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Hi, I just thought you should know you are being bitched about on this website

138 replies

sakura · 19/08/2011 12:39

I've just received a PM from ShroedingersMew directing me to a website where, apparently, I am being bitched about.

I haven't bothered even to click on the link. But I just wanted to let the other feminists on here know in case something similar happens to them.

I would say the best thing to do is ignore the link, ignore the website altogether, and not let them have the traffic.

There are two things abusive men hate: being laughed at, and being ignored.

OP posts:
justforaminute · 19/08/2011 14:59

Tyr-this wasnt a personal dig at you.
yeah we did trade insults-but i think we ve moved on from that now.
thanks for the appology Tyr.but a i say-this wasnt a dig at you.
its something that often happens both on the net and rl.
actually-i just expect it if someone wants to take a pop at me-hence my post.
i dont hold grudgesWink-well.... just against the patriarchy.

sparky

LeBJOF · 19/08/2011 15:01

Wouldn't it be funny if we could see how many people were reading a Mumsnet thread? Actually, no, it would be fucking terrifying Grin

justforaminute · 19/08/2011 15:04

ha ha ha ha-

sparky

YaMaYaMa · 19/08/2011 15:06

Oh could I have a linky please? I find these people a sort of funny/scary with a dash of the tragi-comic.

Pagwatch · 19/08/2011 15:11

here

The facebook page is mumsnetsucks

TheMagnificentBathykolpian · 19/08/2011 15:13

"The biggest social issue facing us today"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Dear god, this guy has really got a problem, hasn't he.

We could have hours of fun, speculating what it might be... Grin

Pagwatch · 19/08/2011 15:16

He is quite obviously sockpuppeting himself on the misandry board and the facebook page.

That is both the funniest thing and the saddest thing I have ever heard.

He isn't quite such an issue really is he?
And it speaks to the fact that his attitudes are not common. He couldn't rustle up a crowd to piss on him in a localised fire emergency.

Is this misandrygate Grin

YaMaYaMa · 19/08/2011 15:21

Haha!

"This is an MRA site and doesn't need to comply with the wishes of Man hating lunatics who frown on free speech"

Why can this idiot not apply the same rule to the feminism section; it doesnt need to comply with the wishes of MRAs.

Seriously, why can he not grasp that and instead has this delusional grand vision of seeking to shut the feminism section down?

Bless Grin

SchrodingersMew · 19/08/2011 15:23

Kudos to whoever responded to him.

I can't wait to see his reply to that. :o

YaMaYaMa · 19/08/2011 15:26

I'm not sure if I should report him for breaching the terms of use for 'abusive/threatening/libel' or 'being under 13 years old'.

AliceWyrld · 19/08/2011 15:26

There are quite a few instances I have seen where this guy goes round various forums to 'spread the word'. He either gets ignored, or people say 'meh, so what'. Bless him. He ran into that m i s a n d r y place to call for arms and tell them all to join his facebook group, and the numbers didn't go up. Jamez did say he'd ask his mum to join though. Not that that is in anyway funny at all.

TheMagnificentBathykolpian · 19/08/2011 15:27

Silly silly girl, YaMa.

He is a man and therefore must be listened to and his view should be respected and we should obey.

we are women and should shut up, accept the authority of Him and get back in the kitchen.

I wonder if he's ever been laid single.

YaMaYaMa · 19/08/2011 15:33

Why do you hate men, Bathy, why why?

StayFrosty · 19/08/2011 15:33

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

TheMagnificentBathykolpian · 19/08/2011 15:35

Penis envy of course.

I wish I had one just like our dear old avenell

SchrodingersMew · 19/08/2011 15:35

I reported him for 'abusive/threatening/libel'.

SchrodingersMew · 19/08/2011 15:36

Bathy :o

YaMaYaMa · 19/08/2011 15:42

Grin as the turtleneck

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 19/08/2011 15:56

www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=misandry

sakura · 19/08/2011 16:06

Adonis Mirror

"The story of history is a story of mirrors. It is not a tale scribed by victors on bloody battlefields. Nor is it told by professors or preachers. Instead, it is the story of white men seated on greasy couches, watching late-night television with reddened eyes. Regardless of their station, their individual qualities during the day, they are all men who are given the sanction to imagine themselves as victors, links in a long chain, merely by looking the part. They see a reflection of their own personalities in the great generals and emperors of the past. Others, in their eyes, exist outside of such thrilling legacies. To them, the human record is filtered through an ego-colored glass that first rendered God as a man and then his Son as a white one. The history of dominance that they recall?some of it real, much of it pure fantasy?translates into contemporary power for those who are able to borrow authority from its hallowed vaults. Belonging to a social class with not just historic power but the power to control history can go a long way in making up for personal shortcomings.

The backlash against feminism has always found solace in a mythological past where men were men and gender lines were freely drawn in wide swaths of blood. They smugly insist that cavewomen were burdens to their brave hunters. They deny that there was ever any Great Goddess or matriarchy, even though such theories were highly promoted by male scholars before women themselves were admitted to the academy. As females became their peers, or at least too close for comfort, the idea of matriarchy was transformed from a libidinous hypothesis to a threatening reminder of the precariousness of male dominance. To this end, antifeminists also argue that sexism aimed against men is the most pressing danger to our own civilization, a society that just might tumble back to the Stone Age if the disparagement of masculinity continues. Criticism from women is somehow more dangerous than a male-created nuclear holocaust: evidently only men have the right to drive us onward to our extinction.

While men have long enjoyed attacking ungrateful women as ?man haters,? the epithet seems more than a little bit silly when transposed onto the printed page?something demanded by the burgeoning market for so-called Men?s Studies materials. It certainly lacks the gravitas required to reflect the widespread injury and social disadvantages that many white males believe they endure on a daily basis. Thus a more scientific-sounding term was needed for ?the hatred of men? and antifeminists crafted one out of their own perverted imagination of antiquity: misandry.

Cobbled together from two generally recognizable Greek components, ?misandry? has the appearance of consequence and refinement. Words with such roots are privileged in our society. They are used by doctors and lawyers, not out of necessity, but as a matter of status: they can view their own image in that mirror of history, standing tall with the great men of the ages. The capital letters we afford to Classical Civilization is an artifact of both racism and sexism. That very same authority, unearned as it is, was harnessed in order to fashion the word misandry. As it is an unfamiliar term to most who encounter it, many automatically assume that it has sound intellectual underpinnings given our society?s expectations for such words and the biases that surround them. This is no accident.

Furthermore, the archaic roots misrepresent misandry?s status as a new word, a neologism: antifeminists want nothing more than to mislead the public into thinking the word has always existed. With the seed of that deception planted, they can then blame its esoteric status on a feminist conspiracy that quietly removed misandry from our vernacular, just as reports of abusive women and battered men are allegedly censored by the agents of Political Correctness. This tactic has actually met with a good measure of success: many who encounter ?misandry? for the first time are given cause to wonder why they have never before heard a word that is made to seem ?obvious? in nature by its proponents. By adding a veneer of Pentelic marble to ?man hater,? these men are able to act as if ?misandry? were an unearthed treasure waiting to be found and not a newly minted piece of plastic.

The word and its variations (misandric, misandrist, et. al) were first used only by the most militant of antifeminists, where even the most published and professional remained outliers in male society. One early adopter of ?misandry? was Warren Farrell, a man who once wrote on the benefits of incest for Penthouse magazine. Yet its constant repetition over the past decade has turned it from the battle-cry of the pathetic to a banal trivia question. It serves as the answer to ?what is the opposite of misogyny,? a rhetorical question often posed to the editors of online-dictionaries by readers, all seemingly possessed of unlimited quantities of mock-innocence. Misandry?s less combustible presentation has allowed it to surge ahead of competing antifeminist devices (?androphobia?) that have since fallen by the wayside.

This transformation has framed the term in a ?common sense? approach that many feminists, especially young ones, have difficulty discounting: if the word misogyny exists, logically and mathematically, there must be another side of that coin to restore balance. This tact has the advantage of highlighting ?rationality? as a masculine attribute. Those who refuse to acknowledge the legitimacy of misandry, both as a word and as a sociological fact, are portrayed as effeminate and thus bereft of logic, no matter how detailed and thought-out their arguments might be. Feminists who employ the so-called ?soft sciences? of history and sociology in their rebuttals are easily disregarded by men who invoke ?hard science? on their own behalf: the Coin Defense involves mathematics, of a perverse kind, and is thus deemed ?objective? even though it is nothing of the sort."

OP posts:
justforaminute · 19/08/2011 16:11

well now apparently...Justine and Carrie can argue theyre case!!
what case?oh sorry....yes-giving women a space where they can talk to each other/understand each other and help each other.
all annon as a lot of times we cant talk about things unannon[or in rl]
so.............JUSTINE AND CARRIE...THANKYOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS SPACE...ITS HELPED ME GET RID OF A LIFETIME OF PAIN AND ITS HELPED ME TO HELP OTHERS UNDERSTAND AND HEAR...WHICH HOPEFULLY HELPS OTHERS.WITHOUT IT I WILL STILL BE IN THE HORRIBLE SPACE I WAS IN AND FEELING COMPLETLY ALONE.THANKYOU SO MUCH.
AND THANKYOU TO THE WOMAN/WOMEN WHO ASKED FOR THIS SPACE.
oh......and its interesting that Justine and carrie are being asked to argue theyre case.....like theyre accountable for others...other women in fact....
cos yes-women cant be accountable for theyre selves can they-they have to be owned by someone.
mns says the message is getting out.....yep sure is...but not in the way you mean.

sparky

TheMagnificentBathykolpian · 19/08/2011 16:14

Actually, justine and carrie - being named on there, hteir pictures put up and having certain insulting and untrue things said about them, can also complain to zetaboard, can't they?

ElectricSoftParade · 19/08/2011 16:17

TheMagnificentBathykolpian Grin Grin Grin

Pagwatch Is this misandrygate? Grin Grin Grin

This man is hilarious/scary/deranged. I have a slight obsession with the MN Sucks page, I keep being drawn back just to see what else he has come up with.

SybilBeddows · 19/08/2011 16:20

ESP have you thought of setting up a special website where you can report back on what he's been up to? You could call it MumsnetSucksSucks, or AntiAntiMumsnet. Grin

Pagwatch · 19/08/2011 16:20

To be honest I would almost rather leave him be.

He is a sad fucker. I would rather know where the sad fucker hangs out and occasionally pop over to laugh at him ranting away while no one pays him any mind.