misandry doesn't exist

[MitchierInge]

not in a sort of homologous (if that's the word?) way to misogyny anyway - society just isn't that evolved yet

I can't believe anyone could possibly try to defend SCUM. Inciting hatred/violence should be wrong regardless which way round the genders are.

Anyone remember the T-shirts that had the slogan "boys are stupid throw rocks at them" and a pic of a boy running away from thrown rocks?

www.comparestoreprices.co.uk/images/da/david-and-goliath-boys-are-stupid-t-shirt.jpg

Q1. Is this an example of misandry?

Q2. If it was a girl in place of a boy, would that be an example of misogyny?

Vitalstats have you actually read this thread?

What Scum was, was an exact transcription of all the stuff men have said about women throughout the ages.

And NO-ONE was horrified by it.

She took the things men had said about women and said them about men.

And everyone was horrified.

That was the point of it.

But you're not really interested in that are you?

You're here to pretend that misandry exists and is exactly the same as misogyny.

Don't you get bored with this?

I wonder if there's a facebook page called "boys are stupid" oh wait there is

www.facebook.com/pages/Boys-are-stupid/287186391999

There you go, go join and have a giggle.

Is it threatening to rape them Vital?

Do girls often throw rocks at boys and seriously injure them and traumatise them in real life?

D'you see the difference?

No, you don't, do you MRA.

Q1. Is this an example of misandry?

Q2. If it was a girl in place of a boy, would that be an example of misogyny?

A1) No.

A2) Yes.

A3, because I think I know what you're going to ask - because of what we said earlier in the thread.

next question- could you provide me with an example of something which is misandry then?

Yes, I could, but you could just read the thread, which would do it nicely.

You can tell he's a bloke can't you?

Comes over here and demands that women give him their time, energy and attention, giving him examples and what not, imagining that he has the god-given right to set the terms of the discourse.

So dull. D'you reckon he's a friend of that one last night?

I couldn't possibly comment, fastidia, I'm sure I've no idea.

The reason I asked for an example is because I don't understand where you are coming from.

LRD answered that a "boys are stupid throw rocks at them" shirt is not misandrist. But a "girls are stupid throw rocks at them" shirt is misogynist.

???

I'm afraid you need to go away and do the reading.

I'd recommend Kat Banyard's Equality Illusion as a start.

Come back when you've read that and then I'll recommend some more.

HTH

Oh, that's a pity, sorry to hear that.

I don't always understand things either. Maybe it'll sink in by the morning or something? Seriously - it is quite a long thread, it could take a couple of readings and a bit of googling to get there, IMO.

Best of luck.

Ah, cross posted.

Seems we are in agreement.

Is it really necessary to read an entire book to understand?

I don't know.

I understood it just by reading this thread and others like it.

Yep, read the thread first if the book is too daunting.

LRD- Of course there would be a relatively small proportion of people for very legitimate reasons wouldn't be able to run alongside the men (e.g.Medical condition, domestic violence, rape), however the volume of potential non-registers is indicative of something above and beyond this. A open conversation with a group of friends revealed such opinions as "It just wouldn't be such a party atmosphere if men took part so I wouldn't do it" and "I wouldn't re register because it's own little space". I think it's very sad(and selfish) that a disease that effects EVERYBODY is denied much needed revenue for the sake of a "party atmosphere" or having to share their "own little space".

"there would be a relatively small proportion of people for very legitimate reasons wouldn't be able to run alongside the men (e.g.Medical condition, domestic violence, rape)"

So what percentage would that be then? (1 in 4 women have experience of serious domestic violence.)

And what do you think should be done about them? Should they just piss off and not run then, because men's right to be in their space and change the whole event into a completely different event, must be accomodated?

I don't think you realize how many people those 'legitimate reasons' might affect.

I think it is exceedingly selfish that men would want to gate-crash this event, which as you say, is to raise money for a disease that effects everybody.

How very selfish. And how lazy - it would raise more money to run two events.

That said, I find it very unlikely many men would want to do this. It'll be a minority of selfish types, because most people who want to raise money for cancer aren't selfish.

Yes if men want to do a run for cancer, why don't they set up an event, instead of crashing the event that was set up and run by women for women?

Some men can't stand to see women doing something unsupervised without men, can they?

FB: This is not a question of the race per se, it's the fact that a lot of women (excluding the groups mentioned previously)would have put selfish anti-male sentiment over the battle against this terrible disease.This is a form of Misandry.

I'd also like to see the source of your "1 in 4" statistic, and it's underlying methodology if possible.

Look at Rape Crisis.

Why don't men set up their own event, if they are so desperate to run?

Why are they so insistent that women are not allowed to organise without them?

Really you are arguing that an event organised by women for an issue that overwhelmingly affects them is misandry. Ffs. How insensitive and crass can you get?
It isn't anti-male sentiment. It is just wanting a woman only space. We are allowed to have them. Wanting to have a space just for women does not equate to hating men. Why would you think that? Do you think men are misogynists for having board meetings with no women on the board. Or rounds of golf with their mates/business contacts? It is 30 whole minutes away from men. I think men's egos can take it. But no, you begrudge women that.