To those who have succeeded on Paul Mckenna does it ever get easy to eat consciously?

[dalek]

I have seen some old threads where people have done well using PM system - are you still following the rules and is it easy to eat consciously now?

TIA
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PS - Did anyone go to the seminar on saturday?

Which craving buster do you have - the one with the human hair suggestion (boak) or the easier one?

I just moved a heavy table and bench from the cabin at the end of the garden to the house, then realised 'fuck me I'm subconsciously choosing to exercise'

lol - excercise is good - it's not the enemy!

There are two in my book - a tapping technique where you tap pulse points and then one where you visulize hair and stuff whilst squeexing your fingers together.

I struggled at lunch today - I ate half my duck wrap (yum yum) but didn't feel satisfied afterwards - not hungry but not happy - hmmm hard to explain. Anyway I let myself have a few crisps and that did the trick. I figure I wasn't hungry but I wasn't stuffed so I was still between 3 and 8 on the "hunger scale" Do you think that counts?

Is it possible your tastes are changing and something you thought would be scrummy was a bit blahhhhh?

I find that sometimes, I think 'yummy chips' then I have one and think 'yuck'. Perhaps it's because nothing is forbidden, it's taken the illicit thrill out of scoffing crap ?

I don't find the tapping techniques helpful, I think I must be wired differently. Is there anything you really want to give up forever? If so I'll tell you about the one I used and which accidentally stopped me eating chocolate?

Evening all,

wmmc Congratulations/commiserations on your dress! I am a loooong way from seeing that size label on any clothes I own. But I spose at 5'9" it might be a little unrealistic.

Thanks for the offer about the journal - I will sort out the CAT thing and get back to you.

I haven't clicked with the tapping thing either, but I don't have any specific cravings, other than the general urge to eat when tired/bored/stressy in the evenings.

Go on, tell us how you accidentally gave up chocolate... And will you be changing your name?

LYM - from the journal....

Craving Buster No.2

Before you do this exercise for the first time, read through all the steps. Remember, only do this technique if you want to stop eating a particular food for good.

1.Think of a food you hate ? one that really disgusts you. (A woman on one of my trainings who swore that she love to eat everything, finally agreed that she found the idea of eating human hair repulsive.)
2.?Next, I want you to vividly imagine there is a big plate of the food you hate in front of you. Now imagine smelling and then eating the food you hate, as you squeeze the thumb and little finger of either hand together. Really imagine the texture of it on your mouth as you squeeze your thumb and little finger together. Imagine the taste of it, squeezing your thumb and little finger together until you feel utterly revolted. When you are feeling a bit nauseous, stop and relax your fingers.
3.Next, I want you to think of the food that you are going to stop eating. When you think of it, notice that you can imagine what a plate of it looks like.
4.Now, make that picture of the food you like bigger and brighter. Make it bigger still, until it's bigger than you, then make it bigger than that. Continue making it bigger and bring it closer and closer and then pass it through you and out the other side. (Most people say it feels a bit weird to pass the picture through your body ? like when a ghost passes through a body in the Harry Potter stories.)
5.Ready? Squeeze your thumb and finger together and remember the taste of the food you hate, while at the same time imagining eating some of the food you like. Now, imagine the food you like is mixed in with the food you hate. Imagine eating the two foods together, the food you love and the food you hate. Keep imagining the taste and texture of the two together. Keep eating them in your mind, a big plate of them, swallowing them down, as you squeeze your thumb and little finger together. That's eat, eat even more, more and more until you can't eat any more and then stop.
6.Think about the food you used to like and notice how it's different now.

You can repeat this process as often as you like until you have completely eliminated your desire for that particular food. You will no longer be a slave to your cravings.

Hmm. Just sat and done that one, WMMC. Still feeling slightly nauseous.

Thanks ever so much for taking the time to post it all.

Can you get your dress taken in? I went from being biggish in my teens to slim in my 20s and I can remember the shock of realising clothes can look bad when they're too big. I mean, you feel great about it, but it's still annoying! I aim to know that feeling again.

Not really and it's the smallest size it came in too. Never mind, I have plenty of dresses. I can always give it to a friend.

Told you that craving buster worked - crikey if something can stop me liking chocolate, it's got to be good! You should save that for next time you want to go eat out - you definitely wouldn't overeat if you invested the dessert trolley with that sort of appeal!

Marla - the fact you are keeping on going is the hardest bit - you've done brilliantly.

Oh I drink tea like it's going out of fashion but I can live with that - I wouldn't worry about the squash unless it's nasty diet stuff.

Where does PM say to avoid sugar? Is it in the big set of CDs? Cos I haven't got those. Worried I might be missing good stuff...

Is PM releasing remixes or something? Must be different versions of the CD. Could get DP to search among his downloading friends (although they're generally not patch on my virtual friends ).

I have skimmed milk in my tea and no sugar but have always been that way. The sugar bit is mysteriously missing from my versions . Obviously eating lots of sugar is dumb but a lot of good savoury dishes have sugar in!

Right, I've finally done it. Subscribed to MN. No going back now. Don't all CAT me at once, could cause a meltdown.

Something I've been wondering - is PM's emphasis on eating exactly what you want at odds with other parts of the book/cd where he talks about having control over what you eat and making healthy choices?

One of the things I initially liked about this way of eating is that it's your own body that tells you what you should eat, no one else. Makes perfect sense. How does everyone else feel about what they choose to eat?

One of the things which is frequently mentioned in my CDs is that if any parts of it are not for you, just ignore them. I think actually you need different things for different people. You see, if you know bog all about food it's probably necessary to hear that you shouldn't eat sugar. Whereas smart folks like us can work that out on our own and make smart decisions

wow you guys were chatty last night.

I feel I have made some progree - i went to a school quiz night last night and only ate some of the fish and chip supper (although I did drink a bottle of wine!)

There wa another part to your technique wmmc on the TV show - once you had taken away the desire for the certain food you have to replace the "high" that food gave you with a natural high so your supposed to think of something relaxing and enjoyable and squeeze the fingers on the other hand - mine is somewherenear a beach or a pool which is hot and sunny - feeling the sun warming my skin! I love doing that technique even if it's not food related - it gives me goose bumps!

Rightm best get sorted for the day - have a great day everyone!

Oh MS - great news on the bra - well done, keep up the slow eating

Chatty? Moi? Makes a change from catty I guess

Well I went shopping today and found some gorgeous t shirts in Ralph Lauren reduced in the sale to £5.99 each because they are extra small and where I live there don't seem to be a lot of small people .

I haven't seen this TV show - we don't get that channel (actually we scarcely get any reception at all because of where we are). But never mind.

I did discover last night that if you sign up to the online support service on the McKenna website for £50 you get all the CDs I have, the journal and access to the counselling service. But I don't really think I need to at this point.

Today I discovered that I was hungry and then thought 'oh well, it doesn't matter' . Yes I know that sounds like a small thing but even a week ago I would have worried that I was hungry and that I couldn't eat within two minutes of noticing I was hungry (three weeks ago I couldn't have even told you if I was hungry or not ). So I think that's progress.

Hello,

Sick kids here so fairly eurgh day but managing to eat consciously and enjoying not feeling full of food.

MS - ahhh, new bras, the joy of it. I'm still feeding DS (11mo) but have got myself one underwired bra and a couple of sports bras in the Figleaves sale (BOGOF on Shock Absorbers). I was always a 38 back even at my slimmest (have big Barbara Windsor-type ribs, I think) but have been a 40 since DS was born. WOuld be lovely to get back to a 38... I also have the urge to ramble .

Am so of you, WMMC, and your extra smallness. But you've worked for it! Sorry if asking you to repeat, but how long have you been PMing?

And why would we give an extra £50 to PM for counselling when we have MN?

SH - congratulations on your fish and chip victory. When I'm doing well on PM I have no urge to drink, but over Christmas I see that the extra booze was part of my undoing. It was a slow slide off the wagon.

I've been trying the visualisations more recently as I find them helpful. I do get confused about which fingers to use though. Doesn't seem to matter much.