You don't have to be feminist to post here, but it helps...

[MrsReasonable]

I've noticed that whenever a 'non-feminist' view is brought up, there are occasionally some posts along the lines of 'this is a feminist board, why come here if you aren't...', etc.

Genuine question - is this a feminist board, or a board about feminism? Obviously the majority of posters are feminist, but I'm not sure whether that is because feminists (surprise surprise) like discussing feminism, or because it is seen as a feminist 'safe haven'?

OK - have started pink princess thread in femanism - oh the shame!

offended by what?some words on a screen.nah

I would be too, if it was a real face, I read it ironically, but i fully accept that's subjective - what can't be disputed is that the poster in question IMMEDIATELY apologised for any upset. Just crossed wires as far as I can see.

thats the peril of the wee humphy faces.passive aggressive

claig - I'm fairly sure you're not but you're coming across as a SM sock puppet on this thread. I'm sure she's big enough to speak for herself without you telling us about how you're 'sure' she's feeling

norma - sorry for posting 6about6 you there rather than to you

are you instructing people what to post.interesting

SGB, lying to insurance companies (and the cops) is illegal. If their phone was found by the police and it wasn't what they said they'd lost, they'd be done for fraud and, hopefully, wasting police time. It looks a bit strange to be using that as an analogy to a rape complaint ...

Ohhh, the old "stats are made up" line... These are government stats. But of course, they're made up...

The basis of the UK judiciary system may be innocent until proven guilty. But when we apply that to a rape case, in which the prosecution is made on the victim's identification of the assailant, the message that gives out is the judiciary system doesn't believe you. It's up to you to prove that you're telling the truth, not for him to prove that he's innocent.

It's the nagging fear that you won't be believed which stops a lot of victims reporting rape. Why should we live in a society where rapists are getting away scot free because the default setting is to believe them over the victim?

claig, I think she is rude. It's nothing to do with style, I commented on teh substance of her posts. Please tell me how that is 'style' and how it is subjective that she's being rude?

SM @ 21:12

dragon,it was a wee digression.attempt humour and all that
not a searing dismissal of official statistics
unless you wanted to see it as that

Are you talking to me sm? I'm not telling anyone how to post at all - I just think it's a bit odd and if I were you I'd be a bit weirded out by someone else saying how I feel about something. Obviously if you're happy with cheerleaders interpreting how you feel, that's your prerogative.

Yes, of course I am a scottishmummy sockpuppet. You've got it.

I don't like people being personally attacked. I support people who are being singled out. That's why I have always supported dittany and why I support scottishmummy too.

When I read your comments like this about any poster

'Do you have anything useful to say or are you just filling up space here? (and yes, I fully acknowledge that's aggressive but I'm getting bored of you going on and on and not actually saying anything interesting).'

then I choose to be a sockpuppet for that poster.

It's the nagging fear that you won't be believed which stops a lot of victims reporting rape. Why should we live in a society where rapists are getting away scot free because the default setting is to believe them over the victim?

There actually are police advisories to assume a rape complainant is telling the truth. I can see why it pisses them off, though I think it's necessary. I don't know whether the message is getting through in the majority of regional forces. Hampshire seems to have led the way ... unless you know different?

Come and rant on my "asking for it" thread :)

i see affirmative posts you likey=supportive
affirmative posts about me= puppet
thanks for that clarification

Ah, nice to know you support people claig. That must have been the warm and fluffy feelingn I got earlier in the thread, when Rhubarb told me I shouldn't say I was upset as it was playing the victim.

I was particularly impressed at how you managed to support me in total silence, that was really special.

LRD, do you really want me to dissect your posts about her?

I don't think she is rude, she is one of my favourite posters. I am guaranteed to laugh out loud if I click on a thread she is on. So it is subjective. She never called you rude.

LRD, I haven't been on the thread for all 840 posts, and I support people whom I choose to. I like dittany and scottishmummy, that's why I support them. I can't support everyone.

So you just defend anyone randomly claig?

How about:
I know that a lot of people think that black people are not mentally different to white people but really, that isn't true. If it were, they wouldn't be largely stuck doing menial jobs would they?

I'm probably going to get a lot of flak for that statement. Are you going to defend me?

Garlicnutter: Yes, it's fraud and wasting police time. So is lying about being the victim of any crime. But even though lying about theft of valuable property is far more common than lying about being raped, if someone says that they had their phone/wallet/jewellery nicked, they are not immediately challenged by someone else about how much it was their own fault and how they should be careful about making false claims. Whereas any woman who mentioned she's been raped is going to get someone or other asking if a) she's sure, because that's a Very Serious Accusation and b) how much did her behaviour contribute to the crime happening.

Oh thank god, there's only 100 posts to go of this absurdity. You've bored the tits off the entire board, very well done. You win a shrivelled nipple medal.

youre a v vexatious poster tonight

No I said I defend people whom I like and whose posts I have read for a long time. I also defend people who are being unjustly attacked and singled out.

I don't defend everything. I don't defend your nasty post about scottishmummy, I don't defend you accusation that I am a sockpuppet and I wouldn't defend race stirring posts. I don't defend stirrers.