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ShellacB · 17/09/2025 10:28

There seem to be plenty of old Chalet School Threads, but I can't find a current one.

In the middle of a re read. I have just finished the Tyrolean and Herefordshire ones. I loved them!

I do remember the Swiss books not being quite of the same quality, so not sure whether to read them all.

Could anyone recommend the best Swiss books if I was to skim through?

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ByLimeAnt · 31/08/2026 12:39

BallybunionTao · 31/08/2026 12:22

Yes, it's particularly odd in that she's absolutely babied by everyone at the school from the moment she arrives! There's that moment when they pull back the blanket (Miss Maynard must have the strength of an ox, as she appears to have carried a sleeping six year old in her arms the entire way from Spartz to the ferry landing!) and it's all 'such a lovely baby face', and bathing her in a baby bath in the dormitory, as though she's a toddler at most.

I mean, Amy Stevens was only eight when she started at the CS in its first week or two of existence, and no one seems to have been babying her to anywhere near the same extent.

EBD is fascinated by children who have lived exclusively with adults, but she has some deeply inconsistent strategies for explaining their behaviour in relation to those adults. You have the Robin, who behaves as though she is much younger than her age until she's into her teens. (How old is she when they flee Austria in Exile? -- because people are still carrying her on their shoulders like a doll!)

You have Polly Heriot, who is dying to be a madcap schoolgirl after an upbringing by elderly guardians.

You have Verity, who is prim and proper and disapproves of modern children, after being brought up by two elderly people and a governess who was in her 70s.

You have Eustacia (whose parents are older as well as a scholar and a medic), who is also prim and proper, but in a scholarly way.

And maybe rather more oddly, you have Mary-Lou, essentially brought up by her grandmother, as her mother is a wet lettuce, who apparently was a 'quiet little puss' before meeting Clem and Tony, after which she turns into a tomboy but still 'doesn't like girls'.

Ah, yes. Eustacia who had a personality transplant after injuring her back.

Think EBD had read "What Katy Did" too many times.

Oh yes, and pretty much forced by Joey to change her name ffs

BallybunionTao · 31/08/2026 12:41

EmpressaurusKitty · 31/08/2026 12:31

I mean, Amy Stevens was only eight when she started at the CS in its first week or two of existence, and no one seems to have been babying her to anywhere near the same extent.

Juliet bathed Amy though, didn’t she?

She does, but when someone (Grizel?) is surprised at Juliet helping Amy out offering to help with dressing after the bath, Joey says something dismissive about someone having to help her because 'You know what a perfect baby she is', which suggests she thinks Amy should be able to manage on her own.

I mean it's 'baby' used in a mildly pejorative sense, not the Engelkind!

BallybunionTao · 31/08/2026 12:42

ByLimeAnt · 31/08/2026 12:39

Ah, yes. Eustacia who had a personality transplant after injuring her back.

Think EBD had read "What Katy Did" too many times.

Oh yes, and pretty much forced by Joey to change her name ffs

I'm just imagining Cousin Helen arriving at the Chalet School, all saintly, and going on about the School of Pain. Grin

EmpressaurusKitty · 31/08/2026 12:58

There was never any suggestion that Jo’s frequent illnesses made her more saintly, was there?

ByLimeAnt · 31/08/2026 13:55

BallybunionTao · 31/08/2026 12:42

I'm just imagining Cousin Helen arriving at the Chalet School, all saintly, and going on about the School of Pain. Grin

She'd slot right in. Probably arrive clutching her vase.

Tickingcrocodile · 31/08/2026 14:11

I have enjoyed reading this thread. I had all the books up to Exile as a child and also read Three Go but hadn't read any of the other books. I've just re-read all the Tyrol and wartime ones up to Jo to the Rescue. The originals are quite different to the Armada versions I read. So many of the characters smoke! I really enjoyed Jo to the Rescue because it was so nice to catch up with the original schoolgirl characters, although I can imagine it was a bit for some younger readers (a lot of time seems to be dedicated to Stephen's teeth).
The continuity errors are much more apparent as an adult reader.

Can I ask, is Tom Tackles the Chalet school actually chronologically next after Jo to the Rescue, rather than Three Go to the Chalet School?

Catsknowbest · 31/08/2026 14:13

Tickingcrocodile · 31/08/2026 14:11

I have enjoyed reading this thread. I had all the books up to Exile as a child and also read Three Go but hadn't read any of the other books. I've just re-read all the Tyrol and wartime ones up to Jo to the Rescue. The originals are quite different to the Armada versions I read. So many of the characters smoke! I really enjoyed Jo to the Rescue because it was so nice to catch up with the original schoolgirl characters, although I can imagine it was a bit for some younger readers (a lot of time seems to be dedicated to Stephen's teeth).
The continuity errors are much more apparent as an adult reader.

Can I ask, is Tom Tackles the Chalet school actually chronologically next after Jo to the Rescue, rather than Three Go to the Chalet School?

No, Tom was originally I believe only published in the CS magazine/periodical so it actually fits in much further back, I forget exactly where though believe just near end or post WW2 timeline but someone here will definitely know exactly where

MissyB1 · 31/08/2026 14:37

Three Go is one of my favourite Chalet books. I would love for a few more of the books to have stayed in “Armishire” which is my favourite era of the whole series.

HonoriaBulstrode · 31/08/2026 14:52

I mean, even given that childhood illnesses were more common and more potentially serious when she was writing, EBD does fetishise illness.

Her own brother died when he was 17 and she was 18. Having so many characters (including Janie) recover from near-death illnesses probably reflects some deep wishful thinking on her part. And her sickbed descriptions possibly based on RL experience.

Though as her brother was 17 in 1912, had he lived he would no doubt have ended up on the Western Front.

I think she produced some of her highest quality writing in terms of plot etc, in that period between 1938 and 1948 when she was also running a school!

I agree that EBD was at her peak in that period. She probably couldn't have published more than she did - paper was rationed, so publishers were very restricted in what they could do.

She does, but when someone (Grizel?) is surprised at Juliet helping Amy out offering to help with dressing after the bath, Joey says something dismissive about someone having to help her because 'You know what a perfect baby she is', which suggests she thinks Amy should be able to manage on her own.

I think Jo is dismissive because she knows Juliet's circumstances and why she is helping Amy, and doesn't want Grizel to keep going on about it. (A rare example of Joey showing tact and discretion!)

BallybunionTao · 31/08/2026 15:01

Catsknowbest · 31/08/2026 14:13

No, Tom was originally I believe only published in the CS magazine/periodical so it actually fits in much further back, I forget exactly where though believe just near end or post WW2 timeline but someone here will definitely know exactly where

Beth Chester is Head Girl, is all I remember, and Daisy Venables is games prefect, writing to Robin in her first year at Oxford about the 'problem new girl'?

BallybunionTao · 31/08/2026 15:03

HonoriaBulstrode · 31/08/2026 14:52

I mean, even given that childhood illnesses were more common and more potentially serious when she was writing, EBD does fetishise illness.

Her own brother died when he was 17 and she was 18. Having so many characters (including Janie) recover from near-death illnesses probably reflects some deep wishful thinking on her part. And her sickbed descriptions possibly based on RL experience.

Though as her brother was 17 in 1912, had he lived he would no doubt have ended up on the Western Front.

I think she produced some of her highest quality writing in terms of plot etc, in that period between 1938 and 1948 when she was also running a school!

I agree that EBD was at her peak in that period. She probably couldn't have published more than she did - paper was rationed, so publishers were very restricted in what they could do.

She does, but when someone (Grizel?) is surprised at Juliet helping Amy out offering to help with dressing after the bath, Joey says something dismissive about someone having to help her because 'You know what a perfect baby she is', which suggests she thinks Amy should be able to manage on her own.

I think Jo is dismissive because she knows Juliet's circumstances and why she is helping Amy, and doesn't want Grizel to keep going on about it. (A rare example of Joey showing tact and discretion!)

Well, yes, she's trying to shut Grizel down, but my point is that she'd never have said that the Robin was 'a perfect baby' in that 'It's a bit of a nuisance when we're in a hurry to serenade Madge' way.

Catsknowbest · 31/08/2026 15:07

Re Tom Tackles, found this online:

The Chalet School
HonoriaBulstrode · 31/08/2026 15:10

No, Tom was originally I believe only published in the CS magazine/periodical so it actually fits in much further back, I forget exactly where though believe just near end or post WW2 timeline but someone here will definitely know exactly where

It comes after Gay in the school timeline. Miss A. Is still off following the bus accident. So it should have followed Rescue in publication order. The series timeline is out of sync with the war timeline, but it should be set in 1944 or 45, I think. (I think it's a spring term book).

I wonder if EBD had written it but couldn't get it published due to the wartime paper rationing. (Good article about the rationing here: https://davidjury.com/writings/publishing-in-the-uk-during-the-second-world-war/)

David Jury is an author, editor, and designer of books concerning typography, printing and graphic design.

Publishing in the UK during the Second World War

It used to be said that publishing always flourished during a war; time can weigh heavily on people who have either been uprooted from, or confined to,…

https://davidjury.com/writings/publishing-in-the-uk-during-the-second-world-war

Tickingcrocodile · 31/08/2026 15:21

Thanks all. It mentions in Rescue that Robin is just off to Oxford so that seems to fit with the timeline.

ShellacB · 01/09/2026 12:18

HonoriaBulstrode · 31/08/2026 15:10

No, Tom was originally I believe only published in the CS magazine/periodical so it actually fits in much further back, I forget exactly where though believe just near end or post WW2 timeline but someone here will definitely know exactly where

It comes after Gay in the school timeline. Miss A. Is still off following the bus accident. So it should have followed Rescue in publication order. The series timeline is out of sync with the war timeline, but it should be set in 1944 or 45, I think. (I think it's a spring term book).

I wonder if EBD had written it but couldn't get it published due to the wartime paper rationing. (Good article about the rationing here: https://davidjury.com/writings/publishing-in-the-uk-during-the-second-world-war/)

As it was originally serialised in The Chalet School books for Girls, it may well have been deliberate not to print it as a standalone book initially as it may have encourages sales for those.

Even with Tom in the middle there is still a sizeable gap in the story before Three. It fits in directly after Jo to the Rescue and I think that the triplets go from being three (although they probably should be four) in Jo to the Rescue to eight in three! I am sure that that is the longest gap in years between any Chalet School book...

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HonoriaBulstrode · 01/09/2026 12:59

I had a skim read of Tom yesterday. It's definitely set after Gay, because Hilda is still recovering from her head injury, and the triplets are four, so it should be spring 1944, but various things happen which couldn't have happened if it was wartime.

Janie Steps In is another oddity. The action takes place in the gap in the middle of Exile, and when the characters are mentioned in Exile it's as if the reader is expected to know who they are. But it wasn't published until 1953, and there are things mentioned which couldn't happen if it really was 1938/39.

EmpressaurusKitty · 01/09/2026 14:06

I found Janie really annoying. She seemed meant to be so modern & madcap, but she was proud of obeying her husband & took it for granted that the oldest daughter in a family would help with the housework etc - perfectly reasonable but you know she’d never expect it from the oldest son.

ShellacB · 01/09/2026 14:09

MissyB1 · 31/08/2026 14:37

Three Go is one of my favourite Chalet books. I would love for a few more of the books to have stayed in “Armishire” which is my favourite era of the whole series.

After Tyrol, Armiford is my second favourite location. Based more on the quality of the books than the location itself.

Armiford was, of course, based on Hereford, where EBD's real life school was located and presumably she moved the Chalet School shortly after she had to close down her own school.

I would presume that the intention had been to relocate to Tyrol and then the political situation made that impossible, hence she moved the school to the island and later Switzerland to try to recreate the exotic vibes of the earliest books.

The latter two destinations never worked as well as the first two, in my opinion, possibly because they were completely fictional, whereas Briesau and Armiford were fictional names for real places.

Re location I always found it odd that EBD kept part of the school in the UK after the Switzerland books and then never wrote a single book about the UK branch!

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HonoriaBulstrode · 01/09/2026 14:31

Re location I always found it odd that EBD kept part of the school in the UK after the Switzerland books and then never wrote a single book about the UK branch!

I always thought that in the real world it would have made more sense for Miss Wilson to take over the UK branch. She was wasted at St Mildred's. But I suppose EBD didn't want to lose her from the series, even though she gave her very little to do.

And in Challenge, it would have made more sense for Miss W. to take over the school and someone else to step up at St Mildred's. But that wouldn't have made so much of a story, since Miss W. had done it before and it wouldn't have been a challenge for her.

IthinkIsawahairbrushbackthere · 01/09/2026 17:56

I am part way through Feud and am losing interest. I have read all the books in order since the middle of May but am losing the will to carry on now.

I too can't understand why the Welsh branch of the school continues to get the odd mention but nothing about the coming of age celebrations there or anything of any significance. Same with the chapels - all the talk about raising funds and who was giving what then suddenly the chapels are dedicated in a space of 48 hours with no account of the services or anything.

My favourite books are definitely Tyrol and Armiford. As someone from Pembrokeshire where there are islands with a monastery and bird sanctuaries I dislike the fictional island that makes no sense.

EmpressaurusKitty · 01/09/2026 18:32

HonoriaBulstrode · 01/09/2026 14:31

Re location I always found it odd that EBD kept part of the school in the UK after the Switzerland books and then never wrote a single book about the UK branch!

I always thought that in the real world it would have made more sense for Miss Wilson to take over the UK branch. She was wasted at St Mildred's. But I suppose EBD didn't want to lose her from the series, even though she gave her very little to do.

And in Challenge, it would have made more sense for Miss W. to take over the school and someone else to step up at St Mildred's. But that wouldn't have made so much of a story, since Miss W. had done it before and it wouldn't have been a challenge for her.

How old was Bill at that point? After all the trauma of Exile I wonder if she wanted something a bit less demanding.

MissyB1 · 01/09/2026 18:37

IthinkIsawahairbrushbackthere · 01/09/2026 17:56

I am part way through Feud and am losing interest. I have read all the books in order since the middle of May but am losing the will to carry on now.

I too can't understand why the Welsh branch of the school continues to get the odd mention but nothing about the coming of age celebrations there or anything of any significance. Same with the chapels - all the talk about raising funds and who was giving what then suddenly the chapels are dedicated in a space of 48 hours with no account of the services or anything.

My favourite books are definitely Tyrol and Armiford. As someone from Pembrokeshire where there are islands with a monastery and bird sanctuaries I dislike the fictional island that makes no sense.

The move to the island was so random and pointless. Im sure they could have found another big house on the mainland.

HonoriaBulstrode · 01/09/2026 19:30

How old was Bill at that point? After all the trauma of Exile I wonder if she wanted something a bit less demanding.

Early forties. In New, she told Jo she was thirty, and Jo was around 18 then. The triplets turned ten in the term covered by Oberland, which makes Jo 30/31 then, so Bill 42/43.

Hilda had the serious head injury which kept her away from school for a year, yet she was up to the challenge of moving the main school to Switzerland, and I think Nell was tougher than Hilda.

The move to the island was so random and pointless. Im sure they could have found another big house on the mainland.

I suppose the move to the island was to give the opportunity for adventures with boats. There wasn't much scope for adventures in Armishire - no lake and no mountains.

I'm not so fond of the Island setting, though I do like some of the books.

EmpressaurusKitty · 01/09/2026 20:26

Early forties. In New, she told Jo she was thirty, and Jo was around 18 then. The triplets turned ten in the term covered by Oberland, which makes Jo 30/31 then, so Bill 42/43.

That definitely doesn’t sound like the explanation, then.

Phphion · 01/09/2026 20:35

ShellacB · 01/09/2026 12:18

As it was originally serialised in The Chalet School books for Girls, it may well have been deliberate not to print it as a standalone book initially as it may have encourages sales for those.

Even with Tom in the middle there is still a sizeable gap in the story before Three. It fits in directly after Jo to the Rescue and I think that the triplets go from being three (although they probably should be four) in Jo to the Rescue to eight in three! I am sure that that is the longest gap in years between any Chalet School book...

Edited

Mystery and Rosalie also fit in that gap.

I think Mystery was originally in the first Chalet Book for Girls and Rosalie was presumably supposed to be in the fourth one. Somewhat confusingly, because they were so short Armada published Mystery and Rosalie at one time as a single paperback, despite the events of Tom happening in between them.

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