I am not an MRA, in response to curlew's question.
Re Neitzche, the quote was in response to something Buffy said, not violence. I screwed up my reply to here. Sorry about how it read, my bad editing.
Kickass, re measuring violence by victim's gender. My gut feeling is that men would commit more DV. Men kick off more full stop, in my RL experience. I am NOT denying male on female violence, and not belittling it. My question is more one of semantics, so perhaps it isn't important in the grand scheme, but it is with the link you make. Men commit more DV, these men must hate women, therefore men hate women. What if the same group of men are also the ones scrapping in pubs and clubs and football matches and taxi ranks and umpteen other places. What if these same men also kick shit out of other men on a regular basis? Then they are not misogynists, they are misanthropes - they hate everyone. Like I say, semantics, but what if it's true? It doesn't mean that it is acceptable. It means that your distinction that (a group of) men hate women and women alone. And I think that that is an important distinction, because I think feminism would be different if it recognised that fact.
Lastly, my comment about Jordan et al covering up. You did see that it was only part of an approach, didn't you? Good. So we have two 'sides' here - those that buy the pictures, and those that pose. Those that buy do so because they can, and because, as men, they are not being harmed directly. Selfish bastards, but it is a fact.
Those that pose are the ones being harmed. So, why have they not responded to the arguments that their actions are harmful to women as a group? From a point of self-preservation, and for the good of their fellow women, why have they not responded to 40 years of evidence and debate? Why, in fact, despite all the evidence you can present as feminists on here, does this kind of sexual presentation/objectification appear to be increasing? As a crude comparison, the level of smoking has decreased since evidence of damage to health has grown, despite massive pressure from extremely rich and powerful tobacco companies (Talking UK here). Why despite 40 years of feminist evidence, have similar inroads not been made on page 3, Heat, Nuts, Loaded etc., with those who stand to gain the most by boycotting?