug it off. He's nothing to me and I won't ever have to see his smarmy face again.

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BOF · 25/08/2013 02:24

It sounds really horrible. I can sort of relate, in a tangential sort of way, because I once had a photographer show me porn in his car and say that he wanted my thoughts on posing like that (I was a life model for artists). I surprised myself really by getting very upset by it- like my offended feelings melded with my vulnerable feelings and anger with myself that I'd been naive and thought he was an ok guy.

I felt a bit overwhelmed and unsettled, like it seems you did.

It is a horrible feeling, but I guess it's your gut raising the red flags. You'll be ok, but it's so disappointing to realise that people you think are normal turn out to be sleazebags. It rocks your trust in people.

GetStuffezd · 25/08/2013 09:07

He sounds absolutely disgusting.
The comment about him supposing you'd have been the "type" to appreciate such a thing is insulting, and shows how you appear in his mind. I'm glad you got home ok.
Don't feel silly for getting teary - why the fuck should you have to hear his vile sexual remarks (probably concocted in his own head anyway)?

KellyHopter · 25/08/2013 11:24

Well I certainly feel better this morning. Still not sure exactly why it upset me so much but definitely relate to bof's reaction to creepy photographer

I think a good part of it was feeling offended that he thought I would be so easy to upset. And the fact he was right!

It's not like I felt confused at any point, I could see exactly what he was doing (including the negging from the start), it was all so blatant.

I'm just a bit annoyed I didn't leave sooner, think I was caught off-guard by him and wanting to defend myself. Stupid, I really shouldn't have been bothered what he thought of me. But he was telling me I'd been rude/dismissive of him and I really hadn't. Too easy to get caught up in not wanting to be the bad guy.

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OctopusPete8 · 25/08/2013 11:30

This is where I'm very different to most women...

I would have gone 'ok....' in a quite indifferent manner or laughed, or my favourite use 'banter' as obscene back, make them a joke. and tbh their ammo runs out v. quickly.

I appreciate your fragile atm , but don't be upset , focus on how pathetic he is. was he like a casual thing if I'm reading the op correctly , not like a BF?

KellyHopter · 25/08/2013 12:10

Not not a bf, just someone I had been it with a couple of times.

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KellyHopter · 25/08/2013 12:10

Out*

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KellyHopter · 25/08/2013 12:14

Oh fgs!
No, not a boyfriend

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NiceTabard · 25/08/2013 12:19

I think that's how most women do react pete - certainly most younger women and girls as when confronted with inappropriate behaviour / talk they don't know what to do and society conditions us to "laugh it off" and not "over-react" or "take it personally" as if we do we are being prudes and have no sense of humour.

IME it's often only women who are a bit older who are able to show their genuine reaction (upset / anger) as they have a bit more life experience under their belt.

Some younger women and girls are able to do it too and that's really great.

Joining in with a man telling you vile sexual fantasies after a few dates when you find what he is saying repulsive and upsetting is going to encourage him, obviously.

I think the OP did fine. It is OK to be upset and show upset when something is upsetting. Maybe if more women felt able to show the anger/upset they feel at this type of behaviour, some men might begin to understand that it's not on.

VerySmallSqueak · 25/08/2013 12:31

That's horrible OP and you reacted in a way many of us would.

It's so hard when you are caught off your guard.

You succeeded here.You spotted a tosser and fucked him off.

TheCrackFox · 25/08/2013 12:46

He sounds utterly vile.

But well done, you spotted the massive red flags and got yourself away from him.

KellyHopter · 25/08/2013 13:22

Glad others think I didn't overreact.

There was no way I was going to try and out-shock him, I am not going to go against my own ideas of whats appropriate just because he was being vulgar, that's him not me.
Also it'd be a bit like showing my boobs to a flasher and thinking 'yeah, that'll teach him!"

I don't care that he saw I was upset, I don't care if he thinks he's 'won'. I just don't care. Therefore I win! Grin

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VerySmallSqueak · 25/08/2013 13:34

You do. Kelly. You win. Hands down.

He'll always be a loser.

KellyHopter · 25/08/2013 16:23

He just called on a withheld number and I'm quite pleased with how I handled it!

Hello?
Hi, it's me. Are we feeling better today? (Stupid sniggery voice)
Yes, I'm perfectly fine thanks
Oh, it's just that...
Actually - now that you've called I may as well say that I don't want to carry on seeing you so if you could just delete my number that'd be great.
Ah...right. Look, I was messing with you that's all, you know what I'm like...
No, it's not that, I just don't find you attractive. Grin
Right, well that was a waste of my...
Great, all the best.

It's petty I know but didn't manage much in the way of pithiness last night so very cathartic!

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GetStuffezd · 25/08/2013 17:08

EXCELLENT!
Well done.
What a DICK!

TheCrackFox · 25/08/2013 17:19

Brilliant!!!

NiceTabard · 25/08/2013 17:22

LOLLed then Grin

Well done. he deserved it.

JamesAndTheGiantBanana · 25/08/2013 17:23

Love it! Good on you. Smile

GetStuffezd · 25/08/2013 17:24

Also, I've just clicked on your profile (nosey!) and I'm sure you're 1000x more attractive than this attention seeking fool.

WayHarshTai · 25/08/2013 17:29

Hah, you abolutely rock. Well done.

Beamur · 25/08/2013 17:31

Marvellous exit! Well done you all ways round.

Lottiedoubtie · 25/08/2013 17:40

Fantastic- well done!