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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Taking AN ADULT child with a disability to a brothel

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DowagersHump · 12/06/2012 10:26

They are talking about this on Women's Hour now. I wonder if parents with a daughter feel that she needs to be taken to a sex worker? Or is it only male children that 'need' sex?

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garlicfanjo · 12/06/2012 18:07

Thanks for asking, Eats, it's tough knowing I have absolutely no purpose or value in this world. If only I could have fulfilled every woman's destiny to be a human incubator, but I am cursed by deficiency.

EatsBrainsAndLeaves · 12/06/2012 19:01
Grin
EatsBrainsAndLeaves · 12/06/2012 19:03

Garlic - Sorry to hear that. I have 18 kids so my mental and physical health is excellent. I admit after hearing more about your woes I am reading much more into your Mn name

garlicfanjo · 12/06/2012 19:16

You made me laff so much the neighbours peered over the fence!

Grin
EatsBrainsAndLeaves · 12/06/2012 19:18

Garlic - What did you say? Just imagining you trying to explain about your garlic fanjo!

SauvignonBlanche · 12/06/2012 19:18

I'd hate to imagine what the previous thread title was! Hmm
'Adult child' is offensive enough for me.

EatsBrainsAndLeaves · 12/06/2012 19:20

It simply said child, which gave a whole different connotation. We don't really have a word for adult children, do we?

Hullygully · 12/06/2012 19:31

wot garlic said ^^

dangerousliaison · 12/06/2012 19:38

I had a debate day about people with disabilities using sex workers> I was the only person out of 75 students 5 lecturers and 8 particpants who had learning, physical or mental health problems, who did not feel it was appropriate nor acceptable. My view point was 1) no one has an entitlement to sex and many able disabled and non disabled people do not have ease of finding sexual partners.

  1. and so having a disability does not make somes need for sex any greater than anyonelses to an extend it is ok to exploit and abuse woman in such a way.

and 3) it was un equal debate as the need of men where outweighing the needs for woman as womans needs for sex did not feature anywhere within the debate it was focused on males with disabilities.

dangerousliaison · 12/06/2012 19:39

sorry didnt mean to have an able in the end of that first paragraph

dangerousliaison · 12/06/2012 19:40

I think adult child in the title refered to an adult of spring of a parent, rather than a description of an adult with a disability being likened to a child. I hope so anyway.

JuliaScurr · 12/06/2012 19:41

I nearly threw up when it was on

EatsBrainsAndLeaves · 12/06/2012 19:43

dangerous - When people are justifying this, ime it is always about disabled men's right to have sex with prostitutes.

dittany · 12/06/2012 19:46

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Hullygully · 12/06/2012 19:55
  1. Not all sex providers are prostitutes. I can see an argument for taking a disabled young adult of either sex to a physical sex therapist, for example.

From garlic's post.

No? Why not?

EatsBrainsAndLeaves · 12/06/2012 19:57

Someone being paid to provide sex is a prostitute, whatever you call it

garlicfanjo · 12/06/2012 20:16

Yup, fair enough. I gather that sex therapists whose therapy includes physical sex recognise that what they do is called prostitution. Not that I've spoken to a whole lot of 'em, mind you! I sort of wanted to differentiate because you get male sex therapists working with female clients, which prises the debate open to include women as clients without invoking the exploitation argument.

I'm not wedded to any point of view on this, except the feminist one(s). I find it interesting: is there a case for practical sex education? In what circumstances could it be beneficial, if any?

That's all :) I'm not bothered if nobody else is!

Hullygully · 12/06/2012 21:14

I'm interested too.

EatsBrainsAndLeaves · 12/06/2012 21:19

What do you mean by practical sex education? If you mean having sex - then no that isn't sex education.

Krumbum · 12/06/2012 21:23

Sex is not a right. Someone should want to have sex with you. If they don't they don't. Anyone who uses a prostitute is abusing women.
However I do think there is a lot if stigma around disabled people having a sexuality, this does make it more difficult for someone with a disability to have a sexual relationship. Tacking this by having more people with disabilities normalised in the media etc would be much more helpful than taking a child to a prostitute. And yeah apparently men need sex and women put up with it.

Hullygully · 12/06/2012 21:32

Isn't it possible that an adult male or female could decide to have physical contact (not necessarily full sex) from compassion and get paid for their work?

Disclaimer: This is a question, not an opinion.

DowagersHump · 12/06/2012 21:50

Just to be absolutely clear - the thread title was referring to a woman who was interviewed on woman's hour who took her adult son who has CP to a sex worker.

I did not mean to imply that a disabled adult is childlike in any way whatsoever and I'm horrified that anyone would read it that way. I was trying to find the easiest way for MNHQ to edit the title so it didn't suggest child abuse but then the caps I put in to make the amendments clear actually went into the title which make me look like a bonkers halfwit.

As you were Blush

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dangerousliaison · 12/06/2012 22:05

I understood what your title ment but really Boners halfwit most certainly will offend many people who are posting on this thread who have Lo with disabilities.

dangerousliaison · 12/06/2012 22:06

bonkers even not boners

DowagersHump · 12/06/2012 22:09

I knew I'd be picked up on that.

I have nothing else to say really. I probably killed this thread with a crap title before it even started and I've probably offended someone by saying that too.

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