Diamonds are a girl's best friend.. Are they???

[sakura]

I'd like to start at thread about dodgy song lyrics, because songs are everywhere: in shops, on the radio, on TV, on old films; they're the background noise to life, which gives me the sense that they might be a form of brainwashing.

"Diamonds are a girl's best friend"
[No they're not, My best friend-a funny, warm, clever woman- is my best friend]

"ah, brown sugar how come you taste so good? ah, brown sugar just like a young girl should" (Rolling Stones) [Should I? Should girls taste of brown sugar?]

And that's before you get to all the songs about women pining for men who've jilted them, and men trying to get rid of clingy women who can't take the message....

Shows again how those in power get to define current popular ideology by only allowing the worldviews that they like/support/identify with to become public. ANd then everyone belives the patriarchal definition of women, even women themselves..

Or films too.. Does anyone remember Short CIrcuit, that film with Johnny five. I remember, as a girl, just being so confused because Stephanie, the woman "fell for" the robot, Johnny. I never got it, he was made of metal, didn't smell, taste or look like a person. WHy would a woman be so ecstatic to dance with a piece of metal? .
BUt now I realise because women's actual sexuality is often flat-out ignored in films WOmen don't have a sexuality, so a pretty woman can quite easily fall for a "male" robot in the world of Hollywood.

I hate hate hate Beyonce's song that goes "Put a ring on it". [vom]

girls just wanna have fun has always wound me up for some reason!

Stand By Your Man - a song about staying with an abusive prick because after all, he's just a man.

"Because I am your lady and you are my man. Whenever you reach for me I'm going to do all that I can..."

hate it hate it hate it!

''Here is my confession. May I be your possession''.

Sets my teeth on edge.

"I need a hero! He's gotta be big, he's gotta be strong and he's gotta be fresh from the fight!"

it sounds like a gushy teenage fantasy.

You're right Sakura, if a young woman is going to fall for e.g. the likes of grandpoppy Jack Nicholson, or Seth Rogen, why not a robot.

I like "Girls just wanna have fun" :o

The entire "prologue" to All Saints' Never Ever pisses me off:

"A few questions that I need to know
how you could ever hurt me so
I need to know what I've done wrong
and how long it's been going on
Was it that I never paid enough attention?
Or did I not give enough affection?
Not only will your answers keep me sane
but I'll know never to make the same mistake again
You can tell me to my face or even on the phone
You can write it in a letter, either way, I have to know
Did I never treat you right?
Did I always start the fight?
Either way, I'm going out of my mind
all the answers to my questions
I have to find"

STOP BLAMING YOURSELF WOMAN!!!

I second Beyonce for most teeth-itchingly wrong lyrics of the past decade - wtf is the it in, "If you liked it then you should have put a ring on it"? Way to objectify yourself, love. Nice.

Really?

I took 'ring on it' as 'I dumped you because you were a commitment-phobe, it's no use whining about it now'.

I always thought this was dodgy, from Thin Lizzy's "boys are back in town:

"You know that chick used to dance a lot?
Every night she'd be on the floor shaking what she'd got
Man I tell you she was cool, she was red hot
I mean she was steamin'

And that time over at Johnny's place
Well this chick got up and she slapped Johnny's face
Man we just fell about the place
If that chick don't wanna know, forget her"

"Don?t treat me to the things of this world
I?m not that kind of girl
Your love is what I prefer, what I deserve
Is a man that makes me, then takes me
And delivers me to destiny, to infinity and beyond [Buzz Lightyear to the Rescue!]
Pull me into your arms
Say I?m the one you own
If you don?t, you?ll be alone
And like a ghost I?ll be gone"

That's some of the lyrics of the Beyoncé song. Bleurgh.

The Crystals:

"He hit me
And it felt like a kiss
He hit me
But it didn't hurt me
He couldn't stand to hear me say
That I'd been with someone new
And when I told him I had been untrue

He hit me
And it felt like a kiss
He hit me
And I knew he loved me
If he didn't care for me
I could have never made him mad
But he hit me
And I was glad"

We used to sing along wiht that knowing it was crap, but still...

The Shirelles:

"Tonight's the night, completely
You give your love so sweetly
Tonight the light of love is in your eyes
But will you love me tomorrow?"

Oh it's so fucking abject. And Amy Winehouse did an updated version and it's still relevant because girls are still worried about whether boys will still love them when they've done it.

Bleurgh

Sorry that should be

"Tonight you're mine completely"

That bloody awful song that's around at the moment:

"I see you travel round town with the girl I love (backing singers: "She's a gold digger... just goes to show)"

Because no woman ever dumps a guy and goes out with a different one because she fancies him more.

Just because he's got more money. Obv.

driving round town even

Oh yes, 'forget you' or 'fuck you' I think (non-radio-version). I really love the sound of it, but "guess the change in my pocket wasn't enough" and all that [shudder].

Is that the one? Cee Lo Green or something. If it's not the same song .

"Sh-boom" has a line "If you do what I tell you to, everything will be just fine". Sets my teeth on edge (particularly that it's in a kids' movie!).

some good ones here.

What about "Hit me baby one more time" I was taking an English literature A-level at the time, which was all about looking for hidden meanings in prose, looking for themes. I tried to find an alternative meaning to this line, but realise that it meant what it sounds like it means

"Driving home for Christmas
Oh, I can't wait to see those faces
I'm driving home for Christmas, yea
Well I'm moving down that line
And it's been so long
But I will be there
I sing this song
To pass the time away
Driving in my car
Driving home for Christmas"

[because women's role is to tend to the home and hearth pining while the man goes about the world doing Important Business]