Here I am again, another summer and still fucking FAT.

[Lostinplaces]

Will I ever do it I wonder? 41 this year and still a fat fucker. Every year I promise myself I will not be obese for another year. FFS how I lie to myself. Someone wire my fucking jaw shut please!

You need to do a lot of research into it before deciding if it is right for you. It's not designed for weight loss but a diabetic drug, nevertheless it has a side effect of suppressing your appetite temporarily, while you are taking it. It has other less pleasant side effects too including nausea, vomiting, constipation. You need to have a BMI of at least 30 and it is only currently available for weight loss via private prescription which costs about £200 a month, sometimes more now there is a shortage.

It's not a wonder drug. The weight loss in most cases is only temporary and it will be expensive and possibly tough with the side effects. Plus there is a huge shortage at the moment which is causing problems for people who do actually need it for their diabetes.

Oxempic you inject weekly, Saxenda is daily.

Thanks Twigs

You're welcome 😀

I can’t believe I still haven’t done anything. I start with the best intentions but it gets lost by the end of the week.

So many of us in the same boat. The posters who have talked about addiction to sugar salt and additives etc I feel are on to something. It’s like an uncontrollable urge to eat salty things. Not so much sweets for me but I could happily sit and eat a multipack of crisps one after the other the saltiness is just irresistible. Woke up today feeling so low and tired of myself. Tired of being so big and seemingly unable to do something to help myself. The thought of dying early because I’m so fat and my kids having no mum isn’t even enough to stop me. Fuck My Life up the Arse.

I feel the same. It’s because the habits I had when you get have fallen away. I used to be very strict with myself. I used to know the calorie count in everything. I think eating out, drinking too much and walking less have been my downfall. Plus portion sizes. I really need to change habits for life not just to lose weight. No puddings ever. No cakes ever. Very little alcohol. No second helpings, small portions and more exercise.

Young!

Please forget about this diet and that, calorie counting and all the other many restrictive dieting models. It is not going to work for most people. Can reframe this as eating for health - a way of eating that means you never have to diet again.

No to UPF, sugar and refined carbs
Yes to vegetables, protein and healthy carbs.
No to snacking, unless it's a (loosely defined) emergency.

That's it, in a nutshell. And yes, you will give in to temptation every now and again. That's alright - because tomorrow you'll be back to eating healthily.

Combine this with walking whenever and wherever you can, and exercise.

I do that anyway. It’s not enough.

I’ve tried
slimming world
weight watchers
calorie counting
atkins
slim fast
calorie counting
home work outs
cutting out snacks and processed foods
drinking more water
diet pills
hypnosis

I start well and give up every single time. I’m the biggest I’ve ever been. I don’t think I’ll ever lose weight, ever. I am trapped in a prison of bad habits.

Well done
Are you not completely starving?
And does that then not make you grumpy?
This is my prob
Food and mood are so intrinsically linked

Every word of this resonates for what it's worth 🤗

With Fast 800, I managed to lose 2 stone before I conceived my first DD. I find that the hunger is bad for 3-4 days then it gradually subsides.

I put on about 4 stone across 2 pregnancies. I want to be better for them but binge eating is my coping mechanism for a lot of shitty feelings. I’ve started therapy last week and hope that it guides me into better ways of coping.

My diet would be fine if it wasn’t for the binges.

I honestly think that low carbing might be the answer to a lot of the craving and binges.
I've been doing it for a few weeks and I'll be honest - I really miss eating all my comfort food, but that's because of habit and well, the fact that it's comforting, rather than actually being hungry.
I fancy cake etc but I'm not craving it to the point where it overrides my decisions and I fall into a Victoria sponge!
It's hard and boring - I love sweets and booze but bring as fat as I am is no way to live.

Coming on here too - same same except something flipped for me 2 months ago and I realised I needed to do something now - I started that day. A month after my 50th birthday! 2 months into Fast 800 principles I'm 2 stone down. Many more to go.

As PP have said it's bloody boring but not unmanageable. This has to work for me this time and I'm realising basically I kind of need to eat like this forever if I want to be slim.

Now I'm worrying about what my skin will be like if I actually manage to lose the weight!!!

For anyone wanting to give fasting a go, or to help with cravings, they recommend just dabbing a small amount of pink Himalayan salt on your tongue , it really works! Having lost 12 lbs over a few months I know what works for me and what doesn't. I enjoy my first food of the day about 12:30, and make it with greens and protein, and I like carbs so will have them here (think egg cheese spinach brunch style wrap) but...if I eat more carbs, a cheeky pack of crisps or crackers or biscuit or two after, I just don't fancy much for dinner, and I need more protein and veg!! Turns out the bad salt and sugar carbs wrecks my day! So if I have a good lunch and a good dinner with lots of greens/fruit etc I lose more weight. The salt dabs through the morning do help, might be worth a go to anyone who struggles for that salty snack taste in the evening?

I'm not an expert but I think there's definitely a UPF addiction thing going on, @Lostinplaces . How did the Greggs come about? Did you try to be "good" by skipping breakfast and then get drawn in by the smell? Then once you've had that white bread (and no, I don't think white bread is poison but UPF white bread definitely triggers hunger in me) you've been primed for the sweets and crisps. If you'd had two rashers of bacon, a scrambled egg and avocado/tomatoes you would have still had the lovely salty taste but with way less calories and without the hunger-trigger UPF stuff. Olives would help with salt cravings too, or pickles.

Interesting about the UPF issue @AtomicBlondeRose - I bought the Chris Van Tulleken book recently on a Kindle daily deal but haven't read it yet, although I did listen to his podcast with Krishnan Guru-Murthy, which was interesting! He was very fair on the subject of overweight/ obese people having issues with food which aren't necessarily their fault, as 'big business' is always going to promote unhealthy alternatives which make more money. I nodded along wisely as I scoffed a Wagon Wheel

There was a programme on UPF on radio 4 the other day. I think it was the Food Programme. Very interesting.

Exactly! This sooo resonates with me
It's a real addiction I think, like drug addiction or alcoholism.... except you can't cut out food entirely!

I'm so frustrated with myself at not being able to organise things to eat better - I'm just so used to eating quick, easy carbs and other rubbish and it's very hard to think of a simple alternative!

@Lostinplaces sorry to read about your struggles too. It's very tough

Just checking in to hold myself accountable after a weekend of over indulgence. All the tips and tricks are so helpful. All of them I ashamedly already know and seemingly continue to ignore in any event? Can't decide if it's emotional eating, boredom eating, comfort eating or just plain old I love my crisps. I have less than 2 weeks to my summer holiday - if I cut off a limb reckon I could lose a stone? #ohdear

Plan for the week - one meal is going to be weetabix with lovely seeds and fresh fruit. I'm NOT going to snack after dinner. Im going to try to control calories to 1400 and get into my "gym" aka my old cross trainer lying in a heap in the garage. Poor thing looks tougher than I do.

@Peony2021 don't worry we all do it! You are being positive and starting over! And you've focused on what you need. If you ok to try fasting, (ie it suits you medically) can you try to just have the weetabix with fruit a yoghurt& seeds about midday and eat tea by 7pm? If you did that for 2 weeks I am sure you would lose a few pounds over a couple of weeks, and reduce the bloat! We were at a wedding so I definitely over indulged, back to it this week lots of water and green tea and 18/6 fasting. Just half a pound off 11 stone, will be my first stone off! But we will see how the week goes!!

My god this is exactly me every year. I too am the biggest I've ever been. I am morbidly obese,short,chronic health conditions and addicted to eating. I wish I just had a stone or two to lose but in all honesty it's more like half my body weight. I'm hopeless but can't stop myself.