BigMoFos w/c 4 December

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I am live-in, at current job have own room/bath, but limited use of kitchen- feel like a spare wheel! was let go last year- they want a housekeeper instead- got a new job (still live-in, but own flat!) now employers want me back. but no, they are for so many reasons, odd to work for.

New job starts end jan, looking forward to it but taking stuff with me eg rug, lamp, all to stay in suitcase till job starts!

Ill have to update profile! current employer doesnt use mn, not sure about new so must be careful!

Hello! I'm not feeling brave enough to send my weight through yet - I did weigh myself though and am going to keep an eye on it every week now.

I'm starting to feel slightly less nauseaus (I'm sure that's spelt wrong!) and am sleeping better, and am also getting my stress/anxiety habits under control- including over eating! .

My Mum mentioned today that if I was going to go back to weightwatchers she'd like to come with me... I know she's really disappointed I've put the weight back on and she's trying to be all encouraging, but I just want to run away when she mentions it... I haven't told her about being on ADs. Sigh.

Anyway, maybe I'll get myself under a bit more control and the weight will slide off without any trouble at all...

Ah, MightyMoosh - I see. Will be lovely to have your own space finally. And definitely much easier to eat sensible/healthy stuff.

Dottydot - glad you're feeling less nauseous (still not sure about that spelling). Give yourself time to settle down with the ADs, then see how you feel, I guess.

Dotty - don't fret about not sending in a weight. We don't mind, honestly! And you know we love you anyway

Glad the nausea is settling down now.

Hi everyone, I hope you all had a great xmas and new year. I have hardly been on mumsnet in the last 6 months or so, just so much going on and so busy with DH being away (he's home now safe and sound thankfully).
Just wanted to say hello really, and see how you were all getting on.
I'm having my gastric bypass surgery on the 24th, am very nervous but also excited as I know that if I get through it OK my weight will finally be on the downward slope. I hope you all won't mind if I pop in now and then still, I won't join in on the posting of weight-loss, as the surgeon has told me I'm likely to have huge losses in the first 6 months and I wouldn't want my surgically enhanced losses to dishearten any of you who are doing it the genuinely hard way, but I'd still like to keep in touch with what's happening in here?

Hi ForcesSweetheart - of course - it would be lovely to see you whenever you pop in. Glad your DH is now safely home, and best of luck with the 24th - definitely please do keep us updated on how it goes.

Oh good luck ForcesSweetheat! My friend who had the gastric bypass a few months back is doing really well and has lost an astonishing amount of weight - she looks great. Hope it works out for you too, keep us updated

good luck Forces - let us know how you get on. Are you having actual bypass or banding?

Oh hello all. Can I join in please? I am even heavier than last time I wanted to join in, and bummed out after a few posts.

But this time, I am joining Weightwatchers. I need someone to physically approve or disapprove of me each week. My mum approves of me being fat as she is, so I need someone who will make a fuss of me for losing weight. I'm such a child[jmm]

I have my first meeting and weigh in tomorrow morning so I will let my weight be known then. I know I have at least 4 stone to lose.

oooh Colditz, a new discussion topic for us for the new year - so many of us have ishoos with our mums and our weight - even me with my lovely mum! Welcome.

It's funny isn't it? My appetite isn't huge. I could be physically satisfied on a rather parsimonious diet - but I have this inner need, this urge to stuff myself with starch until I am full as full can be. It feels nice, more than tastes nice - I actually don't go for 'junk' like chocolate and biscuits and cake, I got for hot, substantial things like pasta, noodles, hot toast with butter .... and I eat too much of it.

I need to find a way to get over it.

And I need to stop eating at the computer, it's very very naughty and lazy of me.

I find the stuffing qwith starch thing not too bad to deal with as its possible to do that and still lose weight - loads of couscous with home made stews/curreis, piles of pasta with bolognese sauce. All manageable within sensible weight loss for me. My problem is the urge the keep eating once I've started and using food to reward myself or cheer myself up (or many other reasons now I come to think of it)

prepacked single portions of noodles from Amoy are great btw - instant portion control.

yes, it we could all just eat when we were hungry for food, we'd all have a BMI of 23, and the only overweight people would be the ones with medical conditions!

Ooh - did anyone read that William Leith book I was wittering on about a while ago? It talked about carbs and how addictive they are. Such a good book - written by someone who had real binge eating issues - can definitely relate to it!

What is it about mothers and their effect on us that manifests itself as overeating? There are so many of us on this thread who have ishoos with our mothers and believe it's part of their weight problem - me included!

Lovely to see you again, FS - and lovely to see you here too, Colditz. We guarantee to make a huge fuss of you when you lose weight!

Dotty, was the book called The Hungry Years? I did read it and it made huge amounts of sense to me at the time.

ive had the wierdest day, back at work now. WhenI got here there was a big pile of laundry outside my room, all my stuffs been moved (even bed!) and still no heating. And I got shatted up on the train by just the oddest man! he asked for phone no, said no and he gave me his. not my type at a ll, bit creepy. would it be naughty to crank-call him?

Oh and on the topic of mums, my mum used to tell people she thought me and her were anerexic, cos everytime we looked in the mirror we saw huge fat people. make of that what you will!

I think it's because we are preprogrammed to look to our mothers first and foremost for nutrition. Also I think a lot of 60's, 70's and 80's mothers had unrealistic expectations about how much a small child will eat. My mum says on many occasions "when you were 3, you would only ever eat 16 chips, it was all you would tolerate on your plate, you were a nightmare" ... but hold on - you put 16 chips on a plate. i just did. 16 chips is MORE than enough for a 3 year old - my 4.5 year old will eat about that, on a hungry day.

So the first issue is, she constantly demanded me to overeat, and made me feel guilty for trying to set limits on the enforced overeating. The second issue is, when I did overeat, she praised me to high heaven. The praise was more important than the stomachache.

When I was 4, she took me to the doctor demanding to have me treated for anorexia (I may well have been borderline by then)

She is hopelessly overweight herself, and says "I cannot diet" - but the amount of food she piles onto plates is distressing to me. (it's not squeamishness about her weight, she's not a lot bigger than me) and until recently she berated me regularly for being "A nightmare eater when you were younger" ... so that was the way to please her. Eat lots. Don't worry her.

Now I need to learn portion control, self regulation, and how to recognise a full signal. I am hoping weightwatchers will help me with that..

Good to see all these new/returned names

LMS - fab post - I would be delighted with 11.5 stone too, I was roughly that weight when I got married (4.5 years ago) and would love to be there again.

ipod - I wonder about dh sometimes, he says he loves me as I am (fab), but agrees I need to lose weight for my health, then tonight he came home with burgers

Dotty - glad you are feeling less nauseas nausaeus sick all the time

FS good to see you again and best of luck with the surgery - keep us posted with your progress. MTPW/Hecate is having the same op sometime soon I think? Might be worth catching up with her and swapping notes?

Good luck with WW Colditz (your Xmas name was my favourite btw ) (whispers) I am off to WW too - a mate at work is going (she is one of those "omg I am 10lb heavier than I want to be I am such a heifer" types but otherwise lovely so I will have someone to go with. Littlefish is doing really well with them so hopefully she can be our inspiration.

My Mum is a binge eater/yo-yo dieter too. She is currently piling on weight after having just lost about 5 stone . No-one could go to my Gran's house (Mum's Mum unsurprisingly) without being practically force fed all sorts of cakes etc. Plates always had to be clean at the end of a meal (at school too - weren't allowed to leave anything) and we were praised for being good eaters. I am desperately trying to break the cycle with dd...

MightyMoosh - just read your profile and I reckon we must share a bookcase. I read Raymond E Feist's Magician when I was 15 and have been hooked on SciFi / Fantasy books ever since. Love Val McDermid too.

Hope everyone who went back to work today had a good day. I was in London today, went on the train, and what should I find at the train station but MINI EGGS

(yes I did buy some. how could I not??????)

WWB - yes that's it - I should re-read it as it helped when I was losing weight last time.

It's lovely to be back amongst 'old friends' by the way!

Welcome back ForcesSweetheart, and lovely to see you here Colditz. I think I was having a break from posting when you were last here.

I'm doing WW too - I've lost 12.5 lbs since I started (about 7 weeks), but I have another 5 stone to lose. I too have ishoos with my mother who has been anorexic/bulimic for most of my life (well, 33 years of it so far!).

Dotty, please don't feel that you have to weigh if you don't want to. I spent a year with these lovely people, just exploring my feelings until I felt strong enough to actually do something about my weight.

Thanks guys.
Kew - I'm having the bypass. The surgeon gave me the choice, but told me he thought bypass would have more impact on my diabetes, and more quickly - and as we're hoping to TTC again and I'm about to turn 35 time was an issue.
Can someone refresh me - is MTPW short for something?

Neither my mum nor dad were what you'd call large - my dad was relatively short and slim, and my mum, at my age, I'd guess maybe a size 16 at most, but now smaller and much more frail. She hardly eats at all now. I don't remember either of them particularly commenting on my weight, though I was always very conscious of it myself. I remember being about 13 and going out to buy some cords (unwise, I now know), and having to buy adult size ones (in pale blue - what was I thinking?).

But yes, we had the same things about clearing plates, pleasing parents by eating lots, and it's a very difficult thing to get past. I'm guilty of doing it to my 2, even though I try not to.

meet two porky women?

Im now in a good mood- have arrived back, found a cradit card bill- £442, not good, xmas crap and tickets home! but using an evans card and got back £21 vouchers! ok last bill was over £1000 as I got a laptop and ipod, but still is good money for nothing!