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The next Low Carb Bootcamp starts on 14 October
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BIWI · 01/10/2019 07:09
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prettybird ·
11/10/2019 12:44
It is possible to break that addiction dirtyrottenscoundrels 
I'll not deny that I don't still like a nice dessert or, if I'm in France, a piece of patisserie, but once I'm back in the right mindset and keto-adapted, I'll only have it if I really want it and it's not something I can have any time (like a pain au chocolat from Lidl) and I'll enjoy it mindfully. I can now go into petrol stations and newsagents and not automatically buy a bar or two of chocolate 
Caveat: I am a moderator not an abstainer so I can go off track very briefly and get back on to it straight away (not during the 1st two weeks of course ).
dirtyrottenscoundrel ·
11/10/2019 12:55
Than you for your really encouraging words
I must admit, as much as I have a sweet tooth, I can control everything but a spoon of sugar in my tea. And I have 6 cups a day!
prettybird ·
11/10/2019 13:06
dirtyrottenscoundrel - either go cold turkey with your sugar in tea, or get into the habit of drinking something else until you've re-educated your taste buds. Otherwise you risk the Big Stick 
TheHoundsofLove ·
11/10/2019 13:24
I aspire to be like you prettybird !
I'm also addicted to sugar/carbs dirtyrottenscoundrels and have really been thinking about how I can see this low-carb thing playing out in the long term.... as I won't want to put back on the dramatic amount of weight that I'm about to lose I'm obviously going to follow the Bootcamp rules, but can't honestly imagine a future without really good pastries or pizza. I like to think that, once at goal, I will be able to eat low-carb most of the time, with carbs being an occasional treat. Or is this a dangerous strategy?
I am asking this as a serious question as do genuinely want to sort out my sugar addiction and yo-yoing weight for good!
prettybird ·
11/10/2019 13:43
It is indeed dangerous and you have to know or find out 
if you are an abstainer or moderator.
I mentioned I can go briefly off-track: that's why Christmas is so dangerous for me as there is a sustained temptation to go off-track. 
At other times of the year, I can enjoy a special dessert at a friend's/my dad's and be fine. I've also built up a repertoire of low-carb desserts (for after the 1st 2 weeks ), both my own and from other people's posts, which are now in this topic as a stand-alone thread. It's not a pinned thread, so you'll need to scroll down to find it, and I'm not going to link to it just now as you need to go through the 1st 2 weeks of full Boot Camp before even thinking about making any of them .
AthelstaneTheUnready ·
11/10/2019 13:45
The really unhelpful answer, Hounds, is that it depends.
I found that after my first BC, I was quite happy for a year or so having the occasional treat without putting on weight. But my 'occasional treat' at the point was about once a month. When that slipped to be once a week, with wine every weekend and some week nights too, the weight started piling back on. (although I've never regained all of it)
If you can genuinely stick to occasional you'll be fine. I have the willpower of a 3 year old, so find it very hard. Much easier for me to think in terms of "No". No excuses, no discussion. Just No.
And really, that becomes incredibly easy after a while. It's just 'what you do', your new normal. I can do EVERYTHING, and I can do NOTHING, but I can't cope with being inbetween. You may be far more mature than I am
BIWI ·
11/10/2019 13:48
@dirtyrottenscoundrel you have been warned!
Seriously though, for you and @TheHoundsofLove, it is really important to break that addiction. It's the key reason why fruit and artificial sweeteners are not allowed on Bootcamp - we need to break the hold that sweet things have over us.
I've been (mostly) low carbing for about 20 years now (), and it really doesn't bother me that I don't eat pizza or pasta or bread routinely. But as @prettybird says, if I really want something - or if I'm on holiday, or out for a special meal - I don't deny myself. I enjoy it and then get back on the wagon. TBH I wouldn't even call it a wagon, it's just the way I eat.
I genuinely don't feel deprived - certainly nothing like the deprivation I used to feel when I was counting calories or trying to be low fat!
Every now and then I flip out of it - usually if life is just too busy. The world isn't (yet) made for low carbers, and if you have to grab something to eat on the run, it's very hard to avoid the carbs. And sometimes, for me, nothing will do other than a tuna and cucumber sandwich! But that's once in a rare while.
What keeps me focused like this, apart from the fact that I've been doing it for so long, is the reading I've done about high carbohydrate diets, and the issues they can pose for our health. As well as weight gain/obesity, a high carbohydrate diet has also been linked with hypertension, high cholesterol, diabetes, cancer and even Alzheimer's disease. Some people, in fact, have started to call Alzheimer's 'type 3 diabetes'
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AthelstaneTheUnready ·
11/10/2019 13:50
Ola, Pretty! Don't think I haven't spotted you diluting the Brexit conversations with talk of sugary things...
TheHoundsofLove ·
11/10/2019 14:05
Thank you for those replies BIWI , prettybird and Athelstane - that is really very helpful. I can definitely see how the occasional could very easily tip over into the slightly more occasional than is good for me. Which definitely isn't what I want!!! I'm looking forward to throwing myself into it now!
prettybird ·
11/10/2019 14:06
- I blame Brexit for a lot of things
.... but I've managed to sit with a box full of 28 pieces of tablet for the last 2 weeks, right beside the computer, which I need to wrap and send to someone as a RAOK, so I must be getting better again!
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BIWI ·
11/10/2019 16:51
The very lovely and patient @AthelstaneTheUnready has already prepared the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness for Monday. It's like a field of virgin snow waiting to be trampled on
I'll post a link to it first thing on Monday. If your name doesn't appear on it, just go the bottom and add your name, and Athelstane will re-alphabetise it later. DON'T TOUCH ANY OF THE BLUE CELLS OR SHE WILL ALSO FIND SHE HAS A BIG STICK AT HER DISPOSAL!
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