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So now Mumsnet deletes posts on the grounds that they're offensive to people with religious beliefs and MRA's

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FastidiaBlueberry · 17/02/2013 12:55

On the circumcision thread a post of mine was deleted and when I asked mumsnet why, this was the response:

"While it is true that posts we don't tend to delete posts on the grounds of being in poor taste because it would be really hard to draw the line; we do as in this case remove posts that, in our judgement, are simply beyond the pale.

Your post was reported to us and tbh we felt that * (an offensive acronym for MRA's) was beyond the pale tbh, especially when added to the rest of your post which was also incredibly offensive to anyone with religious beliefs."

So basically, we are not allowed to post things which offend people's religious beliefs in conjunction with offending MRA's.

Just thought I'd let you all know. I'm not even annoyed about this, after last week's targeting I think it's obvious that MN really don't want radical feminism represented here.

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SigmundFraude · 17/02/2013 23:39

I said whatever you want to call me, Bubbles. Calm yourself down.

I have said it before, I'll say it again: I am a WOMAN. W.O.M.A.N. This is FWRchat. It's chat, it doesn't always have to follow the narrative you decide to give it, or do you think you should have the final say in all things?.

'I would hope that feminists call the shots in FWR'

I would hope that MNHQ does.

Being 'exposed as talking shite' by you has absolutely no meaning in the wider world. That's your opinion, and given your exceedingly narrow mindset it would have absolutely no value in RL. M'dear.

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scottishmummy · 17/02/2013 23:42

What are you seeking op?mnhqbunreseverrdly kiss your arse, agree your posts ok?
You got deleted it happens
Most folk get over it without threads about threads

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FastidiaBlueberry · 17/02/2013 23:44

My comment which MNHQ told me was " incredibly offensive to anyone with religious beliefs" was an insulting comment about patriarchs.

I don't want to repeat the comment because it might be taken to be provocative and get deleted again. Grin But it was along the lines of it being a rum do to invent a god who required bits of people's bodies to be cut off. And a not very complimentary comment about the men who first hit upon the bright idea of doing so. I've just realised that it didn't actually mention any religion, as no-one knows who first thought it might be a good idea to cut bits of genitals off, and they also don't know if it was for a specifically religious reason, so my comment wasn't really aimed at any particular religion, just at patriarchs and patriarchal religion in general.

That's now apparently unacceptable. Biscuit

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LRDtheFeministDragon · 17/02/2013 23:44

Oh dear, did you think only men could be MRAs, sig?

How sad to be so ignorant. Sad

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BubblesOfBliss · 17/02/2013 23:45

SigmundFraude I have said it before, I'll say it again: I am a WOMAN. W.O.M.A.N.

Thank f*ck for that. Though - I do wonder what's going on in your psyche... Confused

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FastidiaBlueberry · 17/02/2013 23:45

That was to LRD by the way, as she asked.

Ah hallo Scottishmummy, how nice to see you.



Loving your new look.

Smile

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SigmundFraude · 17/02/2013 23:50

LRD. Read this very slowly. I was responding to Bubbles asking what I am doing in feminism/WOMEN's rights chat. I said I was a woman, in response to that.

I really do hope you read that slowly, I would hate for you to prove my assertions right yet again.

Smile.

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scottishmummy · 17/02/2013 23:51

Look stop being such a whine,you got deleted.it happens
Sometimes you'll agree, other times not.keeping it going,and lil feetie stamping.lame

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FastidiaBlueberry · 17/02/2013 23:52

Are those your rude, personal attacky without actually straying outside of MN guidelines assertions SF?

You are good at that aren't you.

Hmm

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FastidiaBlueberry · 17/02/2013 23:52

Thanks for your advice Scottishmummy, you know I always value it.

Smile

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runningforthebusinheels · 17/02/2013 23:54

Mitchy - I looked at your link - manwomanmyth are mentioned there. They are on Youtube, with such choice quotes as 'high value men are having to work harder in the workplace due to the influx of women' and 'how many women are late or absent from work due to women's troubles?'

And what visual clip does he use as a backdrop to his claims?

That's right - it's 'The Brittas Empire' - yes, remember it? That "hilarious" comedy where the male manager is a complete incompetent dick. You couldn't make it up.

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BubblesOfBliss · 17/02/2013 23:55

scottishmummy "Look stop being such a whine,you got deleted.it happens. Sometimes you'll agree, other times not.keeping it going,and lil feetie stamping.lame"

I think the picture is bigger than that though isn't it? If you feel that an antifeminist bias is starting to take hold in MNHQ- and besides the OP isn't to blame if other people keep the thread going.

And tut tut regarding the use of 'lame'

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scottishmummy · 17/02/2013 23:56

What you looking for here?pals to sagely agree yes you've been wrongly deleted
Mnhq to do a swift apology, and unreservedly reinstate your posts
This is a thread about a thread,nothing much else. It's only as big as yiu make it

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SigmundFraude · 17/02/2013 23:56

'You are good at that aren't you.'

Monkey see, monkey do, as they say.

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FloraFox · 17/02/2013 23:57

Sigmund which of your assertions have been proved right? That either you or Bubbles are not telepathic? Biscuit

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LRDtheFeministDragon · 17/02/2013 23:58

sig - oh dear. If you read my post again, you may understand it and provide a relevant reply.

Take as long as you like, and google for the tricky words.

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FastidiaBlueberry · 17/02/2013 23:59

PMSL at that link Mitchy, I loved this bit:

"A number of other Mens rights sits are blocked due to being classed as pornography. This list is relatively small in number and thus could possibly constitute accidental blocking rather than a deliberate attempt to deny men their human rights and free speech."

So wanking over porn is now a male human right and any attempt to block that is an attack on their basic human rights. It's like Nazi Germany, I tell you.

Oh....kay.

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BubblesOfBliss · 18/02/2013 00:00

"What you looking for here?"

I am not the OP, but I think its important to combat a potential antifeminist bias in the moderating of a feminism and women's rights forum.

"This is a thread about a thread"

What's wrong with that?

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SigmundFraude · 18/02/2013 00:03

My God, am I in the twilight zone? Don't address me any more LRD, ever, please. And I will do you the same courtesy.

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LRDtheFeministDragon · 18/02/2013 00:04

Sorry, I doubt I'll remember as I try to blank out your posts after a few moments, but how's about you do the normal thing the rest of us do and don't reply unless you fancy it, ok?

Unless you have a gun to your head and are being forced to pretend to an interest in feminism you don't really have, obviously.

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scottishmummy · 18/02/2013 00:05

We've been here before on mn,this topic isn't a feminist forum.at all
It's a topic about feminism on mn site.this topic isn't moderated differently
Last time mnhq clarified this,it caused lots of hoo haa

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FastidiaBlueberry · 18/02/2013 00:05

May I just thank LRD and SF for their brilliant artistic endeavor.

It's like watching an experimental "happening" at the ICA.

Fucking awesome.

Grin

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LRDtheFeministDragon · 18/02/2013 00:06

I'm here all week. The chips are very good.

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BubblesOfBliss · 18/02/2013 00:12

"We've been here before on mn,this topic isn't a feminist forum.at all. It's a topic about feminism on mn site"

Well that's about as clear as mud Confused

this topic isn't moderated differently

Perhaps there's an antifeminist bias throughout MN (reflecting the world outside MN) and it only becomes problematic in the FWR section where it is specifically targeted by antifeminist trolls?

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scottishmummy · 18/02/2013 00:12

This topic isn't a feminism or women's right forum,and it won't get different moderation from mnhq
Hoping or expecting mnhq treat this topic as a feminist forum is setting off on wrong premise
There was a rad fem topic set up on mnhq after last hoo haa,don't know how that went

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