So in the wake of a massive public spotlight on rape, the priority apparently is to protect the reputations of the tiny % of men falsely accused of rape

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FFS FFS FFS

Is it very cynical of me to think that this new demand to enable anonymity for men accused of rape (most of whom are guilty, but get off anyway) is a psychological need to re-establish what is most important to these woman-haters?

Stop talking about the mountain of rape victims who never get justice and FGS start talking about the anthill of men who get falsely accused.

Enough of Steubenville, Delhi, Frances Andrade, Jimmy Savile's victims, the 1 in 4 women who are raped or sexually assaulted.

Let's get back to talking about the really important issues - the miniscule number of men who will be falsely accused of rape or who will be the victim of mistaken identity. Fools, don't you know they're more important than all those rape vicitms? That that's a much bigger issue? So what 25% of women are subjected to rape or sexual assault? So what if 85-90% of rape victims don't report? So what that of those who do, only 6% get a guilty verdict even though only between 2-6% are lying or mistaken? Let's get some perspective on this - men matter more than women, stop imagining they don't.

Fuming but off to bed.

All those rapists who falsely claim to be falsely accused and walk scott free such as Kirk Reid who assaulted 70+ other women before being caught, Jon Worboys drove a black cab ideal front of a serial rapist, Ian Huntley. There is no consequence for them for lying about being a rapist. They get jailed for the rape not the perjury. (In the case of Huntley he was never once tried for rape or sex with under age girls despite many allegations) I suppose he was falsely accused too.

Ah, I see the "give em enough rope and they will hang themselves" theory has worked beautifully!

MNHQ as joinlogin is posting such rubbish which runs contrary to the stated aims of We Believe You, please can you encourage him in some clever technical way to not darken our doors again?

MN can have whatever guidelines it likes - one of them is that we don't tolerate rape myths. If you don't like it go somewhere where misogyny is tolerated.

How you you know they're innocent acquittal is "not proven" it's not he didn't do it.

We Believe You

I believe you

No, because it isn't true. It appears on the MN rape myth page here: www.mumsnet.com/campaigns/we-believe-you-campaign-rape-myths-busted with citations.

Quoted:

MYTH: Women often lie about rape, and police officers and jurors should bear this in mind
REALITY: There is no research evidence that false allegations are more common than for many other crimes.
Home Office research indicates that between 3-8% of initial allegations are false, but that the lower figure is likely to be most accurate.(6)
Far from being widespread, malicious accusations are rare. A much greater problem in the criminal justice system is the under-reporting of rape - the government estimates that 89% of rapes are never reported to the police at all.(7)
In addition, only 5.3% of rapes reported to the police end in a conviction for rape - the lowest rate of any country in Europe, except for Ireland.(8)

Doen't fix it the rapists still out there raping the little p s need to put their little P s away.

Got it JoinLogin

The real concern is that people like JoinLogin can sit on juries.

And it is not biased to support women when not being believed is one of the primary factors for not reporting a rape. Statistically, if a woman says she was raped she is telling the truth. Men lie too you know, it's not as if they get nothing out of denying being a rapist is it

Join, sadly for you there has been quite a lot of research done on prejudices about rape. The concept of 'rape myths' is established and defined based on a considerable amount of evidence. You don't get to turn up out of the blue and say, 'ooh, I've never heard of it so it must be rubbish' - you'll have to work a lot harder than that.

You might also want to take a look at the Talk guidelines. They make it clear that sexist posts can be deleted, just as racist, disablist and homophobic posts can be deleted. So do be careful out there.

Spouting rubbish!

Educate yourself on how RARE false accusations are.

Once again, it's MN's site. They can have whatever rules they like. If you don't like their ethos and guidelines, feel free to go elsewhere where vile views like yours are more welcome.

I see you have reversed your username. Were you banned?

One only has to watch the behaviour of men at football matches those on the pitch and those watching it to see this a gender out of control, feral. Note how the blame always rests with someone else the other side's supporters, the police, the weather, how long they had to queue to get in to the ground, they're team lost, they're team won blah de blah. Do they morph back into civilised human beings after this. Nope they're out they're raping women, children and other men and guess what it's never they're fault. Feral. The rapists and their apologists have attempted to create a smokescreen about rape the myth of the false accusation. In reality it is the rapist falsely claiming to be falsely accused.

Incidentally, men are raped too. What's your view on that JL/LJ?

It's quite heartening to see how the I Believe You campaign really upsets the goady fuckers.

joinlogin if you feel that the campaign page is "meaningless and useless" and if nobody is agreeing with you then why, exactly, are you still here?

I'm off out now to see friends and family. Because I'm on good terms with them and we mutually enjoy each others company....Is there perhaps a reason why you have a lot of time to spend on your own on this site?

I would hate to work with someone who didn't understand a concept, despite having it explained to them several times. Just sayin'.