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So now Mumsnet deletes posts on the grounds that they're offensive to people with religious beliefs and MRA's

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FastidiaBlueberry · 17/02/2013 12:55

On the circumcision thread a post of mine was deleted and when I asked mumsnet why, this was the response:

"While it is true that posts we don't tend to delete posts on the grounds of being in poor taste because it would be really hard to draw the line; we do as in this case remove posts that, in our judgement, are simply beyond the pale.

Your post was reported to us and tbh we felt that * (an offensive acronym for MRA's) was beyond the pale tbh, especially when added to the rest of your post which was also incredibly offensive to anyone with religious beliefs."

So basically, we are not allowed to post things which offend people's religious beliefs in conjunction with offending MRA's.

Just thought I'd let you all know. I'm not even annoyed about this, after last week's targeting I think it's obvious that MN really don't want radical feminism represented here.

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OliviaMumsnet · 17/02/2013 13:04

Hi there
Thanks for posting this straight up on the boards and not giving us an opportunity to resolve this in the email you sent us. Smile

To clarify, we deleted your post because we feel the use of the word "rapey" is beyond the pale.
With regards to not offending anyone with religious beliefs etc our talk guidelines are here
HTH

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OliviaMumsnet · 17/02/2013 13:43

@FloatyBeatie

'Rapey' has always struck me as an inappropriately frivolous play on a desperately serious word.

This here.
Thanks.

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OliviaMumsnet · 17/02/2013 14:12

@FastidiaBlueberry

No waferthinmint, that's not what I'm doing.

I'm trying to establish what language is allowed on MN and what isn't.

This is literally the first time today, that I've been told we're not allowed to use that term.

If I'd known that, I wouldn't have used it.

I actually try to follow MN guidelines when I post, believe it or not.

But I also think that if that term isn't allowed to be used, then other terms ought not to be as well.

The cry rape one being the obvious one for me. It buys into every rape myth going.

Our policy is to keep intervention to a minimum and let the conversation flow.
But when a post is reported (and we actively encourage ALL our posters to report anything they think we should look at) we take things on a case-by-case basis.

Hope this clears things up.

MNHQ

HelenMumsnet · 17/02/2013 20:47

@BubblesOfBliss

So how about other extremist groups like the EDL? Would a post get deleted for naming them as the violent thugs they are. As a test here - The EDL are violent, racist thugs. Is this going to be deleted...

Or perhaps it is the changing of 'rape-culture-reinforcement-suggesting-a-vested-interest-that-looks-personal-and-a-bit-frightening' to 'rapey' that is the problem.

So perhaps if I say the EDL are 'violentish' that will be the real step too far..

I am unable to get where MNs line is here. MRAs are an extremist group FFS and their members troll around on MN all the time. Doesn't that concern HQ a bit?

Evening. And yes, of course, anyone trolling on MN concerns us - more than a bit.

But we think we're getting slightly off the point here.

We have no problem with robust criticism of MRAs but Fastidia's post actually read:

"An MRA is a Men's Rights Activist for those who asked. Although I prefer to think of them as Misogynist Rapey Arseholes."

We thought the use of "rapey" is this context was beyond the pale. Quite apart from the inference that they are all rapists (which, whatever we may think of them, is unlikely to be true), we read it as a phrase that trivialises rape.

We appreciate that some may disagree. But we made the decision in good faith and are happy to be transparent about our reasons.

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