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Words/phrases you have seen in books that you have never heard a real life person say

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OneUmberJoker · 17/12/2025 17:01

Little high little low - stuart little

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dancehysterical22 · 13/06/2026 07:32

NotMyRealAccount · 04/06/2026 14:48

I grew up in the West of Scotland and we used "fizzog" as a neutral/mildly derogatory synonym for "face".

So did I, never heard of it. I was Eastend of Glasgow though, so maybe said elsewhere!

HonoriaBulstrode · 13/06/2026 11:48

Tilting or lifting your chin in defiance or pride. Always women.

Started reading a book by an author new to me yesterday evening. The main character had
a way of tilting her chin in an unconscious gesture of defiance.

echt · 13/06/2026 23:54

Thinking of the padding, I've never heard of anyone remarking on a big, usually overweight man "moving with surprising swiftness and grace", though it crops up a lot in badly-written and/or lazily-edited books.

I think it was Kyril Bonfiglioli who sarcastically wove this annoying trope into one of his Mortdecai novels. All of which are very funny.

Gateappreciation · 14/06/2026 03:02

TheeNotoriousPIG · 12/06/2026 12:56

@shithotlawyer ‘Penny for your thoughts’ is very much a thing where I grew up on the Lancashire/Yorkshire borders. I haven’t heard it since I moved away, though…

My grandmother still uses jersey (never a jumper at her house) and anorak, which seems to be dying out in favour of ‘coat’. Oh, and dresses are always ‘frocks’ at her house.

We used anorak a lot growing up, but it’s true you don’t hear it anymore. An anorak, though was a type of coat, a raincoat. Also, used as a mild, derogatory slang word, meaning ‘square’ - is that used anymore?

giemepeace · 14/06/2026 04:58

I have been reading a novel with DC which repeatedly has started a sentence with ‘Next day, …’. It sounds so wrong to me, like it should be ‘The next day, …’ does anyone know what I mean?!!

Gateappreciation · 14/06/2026 08:19

giemepeace · 14/06/2026 04:58

I have been reading a novel with DC which repeatedly has started a sentence with ‘Next day, …’. It sounds so wrong to me, like it should be ‘The next day, …’ does anyone know what I mean?!!

That would annoy me as well, and I feel it should be ‘The next day’, , or even, ‘On the next day, we did…’.

Terpsichore · 14/06/2026 08:54

We used anorak a lot growing up, but it’s true you don’t hear it anymore. An anorak, though was a type of coat, a raincoat. Also, used as a mild, derogatory slang word, meaning ‘square’ - is that used anymore?

DH and I were doing a crossword the other day and the clue was Heading to Greenland, I’m afraid daughters order anoraks

Answer: Geekdom

Weedingtodo · 14/06/2026 10:08

@Terpsichore
I’m useless at crosswords, but somehow fascinated by them! I can’t figure out how you get that answer from that clue. I do get the geek/anorak bit but the rest of it is a mystery to me. Could you explain further please? 🙏

Terpsichore · 14/06/2026 10:48

Weedingtodo · 14/06/2026 10:08

@Terpsichore
I’m useless at crosswords, but somehow fascinated by them! I can’t figure out how you get that answer from that clue. I do get the geek/anorak bit but the rest of it is a mystery to me. Could you explain further please? 🙏

@Weedingtodo It took us ages to work out - one of our last ones to complete!

'Heading to Greenland' = G ('heading' often indicates the first letter in crossword land)

'I'm afraid' = eek!

'daughters' = d (using a single letter abbreviation for words is also standard, and Chambers dictionary is the approved place to check which ones are OK, although tbh we don’t go that far and don’t use it). To be super-pedantic, because it’s in the plural I'd have expected ‘daughters' to imply a double d…so this is a slightly clunky clue actually.

'OM' = Order of Merit, an order

And finally, 'Anoraks' = the definition of the whole clue (you can expect this to come either at the beginning or end of the clue)

Answer - Geekdom.

Phew! 😅

Choccyp1g · 14/06/2026 11:20

Thanks for that explanation, I got as far as the D, but couldn't get the OM.

Weedingtodo · 14/06/2026 11:25

Terpsichore · 14/06/2026 10:48

@Weedingtodo It took us ages to work out - one of our last ones to complete!

'Heading to Greenland' = G ('heading' often indicates the first letter in crossword land)

'I'm afraid' = eek!

'daughters' = d (using a single letter abbreviation for words is also standard, and Chambers dictionary is the approved place to check which ones are OK, although tbh we don’t go that far and don’t use it). To be super-pedantic, because it’s in the plural I'd have expected ‘daughters' to imply a double d…so this is a slightly clunky clue actually.

'OM' = Order of Merit, an order

And finally, 'Anoraks' = the definition of the whole clue (you can expect this to come either at the beginning or end of the clue)

Answer - Geekdom.

Phew! 😅

Thanks so much!

TellingBone · 14/06/2026 11:47

My favourite author, Patricia Wentworth, wrote mainly during the Golden Age of crime fiction. Lots of words and phrases her characters use have now fallen out of use.

Two that immediately spring to mind:

'That's piling Pelion on Ossa' - I had to look this up. It means to make a difficult situation even worse.

'A silly, peter-grievous female...' - a melancholy person apparently.

Terpsichore · 14/06/2026 12:01

@TellingBone oh yes! Golden Age crime fiction is a treasure-trove of now-mostly-forgotten phrases (I think that’s partly why I love it). Another Miss Silver devotee here.

tokennamechange · 14/06/2026 12:42

Shithotlawyer · 12/06/2026 11:34

I found the updated 80s books very perplexing. I knew they were children from the 30s-50s, so why were they in jeans?

I had just come from reading E Nesbit and Noel Streatfeild too, so I had a good understanding of what children wore, quite well calibrated, at every point from about 1880 onwards. It was obvious to me by age 10 that children at different periods wore sets of things that I had never worn - but I was very clear on what they were.

In books of Enid Blyton's era they had slacks, tunics, rubber-soled shoes, galoshes, mackintoshes, knickers with elastic and pockets (where you could keep a Ten Pound Note at Malory Towers if you were a spoilt rich girl). Boys in shirts with collars, boys only wearing shorts not trousers until they were about 16.

Just as Victorian children wore long drawers, the mysterious "combinations", liberty bodices, petticoats with lace on Sundays, flannel petticoats at other times (good for stopping trains with) frocks, aprons over them, Sunday suits and general smart clothes made of velvet on Sundays, lace collars. Button boots, socks with garters. They had an endless war against smuts on their faces. I didn't know what smuts were.

And in the 30s little girls also had tarletan frocks with frills on for dancing in and shiny dance shoes with white ankle socks. No idea what tarletan is. School uniform included felt hats with hat bands in school colours and sailor hats in summer. Little boys wore hard wearing tweed suits with shorts, shirts and ties and school caps. Everyone always had handkerchiefs all the time. All boys carried a penknife and all girls carried a pencil stub.

Clothes had to be made and cared for differently too, and I understood that until the 50s frills might be whipped, collars could be starched, frocks might be basted, darts might be put in things, hems might be let down (if velvet, this didn't work as the underneath velvet would be newer-looking and create a line, which was a shame). Until long after the 50s socks, jackets and other clothes would certainly be darned and patched and otherwise reinforced. Doing Mending was a thing, it could take up your time, was often expected of girls, sometimes you would even have to mend sheets and pillow cases, and the job included large baskets. I stress I had never, myself, done any of the above things or even seen them done!!

I have really enjoyed remembering all this and writing it here. I am sad to think that the rich cultural and social historical knowledge I imbibed PURELY from children's books might now be erased by bowlderising and updating.

With children reading less and less, even if books are not updated they will also have less exposure to these kinds of exciting yet confusing descriptions of clothes, food, homes and so on, that you had to puzzle out, from reading many books set in each era.

It's not the same to get a general impression of Holmes and Watson on screen with clothes and accessories, as it is to read "His stout Malacca cane" and try and imagine what the hell it looks like, its colour texture and purpose.

it's amazing how much you can pick up by osmosis from books without ever having been formally taught it.

I would only say that boys would have graduated to trousers a lot earlier than 16! probably about 12/13, when they would have left 'prep' to go to their final school.

If you look back on photos of UC/MC school uniform from any time from Victorian to 1950s, by the time they are at Eton or whatever they're in trousers.

HonoriaBulstrode · 14/06/2026 13:26

There was the intermediate stage of knickerbockers - knee breeches. In original illustrations to E Nesbit's books, small boys aged up to about ten wear long shorts and have bare knees. Older boys wear knickerbockers and long stockings. The transition to long trousers would have come at 13/14 - for wc boys, when they left school and went to work.

I think knickerbockers for boys died out by the 1920s.They were still worn by adult men for country pursuits. And boys still wore shorts in holidays.

EasilyPleased · 14/06/2026 13:56

Anyone interested in Victorian clothes, or laundry, or mourning, or visiting cards or little domestic details that are sometimes puzzling in 19thc fiction, should read Judith Flanders’s The Victorian House.

JaneJeffer · 14/06/2026 13:59

SaffySaffron · 13/06/2026 07:12

Oh yes, you often get a muscle twitching in blokes' jaws when they're getting annoyed. Never seen it myself.

They do this on Emmerdale Grin

TellingBone · 14/06/2026 16:52

JaneJeffer · 14/06/2026 13:59

They do this on Emmerdale Grin

😂Cain's always at it

EasilyPleased · 14/06/2026 17:29

JaneJeffer · 14/06/2026 13:59

They do this on Emmerdale Grin

I miss Emmerdale Farm, when Annie Sugden could suck all the joy out of the world with a single scowl, and all the plots were about lambing and agricultural misery and clearly copied from The Riordans.

merryhouse · 14/06/2026 21:34

I know it's not real life any more than novels are, but there's Noel Coward's song Don't Let's be Beastly to the Germans

cheapskatemum · 20/06/2026 00:08

Just read the mild insult “Twerp” in a book & realised I haven’t heard anyone say it since my childhood (DDad in particular).

Gateappreciation · 20/06/2026 05:11

Fifthtimelucky · 12/06/2026 10:09

It was very common when I was a teenager in the 1970s (in Somerset), though, had I ever been called upon to do so, I’ve have written “wotcha”!

A PP mentioned “penny for your thoughts”. My grandfather (who died in the 1970s) used that quite often.

On the subject of curly hair, surely people with curly hair always used to use hairbrushes before wide-tooth combs became popular? My mother had very curly hair and always used a brush and a “normal” comb.

‘Penny for your thought’ - haven’t heard that for ages. I have used it though.

in the book I’m I reading, it’s twice referred to ‘killing the power’ referring to cars. It’s an American book, but it stuck out at me.

SaffySaffron · 26/06/2026 17:53

New book. Woman lifting her chin on defiance. I must learn this move, seems I'm missing out.

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