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To those who have succeeded on Paul Mckenna does it ever get easy to eat consciously?

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dalek · 26/01/2009 14:19

I have seen some old threads where people have done well using PM system - are you still following the rules and is it easy to eat consciously now?

TIA
x

PS - Did anyone go to the seminar on saturday?

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sweetheart · 05/02/2009 13:49

Afternoon all,

I have just had a call from the PM seminar people to say that he is doing another one on 28th March at Wemberley Staduim (in a conference room, not the stadium!).

The price is £250 each + Vat but she did mention group discounts!

Did anyone go to the last one? I may go for it - it's my birtdahy the week before so I could get it as a present maybe.

Lastyearsmodel · 05/02/2009 14:22

£250! How much must he make in a day!?

I bet you do come out very motivated though. And if you can afford it and it helps you, then it would be worth it for a lot of people to give you that extra boost to success.

We're almost snowed in today .

The leftovers thing is happening here too, but I still cook too much. This is almost definitely tmi but I'm not going as regularly as I used to either - once every other day . Anyone else unashamed enough to share whether that's happening to them too?

Also noticed I'm eating more fat but less food overall, and my usually dry scalp is not nearly as bad. Strange but true.

sweetheart · 05/02/2009 14:43

LYM - ha ha - thanks for sharing! I ahve to say I do know when I am being healthy as I too become more ,uhummmm, regular!

I have also noticed that I can eat 2 takeaways at the weekend and still loose weight! Amazing!

dalek · 05/02/2009 16:39

LYM - I too am less regular - thought it was because I was eating less.

Sweetheart - I would say go for it - have it as a birthday present

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sweetheart · 05/02/2009 16:44

well I'm hoping that by March I won't need it becuase I will have been doing it for 3 months a i will be a slim jim

dalek · 06/02/2009 12:50

Hi everyone - was starving last night so ended up eating cheese and biscuits and chocolate - feel fat today but if I analyse it I don't think i ate THAT much but just feels a lot - did try to eat it consciously though.

Anyway - having a bit of a strange time - am doing it with a friend who I haven't been able to speak to for a few days and I asked her how she was getting on - she said not very well at all and suddenly I was like if she's not doing it then neither am I, then i was thinking I don't want her to feel bad for not doing it I'd better eat this chocolate. AM I MAD? I should be doing this for me - I am sure PM would have a field day trying to work out what's going on in my head - I sure as hell have no idea.

Hope you're all getting on better than me.

xx

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sweetheart · 06/02/2009 12:58

dalek - PM does say something about this and I don't have my book to hand, I'm sure he puts it much more elequently than me but basically what he says is:-

What he is asking you to think about is natural - thin people don't "do" anything to be thin they just are because they eat naturally.

By saying you are not doing "IT" you mean you are going to do something else - watch what you eat, think about calories or points or fat intake etc etc etc.

By changing your eating habits to fit a diet you are doing something - more so than if you do PM system because he is not telling you to do something. He is not telling you to only eat so many poiints, or calories etc

So by doing PM you are actually already not doing "IT"

Does that make any sense????????? I don't think I've worded it very well!

I had a breakthrough last night. I was unsettled - bored! I decided a cup of tea and one choc biscuit would satisfy me so I made a cup of tea and opened the cupboard. The I relised I wasn't hungry and one biscuit would NOT satisfy me because I was bored!

So instead I played a game with my ds and then I was fine.

How amaxing - now if only I could get it to stick 24/7!

Keep up the good work everyone!

dalek · 06/02/2009 13:13

Well done sweetheart - and thanks for the support.

You're right - it was the right thing to eat when I was hungry, eat what I wanted and then stop. That's what thin people do! Boredom is definitely the biggest problem.

Weigh in tomorrow - wish me luck.

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sweetheart · 06/02/2009 14:03

GOOD LUCK!!! Stick with it, you'll do great!

My weigh in is Monday so fingers crossed. I seem to have eaten alot this week so we'll see. I actually had a sneeky weigh yesterday, not sure what came over me!

Lastyearsmodel · 06/02/2009 17:15

How often is everyone weighing?

I was doing once a week after the initial fortnight but haven't weighed lately cos it feels, I dunno, a bit like it won't do me any good. Does that make sense? Like, if I've lost, I'll be happy and motivated, but in the past a loss one week has made me think 'oh, I can eat more then'. And if I haven't lost I'll be all downhearted anyway.

Has anyone beaten the regular weighing demons?

There was a thread a little while ago from someone who was doing PM, hadn't weighed themselves for a year and had lost 3 stone. Can't for the life of me remember who it was...

sweetheart · 06/02/2009 17:27

LYM - I am weighing weekly which is massive progress for me. i was so obsessed that I was weighing at least once a day as soon as I got out of bed and went for a wee. Sometimes I would weigh in the evening too.

I had a slight slip this week but other than that since new year I have weighed once a week. I am going to try and reduce it even more but I am going on holiday in 8 weeks and I have a "target weight" to hit. Hopefully once I'm home I can put my demons to bed for good!

dalek · 09/02/2009 12:18

Feeling disappointed - weighed on saturday morning - had lost less than 2 pounds in 2 weeks - was very fed up.

But have been thinking about it - have been eating what i want and still lost, including a curry the night before the weigh in. Have massive chocolate cravings due to impending period. Have been out to dinner four time in last fortnight - all in all not too bad - would love to have lost more but that's life.

Oh and have noticed that as soon as I eat unconsciously (telly on) I eat loads without realising but when I eat consciously and drink water with meal and slow down cannot even finish one slice of toast with fried egg - guess I know what I need to do

Sorry for the ramble

How is everyone else?

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sweetheart · 09/02/2009 14:14

dalek - that is still good that you lost weight - esp considering you have been out for dinner and stuff too. I think what you should ask yourself is if you hadn't been following PM these last 2 weeks would you have eaten the same meals but put weight on?

I stayed the same this week but that's ok. I had a disasterious week what with the snow days and I also had an indian takeaway, a sausage bacon and egg bap for breakfast the other morning, a full sunday roast with pudding etc etc etc the list goes on and on and I am actually over the moon to relise I can indulge in food I love WITHOUT putting on weight!!!!! I would NEVER in a million years eaten those things on a "diet"!

I also used the scales at the gym today and they say my BMI fat thing has gone down to 21% which it hasn't been for AGES!!!!! I'm usually up over the 25% which takes me from a healthy weight to overweight.

All in all I am still loving PM. I may have to slow my eating a bit but I have also found I only need a small amount of food to be full. The trick for me is eating something that will satisfy me otherwise I get cravings.

How is everyone else doing? Keep us updated!

PenguinProject · 09/02/2009 14:40

Hi - This thread is so motivating, can I join you? I started PM a little while ago and loved it, but then stopped listening to the CD and started eating when not hungry again etc...

I do find it embarassing that I find "eat when you are hungry, don't eat when you're not hungry" so revolutionary.

So, will re-read the book today and listen to the CD tonight. See you tomorrow!

dalek · 09/02/2009 15:23

Welcome PP and good luck.

Sweetheart - you are right - if I'd done all the things I had and not been following system I would definitely have put on. Also like you I need to eat something I really want otherwise I find myself wandering about trying to fill the space.

Good luck everyone.

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whomovedmychocolate · 09/02/2009 16:03

Well good news and bad news from this end. I've had really bad joint pain and headaches after a rash and DH was really worried I had the plague.

DD (2) and DS (6 months) both have chickenpox. I've had chickenpox once as a child and once as an adult (five years ago) and now apparently I have shingles.

At last I have a reason for the constant headache and joint pain and I will get better (not only that but MiL can't visit me till I'm non-contagious hurrah!)

I've only lost a couple of pounds in the last few weeks but as those fiends in the blue store say every little helps

Also I only have another 10lbs to go. So I'm on the home stretch.

We went to Frankie and Benny's (wretched place) and I had fish and DD had my chips. Didn't want to eat her ice cream - didn't even think about it. Order fish and chips because that was what I fancied instead of saying 'I'll have salad because it's good for me even though I don't like it very much'

My jeans fell down on Saturday

Got to run, DS just woke up!

sweetheart · 09/02/2009 18:41

Welcome back PP and good luck!

Dalek - great to relise you are loosing weight AND having what you want - well done and keep it up!

WMMC - SHINGLES! You poor thing! make sure you get lots of rest and take care of yourself, it can be so painful!

Well done on the weight loss too! I have about 5Ibs to go and 8 weeks till holiday so fingers crossed!

Right, dinner is cooked, better dash!
GOOD LUCK EVERYONE!

dalek · 09/02/2009 19:49

Flipping Heck WMMC - yours jeans fell down - that's never happened tome in my life - not even when I lost 3 stone on lighterlife. Am very but very pleased for you. But feeling sorry for you due to the shingles.

Sweetheart - I have every faith that you will do it.

Speak soon.

Dalek
xxx

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sweetheart · 09/02/2009 19:57

dalek - remind me how much you are hoping to loose?

dalek · 09/02/2009 20:17

A couple of stone - is that realistic? - that would take me down to 9 and a half stone - and I'm very short so will still not be skinny but would be very happy to be that weight.

I'm sure you've already said but how much have you lost and how long did it take?

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sweetheart · 09/02/2009 21:30

2 stone is perfectly reasonable so long as you are not planning on loosing it in 2 months!

I have lost 10Ib doing PM since New Year which was weight I'd put on over the xmas break. I'd like to loose up to another half stone but it will never happen - I just don't think I'm made to go that small.

If I can maintain where I am I'd be happy. I have lost about 3.5 stone in the last few years so I know how you are feeling now. It's so worth the effort to get the weight off and keep it off.

whomovedmychocolate · 09/02/2009 22:54

Dalek, I've lost a pound shy of two stone in five weeks.

But I have that sort of body, I gain weight and lose it exceptionally quickly to start with. The first week of any diet I lose ten pounds! In this respect I appreciate I am a lucky cow! However the last ten pounds I have to go....oh so very slow it will be!

But the point is, it doesn't really matter. This is not a diet diet, this is about me learning to eat appropriately for ever and that's a blardy long time!

I realised you know that the reason I really pile on the weight in pregnancy is not because pregnancy makes you fat (much) but that once I know I'm pregnant I want to look pregnant so I eat too much and also a bit of me felt like 'I've held back and felt deprived for so long - unwarranted since I was overeating anyway but bear with me - now I shall have that cake and bugger the rest of you ner ner!' . Silly I know, but I actually think that's what I thought.

Now I look back at that and think I must have been slightly nuts! It's like the 'last one in the packet thing' you know where there is one biscuit left, or one square of chocolate and you just think 'well may as well eat it to save throwing it away/putting it in the cupboard'. That's crazy - we are not waste food disposal units but that's how I've treated my body in the past. I used to kid myself I was doing something good by not wasting food but given that food is fuel, I was actually wasting it by converting it into unneeded and unwanted fat.

Sweetheart I know what you mean about your body having an inbuilt calibrated weight that it tries to achieve. There is a lot of scientific evidence for this which suggests that most women are naturally around a size 12.

For me, if I go down to 10st I'm a size 8. I'm not particularly tall but I am particularly heavy for my size. I guess it's a muscle thing - I'm strong - the point is, I've been 9 stone and was a size 6 - and it didn't look good on me. I'm quite happy to get to 10st and stick there. Otherwise I'll have problems buying clothes.

I just did a journal page tonight which asked me to list all the bad things about being overweight and then all the good things about being slim and healthy for life and it was really enlightening because it's not till you've got a way down the road you realise all the bizarre things you've got going on in your brain which make no sense regarding weight but that you've just picked up over the years.

I remember eating the chocolate off chocolate biscuits (doesn't count right? ).

Or eating vast quantities of vegetables on weightwatchers because they had no points in (god I must have smelled BAD!)

Who else has a mad thing they used to do in the name of dieting?

sweetheart · 10/02/2009 09:22

WMMC - I could fill a book with all the stupid diet things I have done / learnt in the past! And, quite like you, that is WHY I'm doing PM.

I have a unhealthy relationship with food - one I DO NOT want to pass to my kids! My dd is 8 and already things have rubbed off on her - I'm hoping it's not to late to reverse these things!

I am about 5'5" and currently at 10St. That makes me an 8-10 on my top and a 10-12 on my bottom (I have a heridetary large rump! )

I did get down to 9St 10Ib a couple of years ago and some people said I looked great and others said I looked awful. I would love to make it down to 9St 7Ib but like I said the other day - I think my body is just programmed to be 10St or there abouts which I used to hate but I have come to accept and be ok with! All part of the PM technique of loving what you've got.

How are you feeling today WMMC? Hope the shingles aren't getting you down too much.

Dalek - more positive today? You are doing great, you can stick with it and achieve your goals!

PP - How have your first couple of days been - finding it ok so far?

LYM - How are you doing? Still ok?

whomovedmychocolate · 10/02/2009 11:15

Hi Sweetheart - bloody sodding DS kept me up all night with his wailing and farting (I have no idea what's going on with him but he's not very popular this morning! Especially as at 6am I got DH up to take over and he promptly fell asleep! )

Shingles are a bit painful, my joints hurt a lot but I'm happily drugged up so not too aware.

Can't believe I've only been doing this little over a month, feels like ages so I must be getting there. I'm going to stick at 10st when I get there (8 and a bit pounds to go now). I don't want to go much smaller than that - I reckon the clothes have got bigger though these days. Because I swear to you 10st used to be a 12!

PenguinProject · 10/02/2009 14:49

WMMC - LOL at vegetables. If a diet allows me something then I binge on it, be it fruit, veg, meat, cheese, whatever. I have done so many mad things re: eating/dieting, etc. Here's some diets I have tried:
Lighter life
W8
Atkins
Other low carb
Cabbage Soup
F Plan
Weight Watchers
Rosemary Conley
Calorie Counting
Low fat
Grapefruit diet
Boiled egg diet
Online diets
OA
And some of these have worked for a while, but obviously not very well because I'm on this thread! What I liked about PM was it helped me eat normally (not restrictively or obsessively). As much as I want to lose weight (and I do!), I want to lose the obsessive attitude I have towards food and my weight even more, hopefully this will help.
Previously I lost weight doing this, about 3lb a week, but I got seduced by other diets promising bigger weight losses and tried them instead.
Anyway, just over the last 24 hours knowing I can eat anything I want is liberating. Sod the weight loss (yeah, right!), not being obsessed is pretty darn good for me.