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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Judge says 13 year old girl seduced man online

174 replies

sethstarkaddersmackerel · 05/04/2011 10:23

Daily Mail link

fgs. I thought you had to be intelligent to be a judge. Don't they at least give them basic training?

judge should be sacked.

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StewieGriffinsMom · 09/04/2011 22:41

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mumblecrumble · 09/04/2011 22:43

True. Said it to a student teacher yestesday in fact that child protection was like walking near a cliff edge. You get as far away as possible and if in any doublt of age you find out or don;t go near it (he wanted to give someone a lift) I;m known as a total prude/child protection evagelist at work so upset by your reactions on here.

The images are dispicable, I already mentioned that I;m sure.

I was involved in research into this teenaged before (both genders) and it fouund that although some are subject to abuse most feel that seuxalised behaviour is expected of them due to TV, music video (Primark bikinies?) etc.

I loath it and dread it for my little one.

I'll only ask once more, as i presumed this was what this thread was about - what happened about the images? Wasd he not charged at all?

sethstarkaddersmackerel · 09/04/2011 22:45

you see this is another reason why I wouldn't send my kids to a school with you in. You've just slagged off girls you teach online and then posted your real name so the school can be identified by anyone Shock.

you need to get it deleted yourself if Stewie's reporting it hasn't done the trick, you could literally lose your job over this.

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tethersegg · 09/04/2011 22:47

x-post

mumble, if you knew anything about CP at all, particularly as a teacher, you would know that you cannot discuss CP issues, particularly those of looked after children on an internet forum. You have identified yourself, therefore you have potentially identified vulnerable children.

Withdraw your post, and accept that you have fucked up. Hugely.

mumblecrumble · 09/04/2011 22:49

No i didn't.

I deal in child protection all the time - everything I put on here was public.

I didn;t slag anyone off.

StewieGriffinsMom · 09/04/2011 22:49

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HerBeX · 09/04/2011 22:51

mumble do you understand the difference between a grown man and a child who happens to be tall with big breasts and lots of lipstick on?

Do you understand the difference in responsibility and emotional maturity?

Because your posts indicate that your don't.

Your further posts, identifying yourself and therefore potentially identifying children who are vulnerable, indicate that you're a bit of a nutter actually. But it's saturday, so I'm wondering if you're just drunk? Because that's really the only reason I can think that a person with a job like your's, would post the stuff you have done this evening.

flippinada · 09/04/2011 22:52

This doesn't ring true at all, I don't believe for one second that this woman (if in fact the poster is a woman) is a secondary school teacher.

My mother was a one for years, one of my best friends is also a secondary school teacher.

I cannot imagine them coming out with such mind blowingly idiotic, unprofessional comments- and then identifying themselves online! It goes some way beyond unbelievable.

mumblecrumble · 09/04/2011 22:54

SO what are you expecting to happen to em now? Banned from mumsnet and the teaching profession.

Well done Mumsnet - a good nights work. AN evil, children hating, slap dsh teacher who mentioned 13 year olds might do things inappropriate and mentioned that a teenaged girl had problems with a boyfriend at at school gotten rid of.

Good thing too - I mean looking at all her mumsnet posts she (of is it a he - this matters you know) is a danger to your children.

And mentioned her name (you know if you did enough research you;d find it anyway).

This is getting so dull. I was really interested in the case OP mentioned.

tethersegg · 09/04/2011 22:55

mumble, you did. You fucked up. You have made a huge error, one which could see you the subject of a GTCE investigation.

I deal in child protection more than you, I guarantee it. I am telling you as a fellow teacher that you have made an error. Fix it.

HerBeX · 09/04/2011 22:55

So interested that you focus on the behaviour of girls who get abused by adult males instead of focusing on the beahviour of the adult males who abuse them?

StewieGriffinsMom · 09/04/2011 22:57

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mumblecrumble · 09/04/2011 22:57

I appreciate you 'concern'. I don;t belive I did anything to identify kids I work with.

Perhaps my emplyment cicumstances not clear. I shall go, only becasue I feel i;m taking up too much space

Will email copy of these posts to my principle and teachingmentor and see what they say.

Already asked two collegues on facebook and they say the comments are reasonable.

flippinada · 09/04/2011 23:00

Sorry...but no way is this real.

If it is, this is deeply concerning.

On the off chance it is, have reported.

mumblecrumble · 09/04/2011 23:00

How do I pull it please?

StewieGriffinsMom · 09/04/2011 23:02

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HerBeX · 09/04/2011 23:02

The comments are reasonable?

What focussing on the fact that some 13 year olds look older than they are, so implying that the poor helpless rapists are being duped into raping them by accident?

Yeah, very reasonable. Hmm

But lots of people agree with you I'm sure. That's why there's a 6% conviction rate for rape - becasue loads of people, on Facebook or otherwise, are desperate not to place the blame for rape where it lies - on the rapist. Even when the victims are children.

StewieGriffinsMom · 09/04/2011 23:03

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tethersegg · 09/04/2011 23:03

I am an advisory teacher for looked after children and am telling you, the comments need removing- for your sake as much as anyone's.

Report your own post using the 'report' button on the blue name bar above the post.

mumblecrumble · 09/04/2011 23:04

I didnlt justify rape. Come on.

Stewis this is true - hence why iw as careful about what i said.
I have emailed mumsnet. Thnks for your advice folks.

Continue as you were.

AyeRobot · 09/04/2011 23:04

I think it's been reported. So you'll have to wait and hope no-one has googled your name, taken screen shots and circulated them to the people that employ you.

Have another drink whilst you wait for MNHQ to delete.

flippinada · 09/04/2011 23:05

This is real isn't it?

Bloody hell. Glad I reported. This is very, very concerning.

HerBeX · 09/04/2011 23:07

So what was all the shit baout 13 year olds looking older than they are?

What does that have to do with the choice of grown men to rape children?

sethstarkaddersmackerel · 09/04/2011 23:09

thing is mumble, you didn't actually say '12 year old girls at my school show each other photos of themselves' doing certain things, but by mentioning girls doing it in the same post as talking about girls from your school, you have left it open to people interpreting it as it being the girls from your school that you mean, and for a teacher to say 'girls from my school do [something illegal/dodgy]' on a public forum when the school can be identified, you are bringing the school into disrepute: this makes the school sound like not a very good one where parents would not want to send their daughters.

if your head is pragmatic about everyone knowing what the school is like, he might not care. On the other hand if the school is trying to protect or improve its image, you could be in big trouble.

and that is as well as the CP issues that other people have mentioned.

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mumblecrumble · 09/04/2011 23:10

I don;t drink.

Have sent copy of my commetns to mumsnet and my employer.