Feminism chat thread

[ElephantsAndMiasmas]

Hello

Been saying for ages that it'd be nice to have an area for just saying hi, letting off some steam and sharing the little things that don't warrant a whole thread.

So, I'll start...

My brother made me :o:o:o last night when we were talking about some crap sexist song. And he said (in all honesty) - well this is just one of the millions of ways the patriarchy keeps itself going.

Also got the updated email from the Feminism in London conference this morning - can't wait.

Anyone else?

Yes, I wear make up and try to look nice. HOw many women have the guts to give that up when you are "looked after" so well by men and the patriarchy when you do try to be feminine [and are sneered at if you don't try, and probably lose out on jobs and a chance to mate] It's one of women's survival techniques.

IN fact it makes perfect logical sense for women to try to use femininity to ingratiate themselves with the patriarchy. We really do have very little power. Once over 50% of females hold seats in parliament, or women have enough clout in the military, and in business, we might be able to reject the need to defer.

UNrulysun

Academic Feminism

Another interesting thread

"Have just watched that link and I have to say I love Kate Walsh, she was brilliant."

What link!? I can't find it.

Linked at Sun 30-Jan-11 13:32:29

TY

I need to rant! Why does everyone I talk about feminism to who is close to me seem to be so worried that I might go 'too far'? What on earth do they mean!? Even people who I thought got it are worried...do they think I'm going to start smashing shop windows or leaving my husband for another woman???? I don't get it!

Has anyone else experienced this? It's really beginning to piss me off.

You might stop doing the laundry...

Hahaha! Not sure how that would affect friends, though, except that I might get a bit smelly.

Probably means they fear you'll start wear dungarees & shave your head and lose your sense of humour. Or whatever stereotype feminist they have in their heads.

It's ok to be feminist - but only if you don't call it that . It's a scary word!

I definitely think I'm going to ask, next time, what on earth they mean by 'too far'. It is very odd!

They are either (generous interpretation) worried that you are never going to talk about anything else, ever again, and they won't be able to talk to you about men/what's on the telly/the weather without you bringing up feminism.

Or they are worried that you'll upset the applecart and they'll all have to face up to their privilege/question why their husbands can't operate basic machinery (like ovens and washing machines).

hiya sAf :) I didn't read that thread but it certainly sounds irritating. Nor did I see your anti-church outburst, you rabble rouser. Were you shunned?

"They are either (generous interpretation) worried that you are never going to talk about anything else, ever again, and they won't be able to talk to you about men/what's on the telly/the weather without you bringing up feminism."

sAF, I wanted to tell you that you didn't sound angry at all on that thread. I didn't know why they kept telling you you were angry.
your experiences sounded so infuriating. I was shaking my fist at the screen at the thought of those women who were 30 going on 50.
My mum used to take me to church, and believed in god, but I read a lot from a very early age and I think that provided some sort of immunity. Also, we weren't really part of a community. Actually, come to think of it, I think church was just a phase my mum went throuhg

Anyway I haven't been hurt by religion in the way you clearly have. It was so annoying to see those posters ride roughshod over your experiences, and the things you were reporting that you had seen^

don't know why that was in italics

SAF - I enjoyed your anti-church posts. I do think it's a topic that needs its own thread, though. I also get very angry about the church. I think anger is good, it helps you to stay focussed.

On another note, have we had a thread about celebrating great women whose achievements are often overlooked? Can anyone remember?

yes that was my thread

Annoying re-writings of history

I need backup...please!!

SOrry Ingrid - I started reading the thread and it was just getting longer every time I moved it on! NOt sure I can wade thorugh it all. Is it all the same stuff over and over? I'd give up if I were you. They're not going to suddenly start agreeing with you, but you've said enough, I'm sure, to make some people think a bit harder about what happens when women engage unwillingly in sexual intercourse, even if they aren't physically forced into it. That's all you can hope for - to get a few more people starting to see it differently.

Thankyou Flamingo, that's nice of you x

Thankyou, have replied. I really appreciate it.

They really are an odd bunch on that thread.