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Female privilege

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lose24lb · 02/06/2013 05:30

There is a lot of talk of male privilege but not female privilege? Can we discuss things from the other point of view?

As a white female in a developed country, my privileges are:

  1. If I am a child and I go missing, the media is far more likely to give my case more attention than if I were a boy. And if I'm pretty with blonde hair then all the better, I can guarantee the entire country will know I'm missing and be out looking for me.
  1. From an early age the opposite sex will be instructed never to hit me but I will be given the same instructions. And should I strike males I can expect not to be hit back and any social penalties that occur from my actions will actually fall on the male.
  1. If I'm not smart and unable to get a well paying job, all I have to do is marry a wealthy man.
  1. Most homeless are men, yet most homeless shelters are created with my gender in mind. Which means if I go homeless I am more likely to get a bed in a shelter than if I were male.
  1. If I commit a crime I am more likely to get more leniency than a man in the exact same circumstances. People will want to try and understand what made a pretty woman like me do such a thing and look for reasons. Unless I go on a mass murder spree I don't really have to worry about going to prison.
  1. If I am attacked, passers-by are far more likely to intervene to protect me than if I were male.
  1. As a female I am less likely to be physically attacked in the first place or challenged to a fight.
  1. Despite killing almost as many people, prostate cancer gets only a fraction of the funding than breast cancer does. It benefits me if my health issues are given priority over men's health issues even if the men's issues are almost as deadly.
  1. If a man masturbates it is seen as disgusting and perverse. If I masturbate then I am seen as pleasuring myself. Female masturbation doesn't carry the same stigma as male masturbation.
  1. If I am pretty and/or I can make myself cry I will be able to get away with anything and everything.

  2. If I am upset I am allowed to cry without being ridiculed. I don't have to be all macho and bottle my feelings up like boys and men have to do.

  3. Similar to #11, I am encouraged to seek help if I need it. Seeking help is not seen as a weakness for my gender. If I seek support I will get it and people won't laugh at me or ridicule me or tell me to "man up" or "take it like a man".

  4. I can wear almost anything I want without having my sexual orientation being questioned. If a man doesn't want people to think he is gay then his wardrobe will be extremely limited. But with the possible exception of dungarees I can wear anything I want.

  5. One word- chivarly. Because I am female I can expect little perks here and there. One seat left on a bus? It's mine! Expensive dinner bill? The guy can get his wallet out.

  6. If my husband lays a finger on me he will be labelled as a wife beater for the rest of his life, be beaten up by other men and spend time in prison. But if I hit my husband people will say "you go girl!" and say he must have deserved it. I can hit my husband and he won't dare hit me back out of fear of what I just pointed out.

  7. Violence against women is the worst crime on earth. Violence against men is hilarious, especially if it involved injury to the titter penis/balls.

  8. On today's TV programmes my gender is portrayed as being smart, strong and independent. The male characters in today's soaps, comedy's, cartoons etc are shown as complete idiots, deadbeat useless fathers or criminals.

  9. I can work with children without being worried about people thinking horrible things or making horrible allegations.

  10. If I live in the USA and there is a military draft, I won't be forced against my will to sign up to the army and go fight in battle.

OP posts:
Mugofteaforme · 02/06/2013 10:32

Well there must be something wrong with the support men get what with male suicides being disproportionately high.

Irrespective of male/female privilege something is very wrong...

ImTooHecsyForYourParty · 02/06/2013 10:36

You would probably have experienced some form of sexual harrassment though, and very possibly a sexual assault. Many, many women have. From being groped in a pub to being raped. I don't know many women who have never in their life experienced some sort of unwanted, unasked for and unwelcome sexual attention that made them feel threatened and fearful.

You're saying that if you were female, then men probably wouldn't beat you up (although you'd be at higher risk of assault within a relationship as a woman than as a man). But because you are male, men have beaten you up?
And you use that to say that women are privileged?

MrsDeVere · 02/06/2013 10:37

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Mugofteaforme · 02/06/2013 10:47

"There are far more beds for homeless men than women."

I believe that potentially homeless Women are identified and supported before they get to that stage.

by the crisis organisation statistics about 85% are male.

www.crisis.org.uk/data/files/publications/HiddenTruthAboutHomelessness_web.pdf

A document well worth reading.

MrsDeVere · 02/06/2013 10:59

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Mugofteaforme · 02/06/2013 11:12

"Two people, one being male, one being female, both being in the same position should be given equal access to accommodation.
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Thank you MrsDeVere I agree completely. Sad that with so much empty property and lack of council housing stock, but wouldn't want to upset the housing bubble would we -Sorry I digress.

Mugofteaforme · 02/06/2013 11:14

I think we can safely say that Male Privilege doesn't exist in this context.

MrsDeVere · 02/06/2013 11:40

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OliviaMMumsnet · 02/06/2013 12:12

Hello
We will shortly be deleting this thread
Thanks
MNHQ

Mugofteaforme · 02/06/2013 12:18

Why Olivia? Seems to me a perfectly valid discussion.

OliviaMMumsnet · 02/06/2013 12:22

@Mugofteaforme

Why Olivia? Seems to me a perfectly valid discussion.

We have reason to suspect the OP is not all they seem
But if you're happy to continue we would ask you to remind you all of our guidelines

Thanks

kim147 · 02/06/2013 12:24

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Mugofteaforme · 02/06/2013 12:24

I'm happy, but will throw it open to others. What does everyone think?

kim147 · 02/06/2013 12:25

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Mugofteaforme · 02/06/2013 12:37

I'd say that both sexes have their own particular privileges. In my opinion we're fooling each other if we discount either.

Bunnylion · 02/06/2013 13:04

MNHQ - Delete.

OP starts off with "As a white female in a developed country, my privileges are:"

I think they are not being 100% honest on their description and are only here to spout their anti-feminist agenda.

Mitchy1nge · 02/06/2013 13:09

why do people engage with these fucking losers?

Blackduck · 02/06/2013 13:09

Please delegate. This op is not about opening up debate at all.

Blackduck · 02/06/2013 13:09

Delete! Blinking autocorrect!

grimbletart · 02/06/2013 13:12

As Bunnylion said:

09.33.30 - OP makes it clear he is male.

In his OP he does not make it clear he is using the subjunctive i.e "if he were a female".

What is it about Sundays that brings out the MRAs?

YoniMatopoeia · 02/06/2013 13:16

To op. Is that you Mike?

BasilBabyEater · 02/06/2013 13:43

I posted this on their other thread. It's a reminder of the sort of men they are.

manboobz.com/2013/05/31/the-facebookfeminist-plot-to-destroy-free-speech-male-liberty-and-10-13-of-a-voice-for-mens-traffic/

Mitchy1nge · 02/06/2013 13:53

argh exactly

the world is so so so full of so many bright, interesting and funny people why the fuck would anyone waste even a tiny bit of their life talking to such freaks?

FaithLehane · 02/06/2013 14:05

OP why do you hate women?

I'm a Feminist, I've been abused, beaten up and raped all by men. But I don't hate men. I have some wonderful men in my life, I know not all men are like that.

AnnieLobeseder · 02/06/2013 14:37

I do absolutely agree with the OP about men being told that they shouldn't cry, that they should always be strong. I absolutely believe this is damaging to men's mental health, and may lead to them becoming violent against the women and children in their lives as they are denied healthy outlets for their emotions as being "unmanly".

The patriarchy is not universally beneficial to every man all the time. Men often fall victim to it too. This is something most feminists understand well. But MRAs use any bad thing that ever happened to men as "evidence" that the patriarchy only exists in feminists' imaginations.

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