So if you're daughter/son started waxing ..

[lastnerve]

and wearing lacy underwear (not men although maybe)

What would you say to them? would you say anything?

this is a thread bout' a thread :/ hides but I'm interested.

My mother did say to me as an 11 year old when I started she was surprised, she did say "don't you think its weird men find it sexy for women to look like children?' every now and again.
She warned me off cheap creams and used the safety angle, For various reasons she didn't really have the time and had bigger problems (grew up in a very f*d , dysfunctional family, disability etc) well I always got that sense.

I think I probably just rolled my eyes I can't remember,
Did you ever do this?: what did your mother say well I'm saying mother , did fathers ever talk about leg shaving etc.

I'm just interested on how you would approach that conversation without mortifying them.

MsCellophane
"My sons friends all shave their armpits now, not sure where that comes from..."

As boys become increasingly feminized you can expect them to adopt formerly 'women only' fashions and traits, e.g. wearing make up, waxing, shaving, fake tanning, adopting dieting fads, etc. Things that 30 years ago would generally have gotten a boy beaten, ridiculed and ostracized.

helxi

i think mens fashion becomes feminised periodicaly, in the 1700's it was all hankies and cuffes with elaborate bows, in the late 60's we had cravates and blue velvet trousers. and then the new romantics of the mid 80's did their thing.

Your description of the 1700s is applicable to the court of Louis XV. Hardly an indicator of what the masses were wearing. Gender and dress were clearly defined, a working-class women wearing a waistcoat and breeches in public would be a bizarre sight. See below for modern contrast.

Cravats are miltary in origin, they are not and never were feminine garb. Trousers are a traditionally male garment, regardless of the owner's bad taste. That women now wear trousers and 'trouser suits' demonstrates the feminization of formerly masculine fashion. This kind of clothing is highly unlikely to attract 'incorrect dress' comment, in fact in many settings it is the expected attire.

The presence of the 'gender bending' New Romantic subculture's presence in the 80's demonstrates my point about the increasingly widespread acceptability and progression into poorly-defined gender behaviour and dress; they'd never have existed (survived?) in the early 20th century.

Yes, trends in human social behaviour are non-linear, but they nevertheless exist. In this case constant pressure to break down the social differences between men and women, and the disposable income which allows this to occur, will result in more homogenized behaviour and traits, of which fashion is just one aspect.

INB4 'but men use to wear corsets!' :facepalm:

what do you mean blue velvet trousers are bad taste!

it's debatable whether 'femminised' is the right word and yes, trending fashions in the days of 'rob roy' were only for the wealthy. i still have the feeling there was something feminine, or dainty about those fashions.

i wore a kilt when i got married!

INB4? did men wear corsets?