Really? we think that "that organisation" are representative of fathers in general? really?

[NormaStanleyFletcher]

"They are already telling us that F4J (and by association every dad in the land) are bullying and intimidating them in this latest campaign, a stance that completely ignores the decades of intimidation that has been suffered by fathers at the hands of women?s organistions and which attempts to control the space around the campaign..."

Do they think we are as mad and misguided as them?

Intimidation by women's organisations?

From http://karenwoodall.wordpress.com/2012/03/18/on-the-tyranny-of-the-weak-a-mothers-day-musing/

Who is this handmaden person?

seaofyou, There's been lots of posts on MN where women have been in the same circumstances as me (basically, Ex turning up at door unwanted and uninvited) and I'm quite surprised at the apparent differences in what the police seem to do.

My first call was dealt with straight away by a response team, who then passed it to the specialist Domestic Abuse Unit. When I called the 2nd time, then were on his case pretty quickly. To be honest, I think he got the shock of his life that other people in the Real World actually agreed with me that he was not perfect.

I know that the police can and do deal with these situations really well. I don't know where you are (ie your jurisdiction) but I would always suggest that you ask for a review meeting with a DV co-ordinator, or an equivalent. People out there do give a damn and some of them can and do protect us.

I also have a sealed up letter-box but as you can probably tell, I am quite arsey and see that as a solution to a risk, not an admission of defeat. Onwards and upwards. Hope you are ok.

No one took it serious from the start from police. dV unit never even phoned me even though it was reported to them and SW would not phone even...maybe they thought I could cope with a mentally disordered person trying to kill us....but I know it is now that they did not believe me! I was so relieved when ex got lazy and started being spotted! I thought I was going mad as well no one believed me until then!

I remember 2009 taping my letterbox up with cello tape used the whole role!! Next morning charity bag came through the letterbox...I was gutted thought it was well secure ha!

The last police officer who saw the door with screwdriver dents, metal plate over letterbox bent inwards, letterbox hanging off took it seriously! Got door finger printed and came back to update me, that was really nice! Normally I would have pc looking at me as I was crazy, one even blamed me for not letting ds see his df! I had to inform pc in front of ds:( that df had sent solicitor letter saying he did not want to see ds...pc tutted and stormed off??!

It isn't worth asking for meeting as damage is done and no more attacks since CCTV and I was told by. Detective I have delusions...ummm where's my ICD10 letter then?

Arrhhh LineRunner you are in Scotland far better than England and Wales even your stalking laws are far better! Explains difference I guess. Their has been so many murders ESP in Wales where I am and before Xmas where ex is from mother and unborn baby murdered too:(

seaofyou, the police who dealt with me had clearly been trained really well, and I guess that was because previously other women, families, solicitors, community groups, maybe MPs etc, had made complaints or asked for reviews and these had been investigated or undertaken; and maybe we just have some very good senior police officers who drive such good teams.

I can see you have had a bucketful of the whole thing, but one day you might want to ask your MP or eqivalent to ask the Chief Constable or equivalent to have a look at procedures. Even just an email.

Someone must have done something like that where I live, before me, and I'm very grateful.

And in turn I'll always 'fight' for someone else.

Take care.

No, I'm in England.

OLKN is in Sotland, she said I think in her recent post(s).

I went to MP who wrote to Head of Police asking for action and CCTV! They said they had marker on my home and regular checks but I never saw no police vehicles. Even when I phoned 999 the day he was driving around streets and door forced with screwdriver the pc on phone said it was not an emergency even though I explained marker on property and attacks! So I said fine I got a baseball bat and will go and sort ex out myself and slammed phone down! Police arrived fast! Funny that?

Well OLKN is lucky then re stalking laws cause in Wales your ex can set up campsite in your front garden and it is legal!!! Ha!

seaofyou, I'm glad you went to your MP. Perhaps update him or her, and you will know that you have done your best to affect the policy where you live. Dial 999 if you are ever scared.

OLKN is in Scotland and is concerned about her grown-up son's situation regarding contact with his child.

Take care.

I could update the new one one now but nothing to report as police didn't do anything ha!

I will read the whole thread at some point thanks for that Linerunner
Sorry to hear your ds situation OLKN

Much sorrier about your situation, seaforyou, it's way worse than what my son is going through. No one is threatening us with firebombs.

If you really need to escape, I have a spare room. Can't promise the care your Ds needs, but can offer a short break. Some respite?

oh OLKN I am filling up reading this ...thank you from the bottom of my heart.

Do you know how the private messaging system works here? (There's an option to "message poster" on each post someone makes, sorry if that's insulting but I've seen plenty of people not know!)

If it all gets too much and you need some time away, send me a PM and we'll sort it out. I can usually help with transport costs, too. But be aware I'm not the tidiest of people , and I have a dog (very calm) and two cats (in case you or your DS is allergic). I live in the countryside but am not far from civilisation, and my offer is both genuine and heartfelt.

OLKN thank you so very very much you are a good person, salt of the earth. Ds and I are both allergic to dogs, but if things got bad hear again I would be happy to escape for weekend and stay in lodge/b&b (that is when the attacks happened) and stay near you to come round for or to have someone in RL and escape. So thank you I will PM you if crisis occurs again as don't think I could go through it again, it was terrifying.

Are you very allergic? The dog is only allowed in the kitchen and livingroom, nowhere near the bedrooms, and I could do extra cleaning/hoovering.

PM me anytime and I'll do what I can to help. It is awful that you and your ds have been suffering so badly and so long.

Anyway, must stop derailing the thread.

Shit that was meant to be PM OLKN damn! Sorry have asked MN to delete it as said RL name re SS/police/ex etc