I had my hypno gastric band 'fitted' by Paul McKenna last night...

[lynniep]

...so far so good! Admittedly its not even 11am yet, but I havent eaten my snacks which are sitting on my desk and not even tempting me! Normally I don't allow myself anything till 10am, then I pounce!

I am doing this in conjunction with weightwatchers, which Paul McKenna would not approve of, since he despises 'diet clubs' (boy does this come through loud and clear in his book).

However since I don't know the man personally, and I feel I need the WW sessions for support, I am carrying on with pro- pointing and hoping that my gastric band will provide the backup I need to not binge and eat more than my body needs.

I've been (back) on weightwatchers for several months now and failed miserably because I am both a compulsive eater and a (hopefully) reformed bulimic.

I'd like to think this will help me - and I'm willing to try it because I am now as heavy as I was just after I gave birth to DS2 3 years ago (my heaviest, unless you count when I was 40 weeks pg!)

If anyone is interested I will report back :)

I think you're right Rules
After my loss last week I think I was hoping I would carry on that way but I think it'a going to be a marathon rather than a sprint I think.
Its funny because as you know I am a hypnotherapist but I don't think the hypno band has worked on me. I've listened twice now so will listen again and see if that gets things kick started!

Clench....as I mentioned before I am listening to it every day more of a safeguard really but I find it sooooo relaxing and soothing. It must be very re enforcing to listen to it more....maybe you need to load it up by listening to it for a week to start then maybe every two days etc. You no more than I do though about this but it is working for me this way.

Had a really frumpy feeling day today ( more so than normal!!!!). Surprisingly, I would normally have drowned my sorrows in a packet of choc biscuits, but it has just made me more determined.

I did have a couple of strawberries with cream, and loved every mouthful.

Hope you've all had a great weekend and enjoyed the weather

Urrgghhh, - 1/2 lb this week. At least it's a loss I suppose. I know exactly how. I've stuck to the rules 100%, but have spent loads of time in the garden sunbathing....and all that shloer.

Don't worry Fairy it's still a loss. Think of it this way...you would have been more upset if it had been a pound on. This isn't a diet it's trying to eat normally and never diet again. So your doing that and still lost a half a pound ....that's great.

Hey Fairy just weighed myself for you.....Im no different to last week so there you go. Thing is the other day I had a wobbly and thought "I know what I can do, I can do low carb and lose a lot of weight quickly" but then I thought it through after feeling really sad and unhappy, and realised that I might be able to lose 5lb quick water weight on low carb but the minute I touch a carb it will go on just as quick AND I can never stick to such a restrictive way of eating. I also felt said that I have spent my life hating my body when there is nothing to hate. Its fine and always has been. I was slimmer when younger and still hated it and used to want to curl up and disappear when out cause I always felt so fat. BUT omg......I wasn't fat. Its soo sad when you look back at wasted times when you let your body size control everything. So im not going to allow that anymore. Im going to love myself (god I sound like a self help book now) just the way I am cause Im actually ok. Its in my head that there is a problem not outside. So im going to work on my body image and look on amazon for some good books (theres the self help bit he he he!!!) . You know what will probably happen????? Ill finally accept who I am and love myself and the weight will start disappearing. We shall see.

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aw rules that's so lovely have you had any luck doing the friendly mirror exercises in ICMYT?

I certainly agree with you about diets that give great results, but are unbelievably hard to stick to, rules.

I have had this idea in my head for years that being thin will bring me life changing immediate happiness. The sun will shine constantly and I will live in total bliss.

Honestly, I am happy. I'd like to lose a couple of stone, but I'm not going to make myself miserable trying. That's why I love this.

No very I havnt done them yet. I should cause of my hatred of mirrors.

meant to say earlier, well done fairy on your loss, yes small but still moving in the right direction. & yes shloer is sooo addictive it's amazing how quick a bottle just goes. but i always find juice like that just disny quench my thirst so i drink more. when i really want the taste but not massive quantities (i have sensitive teeth fe drinking too much fizz, it rots your enamel like nobody's business) i drink a big pint of water followed by a wee glass of fizz to sip: more thirst-quenching & less damaging! see me pearly whites there!!

i too am approaching (cautiously) the self-lovin' thing: i was thinking before i'm not someone who thinks being thin will make me happy in every aspect, i'll just be happier with my body & the rest will be the same... thus i didn't feel i needed self-esteem, all i need is to be thin IYSWIM. but now i'm getting really fed up 7 yrs later of being unhappy about my body (though gladly everything is is pretty good) so i'm thinking i may try to see myself in a more accepting way until i get thin, just to get me through.

very in my recent role I was a personal stylist and you probably won't be surprised to know that most women had body issues. My job was to emphasise their good points and stop them dressing in tents . Even the larger ladies look better when they showed off their shape. I worked in front of a wall full of mirrors so some days could be hard.

OMG rules that's tough indeed, i hate full wall mirrors. i don't mind when i'm looking on purpose, but it's the surprise unflattering glance i hate. when i was giving my sister a massage last, i caught sight of myself in her mirrorred wardrobe i'd been feeling quite good up to that point because i had lost a bit & was doing something i love & am good at, but that was just a kick in the teeth! IKWYM about right clothes shape though, i was a big Tshirt girl until i found i looked better in things that go in under the boobs & billow out over my apple shape. any other tips for apples?

yesterday my friend's wee boy pointed at us both & shouted "two fat ladies!" i laughed it off but it hurt inside that that's how folk see me, out of the mouths of babes etc. waah! been looking at other hypnosis apps after clench said PM has a particular style of left-brain, i thought maybe a different one would work? no made time for EFT yet... am i avoiding it???

Oh ladies help! It's been a week and while things started well I'm not sure if its working anymore? I'm eating bigger portions (mainly at night) and I'm hungry more often. The weight I lost has come back Even though I've been listening to the cd nightly. Is it too often? Should I take a break fr listening for a while? I'm still following the rules (except last night when I ate dinner in front of telly ) but not feeling sated as quickly as before what should I do?

Jibb..Hi....re read the book carefully. Especially the bit about the 4 rules cause they are what are important. The cd is just to give you re enforcement. The 4 rules are what you can do for life. For some reason your not choosing to turn into your head. You might be eating mindlessly and not chewing slowly and concentrating on the taste and after about 4 mouthfuls, does the 4th mouthful still taste as good as the first? If not then maybe its time to stop. You can always go and eat it later. Wrap it up and it will be there if your hungry. Its quite often only about 4 mouthfuls of something that we really really need. Then if you can tune in you might find that the food doesn't taste as satisfying now.
Its like....when your really hungry and you take your first bite its like....omg.....this is delicious.....then by bite 4 it doesn't taste quite as good anymore......!!! Does that make any sense to you
We think we need a big plate full but actually we only need very little at a time. I have only lost 3lb in the first week and 1 in the second and that 1 keeps going up and down. Its been nearly 3 weeks for me now and ive lost 4lbs and although I would have liked to have seen it come off really quick.....ive realised that that is diet mentality and that if I am eating normally and having all the foods I desire in the house and doing this properly then this is brilliant. 4lb in 3weeks .....maybe 8lbs in 6 weeks etc etc....but think where I could be by Christmas. So that is my new thought and goal. That by Chrismtas I will have lost some of this fat that has gone to my waist (and bum and thighs and bloody arms too).

"tune" into your head....good god!!! my typos are awful.

It's so hard to stick to just the hypnosis gastric band bit. I agree with the rules problem. once you have rules it does make it harder. my hypnotherapist told me that he didnt want to have any rules and so that I could eat what I wanted. its surprising that this actually made me more aware of what I was doing, as I could have the bad stuff I didnt want to much, if that makes sense !

jib, perhaps if you started from scratch again, reading the book and listening to the whole cd that might help.

I have to admit, I do occasionally eat dinner in front of the tv. I just make sure I have a really small portion, so I can have more if I need to.

I fitted mine two days ago and seems to be working ok...when I actually listen to my body I am not hungry it's just not easy to listen to it as I spent all my life ignoring it! But I'm struggling with the whole concept of eating what I want, it's hard to let go of the whole diet thing in order to lose weight.

Jayneguest Hi.....not sure what the "rules problem" is. Sorry probably just me being dim here. The only rules are eat when your hungry, eat whatever you want, eat consciously and stop when you are satisfied.
I fill my kitchen with all my favourite foods and if I want them I have them. This has always been the mindful eating approach before PM came on the scene. These rules are just guidelines to teach people how to eat mindfully like a naturally slim person does....cause that's why their slim......the don't overeat...why would they. They don't have that diet mentality thing that we others do. I hope that makes sense. Anyway, how are you doing on the hyno diet thing that your hypnotherapist did for you?

VeryStressed Hi....so you have fitted the band....do you practice the 4 rules too. Cause they are the thing that will change your eating. The band is a mind tool as back up and support. Glad your getting on well with it. At first it can seem strange to let go of the diet mentality and you really need to give this way of eating at least 6 months to benefit from it and turn your eating habits around. Its not instant but you can lose your weight while eating anything you want as long as you do it mindfully. Sometimes all you need is a few bites and you feel satisfied. That's when its a good idea to stop. The first bite tastes amazing doesn't it but by bite 4 its not as amazing and that's when your body is signalling to you that your satisfied. We all normally eat way over this and think that as its on the plate I will eat it. Hope that helps. Just my way of seeing it but the other lovely ladies will be along to give their views im sure

verystressed, I struggle with eating what I want. With so many years dieting, I don't think I know what I want! I'm slowly training myself to cook normal meals, although I do tend to lean towards healthier options.

Thanks rules and fairy. Fairy I was just thinking myself that I don't know what I want either:) I think I want something but don't actually know what it is I want, if I listen to my body I'm not hungry at all but my big mouth is telling me to put something in it...-trying not to listen to that one.
You're right rules, I need to give it a chance but at the moment it still feels like a diet, in that I'm not hungry but trying not to eat of twin. But I'm going to listen to my body for once and not keep going round and round in the diet trap, but at the moment it doesn't feel natural!

Thanks ladies - good advice! I do think I've slackened on the rules. Will go back and reread

Im not sure VeryStressed what sort of food you are classing as "healthy option". In this woe, as you know, there are no good or bad.
So for instance I eat full fat mayo, salted welsh butter, lovely chocolate, olive oils , cream , full fat yoghurt in fact I have greek yoghurt with honey. Nothin diet or low fat (cause they are full of artificial rubbish and chemicals anyway) biscuits, real chocolate cake and other cake. Thing is real food as close to nature as possible is usually nicer. Sugar not sweetners etc. Anyway, this for me is normal food and as far away from diet food as can be.