Who is part of the patriarchy?

[EatsBrainsAndLeaves]

When we use the term patriarchy, do you think that the men you know are part of the patriarchy? And if no, then who is part of the patriarchy?

Again, you are making statements rather than discussing!

What I would like to know is that if ALL men are the enemy, then what can be done?

So its just the reinforcing that we all do then. OK I will leave it there.

Or, what mini said.

Shirty. Yep, all men are the enemy. Trust none of them. Not even your own children.

If the oppression of women is rooted in sex class difference it sets up a sex class binary which can never be overcome unless we all metamorphosise into
a third sex class where there are no binary differences.

I disagree with your definition/explanation of "the patriarchy".

I think LRD and Kritiq wrote very well earlier in the thread.

I agree with Cuervo that you are just making statements about "how things are" (which many people, including feminists, might disagree with) and making no attempt to engage in discussion.

I'm just wondering if I being a man, and thus 'the enemy' , should give my dd up for adoption to spare her my oppressive indoctrination ?

Shirty what we need to do is get rid of patriarchy. That is the only solution

And if you think men arent part of the patriarchy, who is part of it?

How do you want to see that achieved?

I'm not sure if the second question is posed to me or not, but I never said that men aren't part of the patriarchy.

Eats, no one has said that men aren't part iof the patriarchy. We have said that, because its a social construct, we all are.

No we are not all part of the patriarchy. How do you think women are part of the patriarchy? I am genuinely puzzled that you think that

The patriarchy is a system whereby men as a class oppress women as a class. It is thus very very clear that all men are part of the patriarchy and all women are oppressed by the patriarchy.

Can you please answer my question about how you propose the patriarchy is smashed please?

Everyone is part of the patriarchy, willingly or not.

Oh.

This isn't helpful Eats, just re-posting the same thing over and over again.

No it isn't.

HTH

And I'm genuinely puzzled as to how you can beligerently ignore all attempts to explain it to you.

Society is a patriarchy.
We all live in it.
Not everyone strives to uphold it, not even all men.
Not all men benefit from it.
Not all women are upset about it.
Men are not the enemy.
Not all men are potential rapists.

Is there any point in this?

So blame who is part of the patriarchy?

It is very clear that you don't want a discussion. You are right and even longer serving, better read feminist bloggers and writers are wrong. Your threads are goading at best, trolling at worst. Posting a statement c+pd from radfem 4 dummies does not. Constitute an argument.

How should the patriarchy be smashed please?