Women subsumed into their children

[Xenia]

We certainly must guard against woman as only mother and nothing else

www.ft.com/cms/s/2/0bf95f3c-f234-11e1-bba3-00144feabdc0.html#axzz25Ieiea9E

to suggest that someone eats cheap beans isn't necessarily an insult, unless you judge others (or yourself) by wealth.

but why so partisan?

when I'm working I'm WOHM
when I was with my DC I was SAHM

I don't consider myself one or the other specifically. I had a family, my life adapted. No need to slag one or the other off.

autumn,agree with post 20.22pm.

no that's fine brass, just remember not to enjoy the SAHM bit too much, because you want to avoid gender stereotypes at all costs ;)

sm,Im confused.
do you have a beef with housewives or not.
Im guessing yes from what you have said.
And therefore are you against them personally,or against what they do/dont do.

I think X is against housewives personally as she says she abhors housewives.

gender stereotypes hmmm

I don't think I like or fit the 50s housewife model but I'm more than happy with whatever millenium housewife model I was. Similarly DH went out to his gender stereotype job but then came back and helped with the kids and house.

gender schmender

youre guessing wrong if youre guessing beef
why is my pov necessarily a beef,but anyone else is subjective pov?
if you want to get down to it, we all have beefs if you want to be so reductive or simplistic. thats the point innit

is a beef when someone disagrees with you,or you dont like their opinion
if someone concurs do you call that a beef too
it si all chewin the fat though

ok,leave out the beef word,as I would have to look it up in a dictionary to try and find its absolute correct meaning.

my last 2 sentences of 21.05pm still stand please.

i have no idea what or who X is
is it some childish guess who?
are you surreptitiously slagging someone off . Not nice

xenia is the one who said she abhors housewives

are you paraphrasing or did she say that
is that poster here
or are you discussing her in her absence

She said it.Are you going to insist that I find it because I will if you claim not to have seen it.It may not be on this particular thread.
And this is Xenia's thread so I am hardly saying it behind her back!

And back to you.post 22.09pm and 21.05pm again.

it would take me all night to list the various negative comments Xenia has made about dreaded shams over time. So many. So offensive. Wouldn't quite know where to begin with the copy and paste. Always amazed by how politely you guys accept her remarks.

"Should it be illegal for men to pay for prostitution"
Xenia post 9 Sept 2012 18.04pm
You may not be on that particular thread so you may not have seen Xenia's exact words which were as I posted exactly above.

all this to prove other people,have a beef?
recalling posts from other threads to prove how unreasonable someone else is
pot.kettle black

You are now just word playing.
Didnt realise you were just a word player.
So you abhor housewives too.
Didnt realise that.

non answers are answers.All the evidence is here for poeple to read.
You are also actually saying you are unreasonable.

you're recalling a 10day old different thread
to prove how reasonable you are.and how unreasonable the other person isn't
childish to traipse gripes from other threads to substantiate points here

Do you personally stand by the words you write on MN?
Do you personally stand by your words in RL?

And having to resort to name calling.

dont quote me erroneously to prove a point.ive never said that
i see youre not letting facts halt your argument
will you go search more stuff now to prove point or just make it up again

Finding it hard to read your posts sm but you seem pretty keen on having a full fridge

You have never said what?
When people dont answer posts,they are giving a sort of answer.
All evidence is here on this thread for all to read.

You are endlessly wordplaying.

I love the feminism section. Sisters standing united

!

do keep up million refresh your own posts
i never said i abhor houswifes.
you erroneously attributed that to me.to prove some point

I didnt erroneously attribute that to you.
I asked you,and you refused to answer several times.
Then I pointed out that Xenia said it.
Just as well that everything is written here for everyone to read.