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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

What acts of sexism have you encountered today?

324 replies

BertieBotts · 15/03/2011 19:32

I thought it would be interesting to have a thread where we can come on and post any day-to-day sexism/effects of sexism, thinking mainly low-level things, but big things are alright to post too of course. I thought it might be eye-opening (if depressing) to collate how much crap there is to deal with on a daily basis.

I'll start - while listening to music on spotify, having to listen to an unskippable ad for a rap artist playing a clip of his song which includes the lyrics We bring the women and the cars and the cards out Hmm

The other one I can think of (which fair enough was during a seminar about feminism) was a guy in my class who kept saying things like "Well yes women are paid less than men/women are vastly underrepresented in parliament/rape conviction rates are ridiculously low. [etc] But that's just the way it is. It's the same in all societies that I know of. I don't know what you can do about it." Angry

Anyone else?

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LadyOfTheManor · 24/03/2011 17:25

I just wish that I had a link to the NM thread. I'm only seeing half the conversation.

I want to practise kisses and hugs on strangers.

Wow that makes me sound rather odd and perverted.

CinnabarRed · 24/03/2011 17:30

Nothing. In fact I went to a meeting where the main participants were a very senior female member of HMRC and a very articulate and intelligent female leader of a political think tank. It was uplifting!

LadyOfTheManor · 24/03/2011 19:30

I read that thread. I don't understand;

a) the sympathy with the men
b) how the hell NM works in terms of who said what s'all very confusing.

dittany · 24/03/2011 19:46

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Unrulysun · 24/03/2011 20:16

What AyeRobot said. :(

thefirstMrsDeVere · 24/03/2011 20:32

As I said, been on NMs for many years so have time to see how it works. Members come and go but the opinions pretty much stay the same. I think people with views like mine/ours tend to give up after a while. It all becomes too much. You feel like you are on a crusade. That can be great at first because you CAN turn people round but it never stops.

There are just not that many deep thinkers on the site. It is mostly reactionary and regurgitated from the tabloids or what their OH's have heard in the pub.

I know that sounds really patronizing but its what I have seen for years. There are some really nice people on there and I do not connect lack of education with lack of abilty to think about an issue. I have had some great conversations with women who are even less educated than me and seen some shocking bollocks from those who are educuated to a high standard.

Its a bit like barging in on a conversation in a cafe. Lots of women with the same views chatting about immigrants, feral teenagers and 12 year old sex vixens. They agree with each other, they have had the same conversations with their mums, their OHs etc and suddenly someone comes in and says something they simply havent heard before.

They then attempt to bully you into submission by belittling you, their friends pile in and use lots of !!!!!!! and very emotive language like 'these men have paid the ultimate price for a mistake' etc. If you manage to hold your own others who have similar views will join in. In then goes one of two ways - it all calms down and people will admit that they are looking at things a different way OR the thread gets pulled because the original posters explode with indignation.

It is a weird place. Even weirder than MN Shock

startail · 24/03/2011 23:46

steamedtreaclesponge Sorry, but I'd be delighted if a builder whistled at me,
Would have to tell him "to go to spec savers"-though.
Kissy noices I would not like-thats creapy

Don't mind being called love, along with Duck it just reminds me of happy childhood days in Sheffield.

This does not mean I have any patience at all with men who think I don't understand technical things, builders and garages loose my custom very easily.

AyeRobot · 24/03/2011 23:54

startail, you don't see a connection between builders wolfwhistling and builders assuming that you don't know technical things?

Deliainthemaking · 25/03/2011 11:10

DP did something that I found innapropriate

i was washing dishes, I posted before about dryhumping which I passed of a horniness tbh.

he was like 'I could just bend you over now etc etc and pulled down my leggings and tried sticking it in..

whilst my mum & her mate where chatting in the next room!

he stopped and just carried on maing a drink Confused

AyeRobot · 25/03/2011 11:15

Delia, your partner's behaviour is extremely disturbing. He is sexually assaulting you. Do you want to start a new thread in this section so that we can give you some support?

Deliainthemaking · 25/03/2011 11:17

No atm just becasue of the disastourous thread I posted yesterday
the reactions (unrelated thread)

AyeRobot · 25/03/2011 11:20

Ok. Just remember that this section is a lot more supportive than others when dealing with this kind of behaviour.

I'm sorry this is happening to you. He is wrong and disrespectful and you don't have to put up with it.

Deliainthemaking · 25/03/2011 11:21

Thankyou
just needed to get it off my chest

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 25/03/2011 11:39

Delia - Shock at your partner. That is not ok. What was your reaction? Shock i imagine.

It's assault. Have you spoken to him about it?

(Alternative plan - from now on he does the washing up)

StewieGriffinsMom · 25/03/2011 11:41

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EngelbertFustianMcSlinkydog · 25/03/2011 13:00

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Deliainthemaking · 25/03/2011 15:42

was quiet shock tbh

just got on with dishes

Deliainthemaking · 25/03/2011 15:43

thanks for replie just want to keep it on DL

BertieBotts · 25/03/2011 16:00

Whenever you are ready Delia :) Some of us have been there and know how shitty it is first hand.

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Deliainthemaking · 25/03/2011 16:03

Lots of things I've read here have struck a cord , about more disturbing things which corrrelate

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 25/03/2011 16:20

I am still dumbfounded about what he did - did he actually undress himself and get his cock out? Confused :(

Deliainthemaking · 25/03/2011 16:54

no just undid his fly and pulled down my leggings

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 25/03/2011 20:07

That's filthy of him, and so disrespectful of you :( What would he say if you told him that he's not to do that again?

LadyOfTheManor · 25/03/2011 20:18

:( Oh Delia I'm sorry that you had to put up with that. Only you don't. Try and get some support from somewhere if you're not comfortable about posting it on here (or name change?)

colditz · 25/03/2011 20:22

My dad saying "Your Uncle X is setting up an engineering workshop - he'll be lokoing for staff from the family but I don't know what you or your sister could do, and your brother has a job..."

My brother has no more technical expertise than either me or my sister.