The departure of dittany

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I only know that she has left, and in her post she didn't say much as to why, though some people can speculate and imagine why.

Quite a few days ago (last weekend I think) there were threads that pinpointed the lack of consideration that MNHQ has toward the sort of trolls that infest the FS section from time to time - different in nature and purpose to your average troll that infects MN from time to time.

It may well be that d. is in contact with regular posters whom she trusts. I don't know.

What I do know is that d. was a fabulous source of invigoration and illumination to a lot of posters, myself included, though we didn't always agree with her.

I would like a review from MNHQ of their current "talk guidlines" policy, in order that the FS is provided with a consideration that recognises the particular vulnerability that it experiences.

D. left for her own reasons - but this presents itself as a sort of 'test case' for MN to respond sensitively.

Would anyone agree and post here in support of this?

I think taking of "demise" whiffs rather unpleasantly of schadenfreude actually, and sounds spiteful and rude. Did you mean it to come across like that?

oh LRD you've forgotten the rule that anyone can say anything they like about feminists but if we respond we are mean.
We mustn't use pronouns now apparently. Or am I offending someone by using the word 'we' when clearly not every feminist in the world is referred to?

what did i say on what thread?
doormat?yes was that was the wife with backache hunched over a laptop for 5yr and her caveman husband wouldnt share. damn right thats doormat,if you dont have reflective abilities to think hmmm something amiss here and definitively act...well you is being a doormat who is facilitating his behaviours because by acquiescing you send signal its acceptable behaviours

Sybil, how dare you call us we. We are deeply offended... Oh, shittity fuck.

keep banging your pet drums sm

over and over again

You do seem to be repeating yourself quite a lot today, scottishmummy. Are you feeling ignored?

well lets see...if one agree wth post its incisive and spot in
if no likey its a banging drum
lol,you see thats how any discursive forum works inc mn

and frankly the fem topics use all the
stop banging on,
derailer,
what about the menz
troll
to deflect any post they dont like
its the default position

sunshine, yy, sure we're arguing the same thing, really. but the number of defining feminism threads always boil down to a simplistic starting point. and when it gets down to having to prove credentials, that's when the clique accusations begin. and totally impossible to prove credentials in this day and age without waving a neon sign for the next stalker to follow.

my favourite spats were the good old days when the likes of olkn (sure it was, might be wrong) was told she wasn't a fem. until she proved her credentials, like.

i'm not a card-carrier (save the theoretical fawcett kind) and like a good debate as much as the next person. but i don't have the energy to be a full time fwr poster - so i tend to make broadly feminist posts across the boards, rather than restricting it to theoretical discussion. more of a philosophy of life rather than a calling. doesn't stop me being mra-tastic though

i do want to point out that i don't feel excluded, though (in case it appears i feel that way) - despite the occasional disagreement, i do still post when i feel like it. and so should everyone else, as long as the obvious trollery and derailment are dealt with.

i am concerned about rl security issues though. (and that's across the board). mners of all flavours have had notorious stalking issues, and the recent wave of activists targeting fwr does need to be discussed by mnhq.

I don't think another forum altogether is needed. The same sort of incursion has been done on some relationship threads with the offending posters given the heave ho only after they disrupted and derailed a lot of threads with their 'but DV happens to menz too' bs.

but ive been on threads were some will barely acknowledge any female dysfunction or criminality and make broad brush statements all men are entitled cocks etc

and its nigh on impossible to have any discussion of dysfunction or deviancy as some just habitually try argue well men do it more. ignoring that as unpalatable as it is some women are dysfunctional and dv can have a female perpetrator. and when trying to have any discussion even raising female dysfunction is jumped upon as apologist of some kind

Math is it perhaps easier to see them off on a personal, this individual case, rather than a theoretical thread about DV? A support thread is a different thing to a theory thread re societal trends, stats, etc

God that was garbled but I hope you deciphered it ok, Math!

Out of people posting on here who is going to UKFEminista? And have you booked workshops?

I understood what you mean, Sal.

I'm hoping to book on Tuesday, Posie, and will be booking workshops asap after that.

I can't seem to book any......

no, too far.

did anyone attend women's worlds 2011? i couldn't go as we were moving house, but would love to hear if anyone made it...

the academic conferences in toronto are v good - and tend to focus on mothering/ feminism. don't think we have any regular posters in that neck of the woods though.

posie It didn't give me the option of booking workshops - I assumed the setup is different to last year. Hope I'm not wrong as otherwise I haven't booked properly!

madwoman, would love to be able to join the conference in toronto...

phew.

were you a member of the old ARM? MIRCI now send out the cfp and organise etc - these folk organise. am desperately in love with andrea o'reilly

what are you apologising and red faced about? given ditany has flounced i dont get what your apologising for

Well sm I suspect it's just a sort of sensitivity, n'est-ce pas?

Words on a screen SM.....don't get so wound up.