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A space to talk openly about weight loss journeys and challenges. Mumsnet hasn't checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. You may wish to speak to a medical professional before starting any diet.

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Not2bObvious · 28/09/2016 15:24

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Not2bObvious · 24/10/2016 10:55

Well done sugar! That's you firmly in the 11's⭐️ Have been holding off eating for as long as possible this morning but since I think I'm close to keel over, I think I'll take a break & have my brekkie.
Poor hope, my chest is still achey from my dose last week, although it didn't affect my appetite (nothing seems to, boo) It's that time of year for sickness and possibly a bit of SAD kicking in I wonder?

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DawheadAwgusEeentock · 24/10/2016 16:16

I did my usual weekend disappearing act so loads to catch up on. sorry my callouts are quite short...

Sesame that's brilliant you're back in the 9s - well done Star!!! I have no tips on how to get motivated around snacks - for me I just feel incredibly grumpy if I don't have a 'treat' every day. Now I've got it down to one set after lunch but I know that's still not great. It's like we have to be really strict or we completely go off plan - no middle ground.

Bath I laughed out loud at how you picture me Grin you are lovely but oh if you only you knew the truth. That is brilliant willpower to eat differently to everyone else and a v clever excuse about the pie Wink. Glad you're in a good place today - could you go back to having the slimline tonic instead of the Wine to hurry the weightloss along? And I am v impressed with the bike ride - padded shorts could be your friend Wink.

Not sounds like you had a lovely weekend despite the taxi duty Flowers and yay for the holiday plans! That's a great plan for today and once TOTM goes those scales will shock you in a good way!

sugar well done on finishing shred Star!! And for being in the 11s Star!! You have done so great with exercise I think it's ok if you have a fun week - that new routine makes me knackered just reading about it Shock

Loli I'm so sorry for everything that you have gone through Flowers. I am going to write a separate post later for you and Must that I hope will help. All I want you to know is that you will get better - I am just one of many 000s of people who have battled anxiety and come through it stronger.

Hopefully glad you are starting to feel on the mend - that sounded really rough Brew.

Must I am so glad you are going to your GP - it will help I promise. Would echo what Bath said that anxiety can cause all sorts of muscle pains, but the Doc will know for sure.

Good-ish weekend for me. Finished at 1050 on Friday and 1300 on Saturday, but part of that 1300 was some pizza and chicken bites. 1325 yesterday and coming in at around 1200 today so my average is still good. But even though the cals are low-ish I know the pizza always seems to turn straight to fat so I'm not optimistic about the scales this week.

TOTM is due in the next few days and I do feel very stodgy - not going to loo enough so swigging lots of coffee today Blush. Also had to get up v early for dental appointment (I need 2 more root canals sigh - there's that chocolate damage again Sad) so definitely feeling hungry today. Must.Not.Snack.

Not2bObvious · 24/10/2016 16:41

Oh you poor thing dawg, the upside of the root canals is you'll have a few hours where you can't possibly eat (or afford to knowing what dentistry costs in this country!) Sorry the silver lining is kinda grey but I tried😉
Just cleared out a ridiculous amount of rubbish from my bedroom (3 unopened/barely touched summer tan, a zillion empty pill packs, chocolate coins from Disney from 2 years ago among the rubble)
On the upside I've only eaten an orange for lunch as feeling meh, grumpy as hell and have taken myself away from the kids as v shouty. I hate being like this but ffs, will they ever learn not to destroy my home - I mean I'm such a good example😖 Steak for dinner, an hour to go. No alcohol today or tomorrow, last week I was having 1-2 glasses each evening, couldn't shift the holiday mode. Out to dinner & a gig on Wednesday as part of dh's birthday present to me and I know I'll have a few so need to abstain for now.

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Bathsheba3 · 24/10/2016 17:34

Have just deleted an epic post. They say an image tells a thousand words. The picture of the woman on the "Blog of the Day" caption down the side, "oh fuck, it's half term" is me.

DawheadAwgusEeentock · 24/10/2016 18:26

Loli and Must this essay Blush is mainly for you and anyone else who is battling anxiety.

Hope you don't mind that I'm indulging myself in sharing my story - you might feel like wanting to tell me to bugger off Grin. But, when I first was hit by my anxiety disorder, I was desperate to know that I wouldn't be like that for ever. There was lots of advice out there but I never read anything where someone said they felt 'fixed' or 'cured'.

I don't like using either of those words, because honestly, I know I will have to mind myself for the rest of my life. But, for all intents and purposes I do feel cured, so please believe that there is hope out there and you will find a way through this and come out the other side stronger for it.

I started getting crippling panic attacks in my late 20s. When I got the first one, I didn't know what it was. It wasn't like on tv where people hyperventilate and start blowing into a paper bag. I literally just thought I was dying. A feeling of dread and awfulness just spread through my whole body and I felt almost paralysed for hours. I remember lying in the foetal position on the sofa trying to recover.

Anyway, I don't need to tell you how awful anxiety feels and I don't want to focus on the bad times I had in those first few months. The main thing is that I eventually plucked up the courage to ask for help. My GP was wonderful. Straight away she knew what it was and put me on Lexapro (not sure if that's just an Irish branding) and 2 weeks worth of Xanax to get me through until the Lexapro started to kick in. She also referred me to a counsellor.

The counsellor was horrible. Talk about judgey-pants - her eyes nearly came out her nostrils she was looking down so far down her nose at me. I never went back.

But the meds worked. Within weeks. I can't remember exactly how soon, but I very quickly realised that my mind had stopped racing and my body started to feel less agitated. I didn't have any side effects and very soon I felt 'normal' and all the bad feelings became a distant memory.

A few years later and life was good and calm and I felt confident enough to wean off the meds. Which I did successfully. But then a year or two later, another big 'life event' happened and I had a relapse. Knew what it was this time so straight back to GP and back on the same meds. Which worked successfully again.

This time she referred me to a different counsellor. I still remember sitting in front of her saying that I wanted to be 'fixed' and she smiled warmly - she knew it wasn't that simple. But to cut a long story short, this time counselling has changed me and my life. CBT is highly recommended for anxiety and panic attacks, but my counsellor has taught me mindfulness. There's a lot of mixed reviews of it, but for me it just means that I'm almost always aware of how I am, mentally and physically. Sometimes it's hard and I have to keep practising but I find it brilliant.

I have been off the meds this time for almost 3 years. I still go for 'maintenance doses' of counselling a few times a year - it's the nicest thing I can do for myself. Like I said, I will probably have to mind myself for the rest of my life, but I have the tools now to do that. And I love myself. I couldn't say that 10 years ago and when I tried I just burst into tears, but now I do love myself and everything that entails.

These are the best bits of practical advice I can give you from what I've learned:

  • as horrible as it is, a panic attack is actually trying to protect you. It's just a (very nasty) alarm that you are under too much stress. It's trying to alert you that you need to mind yourself and be kind to yourself, physically and mentally. It might help to start thinking of it like that rather than to be afraid of it - it can take some of its intensity away.
  • both your body and mind are under huge stress and are triggering stress to each other, so the vicious cycle of fight-or-flight continues.
  • for your body, try to notice how you are physically. What I find very helpful is to notice how my shoulders are. Are they tense and up around your ears? If so, try to relax them. Baths suggestion upthread of a relaxing bath is a very good idea.
  • another suggestion is this exercise. Sit in a comfy chair (feet flat on the floor - knees slightly apart) and bend forward so that you're looking at the floor. Lay your forearms along your thighs so that your hands are sticking out beyond your knees. Then turn your palms upwards and open your hands like you're cupping something. I find it weirdly comforting - almost like I'm holding yourself.
  • breathing exercises can be hit and miss as a lot of the stress hormones can affect your chest and throat. But try slow, deep breaths into your stomach and out through your nose - if you're breathing from your chest this will fool your body into thinking you are in danger and keep the cycle going.
  • trying to stop your mind racing is harder so my advice isn't great. Easier said than done, but you need to try to be aware of your thoughts and slow them down. Meditation is great but it's hard to jump straight to that from full-on anxiety. Even try just slowing or even emptying your mind for 10 seconds, then 20 seconds, then 30 seconds etc to remind yourself what it's like to have a calm mind. You are not in any danger, or going mad, or weak or anything else bad that you might be telling yourself. That is just the stress and anxiety playing silly-beggers. Nowadays if I start saying something in my head like "My life is awful I've no future", instead of letting that escalate my next reaction is "Wow, isn't it interesting how that thought popped into my head, I wonder what's going on for me or triggering that?". It takes the power and intensity of it away.

Honestly reading that back, I wouldn't blame you if you thought - what a silly cow and what a load of hippie nonsense/claptrap Hmm. But above all I just want to say what I wish someone had said to me. There are methods to fix this and you will find them and get better. You won't always feel like this and you are so strong and brave for posting on here and going to your GPs. If your GP or the meds aren't right first time, keep trying and changing until you find the right combination. And then maybe think about some talk-therapy - it's not essential but if you can find the right person it might do wonders for you.

All of this is horrible and unfair and it does take some hard work at times, but you will come through it Flowers. If I can help at all I will.

Not2bObvious · 24/10/2016 18:40

Great advice dawg, that's a million for sharing your experience 😘

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Lolimax · 24/10/2016 21:02

Daw that absolutely came from the heart and yes made so much sense. I'm in my (ugh) late 40's and have suffered on and off since my early 20's, including horrendous PND and a time I was misdiagnosed with BPD and put on lithium.
I was doing better and was pretty good at practising Mindfulness but I think I became lax. I completely agree with your description of a panic attack. I've been having constant mini ones for weeks. Although it's far too early for my meds to be working I think taking time off from work is already helping, as are my long walks with the dogs every day. My thoughts are already either becoming more rational or I'm able to park them without catastrophising. Unfortunately my 19yr old DD seems to be following in my footsteps- genetic? And I'm gutted for her. I know I'll get better, but like what I eat, I'll always have to keep an eye.
Thanks again for your honesty and your support.

SesameSparkle · 24/10/2016 21:09

dawhead amazing post and advice! Star Thanks for sharing your journey here too. I think the you won't always feel like this is key. Those of us at the bottom right now - it really does get better. I've just emerged from 3 years of failed fertility treatments, with no happy ending. Sharing on another thread on here has helped keep me afloat over the last year of it, and I've met some amazing women along the way. Now I'm starting to take back control of all parts of my life. Rebalancing my relationship with food and living healthy is part of that for me.

hopefully hope you feel better

sugar congratulations on burrowing further down into the 11s! Hope you manage to fit those runs in.

bath glad you're getting on top of things.

dawhead so sorry about the dental appointment, sadly another reason to stay away from Cake

not well done on the clear out. Personally I'm a big covert to Konmari even though I never finished the job...

En route home now. If I stick to the leftover soup with 1 slice of bread and cheese as planned, I should finish on 1625 - so 35cals under. Hopefully I won't get tempted by some of the nice things dark choc that made its way into my weekend shop.... Halloween Smile Halloween Grin

Not2bObvious · 24/10/2016 21:25

On 700 cals today, it's doing me no harm so far, the odd v low day can be a great reset.
loli my mum was also a dysfunctional alcoholic, suffered from depression too, frightens me terribly that it's in the genes as well. My grief was so emeshed with anger I didn't know which was which. I still don't feel I've grieved as such but I have to let it go, just scared it'll hit me some day. The fact that you're dealing with your situation will mean you can help your dd, I think life is terribly complicated for lots of us. But she's still so young, it could just be the transition into adulthood, and everyone struggles with that I'm sure. And everyone has down days, it's when it's weeks & months that's the concern.
Sesame, I have no words - I can only sympathise, seeing how many people are affected by infertility makes me angry that they can't have what so many take for granted. I hope you're doing ok as you can be, if that makes any sense

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Bathsheba3 · 24/10/2016 22:20

Lovely ladies. Thank you all for your sharing, and for wonderful supportive words Dawhead. And am inspired by your positivity sesame, inspite of your tough battle with infertility. Flowers all round.

Bathsheba3 · 24/10/2016 22:28

Heart goes out to you too Loli, & your concerns over your DD. I've been crippled over the last week too. My big binge on fri was cos I was so upset watching my own DD looking at her SH scars. She's 13. I feel like a total failure as a mum. Have been in tears most of the day. I think Not wondered if SAD was knocking around. That, totm, full moon, and everything else it feels. Plus a DH who just looks on ...

Food good today, 1185 cals, but despite your wonderful words of support, I hit the wine. It helps drown the emotion. Plus I watched double bill of Cold Feet back-to-back. Loved every minute. Smile

madein1995 · 24/10/2016 22:29

Bloody hell, this thread moves fast! Grin I am back, and feeling v. frustrated as have maintained past 3 weeks. Have given self a firm kick up the bum. I am not going to have any takeaways until the middle of November at least, and am cooking. Today I'm finishing on 1157 - cuppa for breakfast, chicken tikka sandwich and a blueberry muffin for lunch, burger for tea, 4 cheese twists as a snack and plenty of flavoured water. Tea tomorrow is a vegetable curry and rice. Other meals for the week will be sausages and chips, bolognese, sweet and sour chicken and rice, a stir fry, and most probably a sunday roast.

Not2bObvious · 25/10/2016 08:31

I was wondering where you'd got to made, nice to have you back. If you've maintained for 3 weeks, do you think you went over on your calories or just here & there evening the numbers out? You're always so good with the gym, it's a shame it's not showing yet. Of course the body could be gearing up for a whoosh.
Don't want to start the day in a downer so I won't 😁 Didn't weigh in today but checked last night and I was 11.6, only up .6 from Friday. Will weigh in tomorrow and see where I was from last Wednesday's post holiday 11.6.8 - guts are grumbling so might have an evacuation imminent (tmi, sorry!) My new black jeans are still a tad tight but my belly isn't as folded into them as last week, going to keep it light today as well which shouldn't be hard as not even hungry yet despite not eating since dinner yesterday at 6pm. A few days of this feeling a month would have me in the 20'sometging club in no time. How's everyone else feeling today?

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Bathsheba3 · 25/10/2016 08:40

I'm not weighing in until tomorrow either. Will try and have a very busy day today, & no snacking. I think October has proved how strict I have to be with myself to actually loose. I'm going to go into lock-down for November, & cut out the wine and sugar again.

Not2bObvious · 25/10/2016 19:03

V quiet here today, hope everyone's having a good day? Nothing earth shattering to report, 1100 cals in - might have something small later but I'm going to aim not to

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Lolimax · 25/10/2016 19:25

I've spent the day (spoiling) with my DD. She went to the GP this morning so hopefully is one day closer to recovery. She's a nursing student so is broke as well so mammy took her food shopping.
Apart from that I walked the dogs (5kms) and just home from Zumba. I'll probably end at 1250 calories.
Can I say thanks to everyone for your support and this thread. It makes such a difference.

Not2bObvious · 25/10/2016 19:49

Oh that's a good days work loli, aren't you the good mammy to her. And super well done on all the exercise, I'm trying to join a 6 week transformation program in my hardcore gym - 6 weeks with all classes included, nutritional plan & weekly weigh in/measurements. Although I am a bit unsure about the weigh in's, they're evening time. And I guess I'll have to wear clothes? 😉😉😉

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Hopefully · 25/10/2016 20:54

Still ill, still no energy to calorie count, maintaining weight though.

Not2bObvious · 25/10/2016 22:14

Poor hope, maintenance is pretty darn good if you're still poorly. Finished on 1500, so that's OK as yesterday was only 700. Drink & dinner tomorrow will be a challenge but I think I can keep it within 2000 which will be decent for a night out. I stress "think"

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SesameSparkle · 25/10/2016 23:09

Been served pizza at a friend's house for tea. I just totted up the ingredients and it came to 700cal. Not very satisfying and a bit of a waste of calories - esp when I could do 2 rounds of cheese on toast for 380!

That takes my total to 1882, so 222 over. OK for maintaining, but I think I should get a lot more joy from eating within that kind of day.

Not2bObvious · 26/10/2016 06:21

I hate that sesame when you look at the calories and think "HOW much?? For THAT??" You did well though for pizza, it's usually bursting with cals, slice of dominos is between 250-400 a slice. Years ago we used to have it once a month in work and as it was free I used to fill my boots as it were. And to think I used to wonder where the weight came from...greedy & delusional, bad combo. Did you have a nice time apart from wasted digits?
This morning I am 11.3.8, down 3 from last Wednesday!!! Thrilled with myself, only 1.8 from the Wednesday before I went on holidays. Friday is officially my last WI for October, final WI for September was 11.2.8, so let's see if I can make a loss albeit tiny for October.

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Bathsheba3 · 26/10/2016 08:42

So you should be thrilled Not. Good work. And I'm back in the 11s (11 13.5 but that's good enough for me).

Pizza is evil. Even a "normal" small Pizza Express one is 800 cals +, and that is before the calorific salad dressing, glass of wine, breakfast & lunch ... I try and avoid at all costs.

Have a good day everyone! And hope you a feeling a bit better today Hopefully?

SesameSparkle · 26/10/2016 11:24

not it wasn’t even a great evening in the end, my friend was feeling a bit meh, and it sort of rubbed off on me. Great news on the loss – well done you! Halloween Grin

bath I would usually order one of the calorie counted pizzas if I went to a pizza express type place with colleagues or something, it’s not as good as the real thing but I usually feel satisfied at the end of the meal and at least I get to join in.

What I do at home is buy those frozen supermarket mozzarella pizzas, which I cut in half (into a recommended portion size) before sticking in my freezer at home. Then I add a few extra toppings and just put the half in the oven. I find a half pizza served on a plate with some cooked veg and salad on the side is quite a filling meal for about 450 cal all in. What’s really annoying is that if I want to eat healthy and stay on top of the calories, I really have to prepare everything myself. I just can’t trust others to do this for me – whether at a friend’s place, or if I eat out. Even the brunch place I go to serves a basic eggs on toast type meal, totting up to 800-1000 cals – when if I did the same at home it would be less than 400.

Anyway, after all that whinging I actually had a win on the scales this morning with just a little hot stepping. My very first ever glimpse of 9st12. Yes! Halloween Grin Halloween Grin I first hit 9st13 on 28 September, so with the small gain in between it's properly taken a whole month to drop that lb. I really hope that this will mean goodbye to the 10s for me.

Not2bObvious · 26/10/2016 13:30

Oh well done sesame! Pity about the meh night, I work with someone whose humour can be very low and I leave work thoroughly depressed. But when it's a friend you have to take the rough sometimes (although some friends are just like that)
I nearly had a burger & chips for lunch and instead made a ham/cheese/coleslaw roll for around 450 calories and it was lush. Saved myself a few quid and probably 300 calories served with a helping of guilt😉

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Bathsheba3 · 26/10/2016 17:40

Starving. Just been munching on a carrot stick to hold me over til dinner.

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