To those who have succeeded on Paul Mckenna does it ever get easy to eat consciously?

[dalek]

I have seen some old threads where people have done well using PM system - are you still following the rules and is it easy to eat consciously now?

TIA
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PS - Did anyone go to the seminar on saturday?

Of course you can join in The more the merrier.

My DS is six months flourybaps, I had to have further surgery - I had a CS and they gave me an incisional hernia as a bonus so I know how you feel and I did comfort eat (chocolate took away the taste of diclofenac!)

I put on four stone first pregnancy and then lost it with Paul McKenna CDs then I put on two with this one and I have ten pounds or so left to go till I get to my pre-pregnancy weight and then I want to lose another six pounds or so to be a BMI of 23.

It doesn't take a lot of effort to do this - which is good. I find it fits in with my lifestyle but the one hard thing I find is managing to eat slowly and consciously when you have two little ones who both need help eating and one of whom is trying to escape after five short minutes . But I've started to eat separately from them now sometimes to avoid this situation.

Hi everyone. WMMC - you know how you're supposed to always leave something on your plate - do you sometimes deliberately put too much food on your plate so that you will leave some?

And do you drink lots of water/squash with and while you are eating your meal?

Which cds did you use? Just the one that comes with the book or some others as well?

TIA
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No I don't do that dalek - that's odd. I don't leave anything on my plate, I just put less on.

I do drink lots of water with food and I have started taking dissolvable vitamins from boots because you can dissolve them in a pint of water and it's really nice before lunch.

I have a five CD set plus journal. Plus I have four older weight loss CDs of his.

Ae the older ones any good? Did you find them effective?

In some ways they are - for example there is one on exercise which has helped me which you don't get with just the book. The newer version with five CDs is really good- you get two and a half hours worth of input each night if you run it off on your ipod and it's varied enough that you don't get bored of it.

But it's bloody expensive!

Can I join in too please. I did Paul Mckenna a couple of yrs ago in my school summer holidays (am a teacher) and I didn't weigh myself but reckon I lost a stone. DD is 8.5mths now and I weigh the same as I did pre DD but want to lose the stone or so I put on after I got married

The problem I find with doing this is a time factor. I think to myself, I'm not hungry now so I will eat later and then I get hungry just as DD wakes from her nap and we are on our way out so I grab something and stuff it in. I found it hard last time when I went back to work as I had to eat at set times whether I was hungry or not and I was always so rushed with things to do that it was hard just to sit down quietly and think about eating.

Any ideas how to do this with a baby and running around all the time?

It's hard pudding. I've got a six month old on one side and a two year old on the other - one of whom loves food and one of which doesn't - both need help eating. In between handing one a ricecake and trying to persuade the other to eat anything I'm trying to get a mouthful myself.

The only solution I have found is not to eat round them and wait till I have more help or they are zonked out. But I'm frequently finding I'm going shakey through lack of food because I've not realised I'm hungry

So I don't have a solution other than to prepare foods in advance that can be whacked in a microwave - we've had so much leftovers recently one meal tends to last till the next lunchtime - so that can help.

Ok. I will try and eat when DD is napping/playing rather than ramming it in while I am feeding her! Will see how it goes tomorrow.

Can I join too please? Was just beginning to lose DD's baby weight when I got pregnant with DS. He's now 11 months and I need to sort it out. 'It' being about 3 stone.

I began using PM's book and CD last summer and lost about 10lbs, but have fallen off the wagon. And the annoying thing is I didn't think there was even a wagon to fall off! The whole thing makes so much sense, but I've just slowly reverted to old eating patterns, and since Christmas I've been all over the place. Mornings are fine, but late afternoons and evenings I find it very hard to resist emotional eating. And I need to find a way of listening to the CD regularly as am having a few self-esteem/January-type wobbles. An mp3 player might be the way to go...

It would be lovely to do this alongside people who understand about life with small children.

Marla - glad to have helped

I find if I've got to the shakey stage, actually having a big drink helps stop me just diving in and eating madly. I am really into www.boots.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10052&productId=6354&callingViewName= &langId=-1&catalogId=11051 these Boots vitamin things in a pint of very cold water. I have the orange ones - but apparently they do other flavours. They are sort of sweet - but not quite.

I'm also finding the journal a huge help - it just forces me to sit down for five minutes every day (about now normally) to reflect on things.

But I'm finding it hard today. I've lost a lot of weight already and I look at my body and I don't know how it should be - I don't think I want to go back to my teenage weight and before I conceived DS I wasn't much less than I am now and I quite liked the size I was but I'm worried I could quite easily become obsessive on what size I should be and constantly wanting to be a little bit thinner

I think I'm having trouble trusting that my body knows the right weight for me because my brain seems not to . I'll get there. Just have to keep on.

I do believe 90 days is the thing - if you can do anything for 90 days, it's then part of your life.

Lastyearsmodel - welcome - come on in, don't mind the sticky marks on the sofa - we have toddlers!

wmmc y'know, it's funny you should mention sticky sofas. I've just dyed one of mine from beige (I know, what was I thinking) to dark brown. Not an awful result, not great, but that's a whole other thread.

Your posts are very inspiring because you're further down the road than me. But I can understand the worry around trusting your body to do what it wants to and not be overriden by the brain.

Also think I need to investigate the 90 day journal. I did the two-weeks not weighing yourself thing and thought I'd got it cracked. Apparently not. Off to listen to a CD in bed now.

Hi everyone. I went out for dinner last night and it was very difficult to eat consciously and to stop when I was full. Firstly the food was delicious and so I wanted to eat more, secondly there would have been an embarassingly large amount of food left on my plate if I'd stopped when I was full.

Also out on saturday - will have o practise again. Do you think it would be worth tapping to eat only as much as I need - just a thought.

I'm finding that weird too - the small amount of food that sometimes fills you up can leave a lot left on your plate, and your brain thinks 'that can't be right'. But I suppose we just need to come up with reasons/excuses to spare our blushes and avoid giving offence.

Can anyone talk to me about the 90 day journal? I don't have it, just the book and CD. Is it worth getting or could I do it just as well with a diary?

Finally a PM thread that is building some momentum - can I join please? I have been following PM for 3.5 weeks now, I read the book to start with and did really well for the first 2 weeks, had a bit of a slip up in week 3 and so I'm trying the cd at night time this week. So far I am loving my new found relaxation around food the most.

I have previously followed weight watchers for about the last 5/6 years with a gap for pregnancy and I lost about 3.5 stone with it but it has taught me lots of bad eating habits that I want to reverse!

Weight loss so far has been 7Ib - want to loose another 7 before my holiday in 9 weeks.

Hello sweetheart. Know what you mean about being relaxed around food now. I found as I slipped back into bad habits, the low-level anxiety came back around food. Now I'm back on top of things (1 day at a time...) I feel calmer. And I love that I feel it's a good attitude to eating to pass onto the DCs.

Going anywhere nice?

LYM - I know what you mean about the DC's - it's part of my reason for doing this. I don't want to pass my bad habits on - dd (8) has already made a comment about having fat knees so I plan to nip it in the bud!

We are off to Florida and I can't wait - but I want to be able to control my eating on holiday - yes I want a big burger and fries with grilled cheese and ice creams etc but if I'm full I also need to remember to stop eating!

I think I'm going to re-read the first chapter of the book to re-inforce the 4 golden rules and get back on track.

I'm also keeping a food diary - just not the PM one.

I have read some of the conversations and I agree it's not always easy doing this with a young family. We tend to eat when the kids are hungry which means I'm not - then by 8.30 - 9pm I am hungry and want to snack! How is everyone else doing with that sort of scenario?

When I was on track with this last year I found I was eating about 5 small meals/snacks a day, so I'd eat with the kids at about 5pm, then be hungry again in the evening. I would just eat something! I found I very easily mistake tiredness for hunger, so evenings could be tricky, but if it really was hunger, then I would eat toast.

Just back from the gym (only been going for 3 weeks) and eating toast and peanut butter.

So I had a big success today: I bought just before christmas a dress which I absolutely loved but which was only available in a size 10. It's from Debut, boned satin silk red, strapless, your average tinkerbell type dress. Anyway, when I bought it, I couldn't even get it over my bum easily.

Today it's too big

and also because I can't wear it now!

The journal - ah here's the kicker, you can only get it when you buy the big CD set with five CDs From QVC (the shopping channel with the scary presenters).

Incidentally I eat out a lot and I can tell you several strategies I use:

(1) You can get sharing platters and just not eat a lot (ooh yes, I'd love some garlic bread, who'd like to split some with me....no, no, you have some more, it's a bit salty for me)

(2) The waiting staff don't give a rats arse if you eat only a third of your meal and frankly if those dining with you make a comment on it, say 'feel free to eat it, I think the portion sizes are massive and I don't intend to be a lardarse because someone decided to buy oversized plates' or just treat them to a killer stare combined with a 'really, well I've enjoyed what I've eaten but I'm full now, you wouldn't want me to feel sick would you?'

(3) Doggy bag - not for the dog/cat. Most restaurants are delighted if you say 'this was marvellous but I'm absolutely stuffed - can you wrap it up for me? (I've been known to take a tuppaware pot to the curry house because I eat about a third of it and it does reheat pretty well!)

(4) Go for big meals with lower calories - soups, salads etc. Or pasta is good - you can easily cut the pasta dish in half with your fork and tell yourself that the rest is going home in a box with you, then you have technically finished it.

(5) Biggest one - GET OVER YOURSELF - if you look at the serving in front of you, that is designed to sate the appetite of a 20 stone bloke! You don't need or want to eat that much. It's okay! It's not compulsory to clear you plate. This is meant to be a pleasurable experience.

It's all me today isn't it

Oh I found out the dizziness for me isn't hunger. My GP took a blood sample today - I'm anaemic and have a virus - woopdy doo - more spatone for me then

WMMC - Well done - thats a fantastic achievement! I have also noticed that my clothes are feeling looser and I didn't need to get on the scales for that :-D

Thanks for the tips about eating out - I don't eat out too often but it's nice to know I can if I want - when I was following weight watchers I had to starve myself all week to save enough bloody point for a meal out! How do you deal with puddings by the way? I love to have a pudding when we're out but shurly if I'm full from my meal I can't really have one under the PM regime can I - boohoo!!!!!!!

Although having said that I am out to a school quiz night tongight with a fish and chip supper so I shall put it to the test

I don't tend to eat puddings but apparently the first two mouthfuls are the best bit so have one and don't eat it all unless you are hungry!

I did weight watchers, I felt like a cow going to market every week standing in line to be weighed.

Funnily enough, I've really gone off chocolate.

I did the craving buster and accidentally did the permanent one so now every time I think of chocolate I feel slightly nauseous. Mind you, it has helped me lose weight

Oh and lastyearsmodel about the diary/journal thing - yes you could just do a diary I guess, but you wouldn't get the 'thought for the day' bit. I could tell you what basically is on a page if you like (if you CAT me).

I haven't really had to use the craving thing yet alothough I can feel some creaping in - especially in the evenings.

I was supposed to be going to the gym this lunch time but I really can't be bothered and I now seem to have lots of running around to do. Not a great excuse is it! Still I have been 4 times this week so it's not too bad.