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Fucking hell, Nigella picture, WTF? [includes links to upsetting images]

522 replies

BoffinMum · 15/06/2013 22:51

twitter.com/suttonnick/status/346017840106704898/photo/1

Tomorrow's Sunday People cover. Where do we even start with this?

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fubbsy · 17/06/2013 13:52

Yes I'm sure Greenslade/The Guardian were seeking controversy. Seems like they got their wish, as we are discussing it here and presumably generating traffic to their web site.

MadBusLady · 17/06/2013 13:52

I have certainly commented on RG's column before, probably to get arsey with him about something. Many of the columns seem to be hit and miss with their comment facility, sometimes with an explanation (eg potential for libel), sometimes not. We have been told before that it's a matter of the number of moderators available to cover the site.

AnyFucker · 17/06/2013 13:53

CS's "explanation" of what happened has made it look worse not better

Snazzywaitingforsummer · 17/06/2013 13:58

Yes, he seems oblivious to the fact that his statement makes him look, if possible, even more of a cock.

Snazzywaitingforsummer · 17/06/2013 14:00

If the Guardian sought controversy in publishing the Greenslade column as it stands, then yes, we are sending traffic, but it also helps to let them know how distasteful it is. That's one reason to email and not just ignore. I expect better from them and would like them to know that.

StealthPolarBear · 17/06/2013 14:01

Assuming he's found guilty of...what would it be? assault? what's likely to happen?

Snazzywaitingforsummer · 17/06/2013 14:03

FGS I've just gone back to the Greenslade story and it's even worse now. They've edited it to include reference to Saatchi's appalling statement. But they've edited

It is, of course, deeply embarrassing for her and, even more so, for her husband.

to now read

It is, of course, deeply embarrassing for them both.

So now apparently it's equally embarrassing for the throttler abuser and the victim throttlee? I despair.

StillSeekingSpike · 17/06/2013 14:04

'An intense debate'??? 'I held her neck repeatedly ... to emphasise my point'???? 'A play ful tiff'???
Better if he shut the fuck up, methinks Angry

OutragedFromLeeds · 17/06/2013 14:04

Nothing I would imagine Stealth, abusers who aren't powerful billionaires get a £200 fine and community service so I doubt much will happen to him.

OutragedFromLeeds · 17/06/2013 14:05

Nothing I would imagine Stealth, abusers who aren't powerful billionaires get a £200 fine and community service so I doubt much will happen to him.

Snazzywaitingforsummer · 17/06/2013 14:05

They've taken out the sentence about Nigella knowing all about feeding frenzies. But the rest stands. Poor.

StealthPolarBear · 17/06/2013 14:06

A £200 fine. Oh that'll learn him.

SauceForTheGander · 17/06/2013 14:08

I've put his statement through my bullshit translator and it actually means "I'm am abusive cunt"

AitchTwoOhOneTwo · 17/06/2013 14:08

jesus wept. am so shocked.

mummy2benji · 17/06/2013 14:10

?There was no grip, it was a playful tiff."

"Nigella?s tears were because we both hate arguing"

Which was it then, Charles, a playful tiff or an argument? Because it isn't a 'playful tiff' if she is in tears because she 'hates arguing', and if it was an argument then he couldn't have grabbed her round the neck in a 'playful tiff'. I think he shot himself in the foot with that comment attempting to justify his actions. He has as good as said that he grabbed her round the neck during an argument. Which means it was in frustration / anger.

I disagree with some of the posters who think it was right for onlookers not to intervene. I think you can (semi) justify not intervening due to indecision and onlookers thinking "what the heck should I do?" But I think it is wrong to take the stance that "oh this is clearly DV so if I intervene now it won't stop him doing something worse at home". No it won't but that's not the point!!! Not intervening is telling him that the public think it's okay, or don't care enough to intervene, and that he can get away with it. Why should he stop hurting her at home (rhetorical Q - I'm not saying that he is, I sincerely hope he isn't) if people essentially tell him it's okay to do it in public?!

FrequentFlyerRandomDent · 17/06/2013 14:27

He is going to get away with it, isn't he?

So sad.

AnyFucker · 17/06/2013 14:28

Most of them do, FF Sad

fubbsy · 17/06/2013 14:30

Yes it seems like he will get away with it Angry

I only hope the incident will be the catalyst for Nigella to LTB.

duchesse · 17/06/2013 14:31

Nigella, if you're reading- this is NOT right. LTB!!

AnyFucker · 17/06/2013 14:37

I think Nigella will be reading this, and all the other online commentary on her relationship.

Unless darling Charles has removed her internet access (not out of the realms of possibility)

StealthPolarBear · 17/06/2013 14:38

He's maybe just suggested she doesn't go online for a few days. For her own good of course. Like leaving their home.

CaptChaos · 17/06/2013 14:39

I do hope that she is reading this and other commentary (with the exception of the abuse apologist in the Guardian) and can see that there is hope, a way out and that the majority of the public will be supportive.

Have emailed the Guardian, not too sure how coherent I was though. This has been very triggering for me and, it seems, many many others.

MadBusLady · 17/06/2013 14:41

UMNetty hugs to Nigella if she is.

AnyFucker · 17/06/2013 14:42

Indeed, SPB. Just a "suggestion" mind, like the way he held her neck to make "suggestions" during their "playful tiff"

AitchTwoOhOneTwo · 17/06/2013 14:47

and here is what nick griffin had to say