Week 2 - Little Black Dress Low Carb Bootcamp - check in here for tomorrow!

[BigBroomstickBIWI]

We managed to fill the thread before the end of the week, so I'm starting the next one.

Here is the Spreadsheet of Wonderfulness for you to record your weight tomorrow

Biwi - I'd be inclined to agree. I used carbs as an excuse not to eat fruit and veg.

I think was what has been noticable is that people have commented on the fact that I am starting to look healthier.

Feeling really sluggish today. I fear the years of abusing caffine to overcome lack of sleep is beginning to catch up with me. All I want to do is curl up in the corner and sleep.

Am I being stupid? How can you lose over a stone?!

You can't, surely?

I'm amazed enough at the weight losses mentioned throughout this thread, but a stone?!

Crikey.

I've just finished reading this book - Trick and Treat by Barry Groves. I think that the byline of the title says it all "How healthy eating is making us ill". It really implodes the high carb, low fat dogma (as though anyone on this thread needed telling!) and also goes into the biochemistry and scientific rationale of why low carb, high fat is the best way to eat to stay healthy and to keep weight under control. Definitely worth a look if anyone's looking to do more reading around the subject.

www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1905140223/ref=mp_s_a_1?pi=SL75&qid=1349694644&sr=8-1

LRD just been speaking to my coach.
Last week I burnt best part of 4000 calories due to various training, possible more.
I consumed about half of the calories I would have done pre bootcamp yes i used to use training as an excuse to eat half my own body weight in sugary rubbish afterwards
AND the food I ate had nutritional value. A lot of nutritional value.

They are not surprised and think this is the way to continue for me. Doesn't suit all but it suits me. And will hopefully improve my performance and reduce injury long term.

Gosh.

Does it feel odd?

I think I would feel really strange if I lost that much at once - I never seem to lose more than a pound or two. And it's quite easy for me to do 4000 cals of exercise in a week, if my fitness pal makes sense. I assume it must be all the different things working together.

I'd feel like I'd lopped off a limp! (Or my arse! )

*limb, not limp.

Back in the day when I ran something similar to bootcamp I recorded initial weightlosses of 1st+ each time from one or two people. They were in the main in the 30+ BMI bracket and were going from an extremely carb heavy diet to strict Atkins induction.

I would say that a lot of it was likely to be water weight because all of the people concerned reported having to get up in the night more than once. Not all of it will be though.

It's definitely possible - I've seen it happen before and what a wonderful start to a weight loss plan!

I think Jins has hit the nail on the head. I think that my extremely bad pre-bootcamp diet is what has enabled this. I can pm you a typical good and a typical bad day. Won't post here as it wouldn't be fair to those who are trying to not cheat. It was truely truely horrific. And literally virtually 100% carbs.

I don't feel different other then other changes. No loss of limb etc. But all my muscles are achy. Today is a rest day. I am going to end up having done an hour of physio rehab stuff plus 1-2hrs stretching. I need to up my salt/mineral intake as i have cramp in some of my muscles.

vnmum congrats on getting the interview. And good luck!

I will admit that I thought you had meant 8lbs rather than 8kgs, but if your trainer says that it is not unusual, then I will bow to his (her?) knowledge.

Vmum
Good luck with the interview.

I have just been to local farmer's market and bought loads of delicious veg and salads. And a yummy salami - I know we shouldn't be eating processed food, but it doesn't have a lot of additives, and will be great for snacking. Do you think it will be ok, BIWI?

Oh dear. I've been living on salami/parma ham the first week. Lamb steaks week two instead I think.

Well done all you losers

I've stayed the same this week, which is fine, for similar reasons to Jins.

This week is clear in terms of socialising so I am hoping for a modest whoosh next week... Have made the emmenthal lasagne for tonight and stuck one in the freezer, it looks absolutely delicious.
Well done to those avoiding cheese. I would fine that very tough but might have to resort to it for the last few pounds. Hope not!

wow newstart!

while some of it may well be fluid/depleting glycogen stores that's still fab and very encouraging for you!

Well done everyone for the losses however big or small. Those of us who have been low carbing for a while the 1 or 2lb losses might not seem much compared to the whooshes of those starting out. However slow and steady wins the race!

Newstart - I have food issues too although mine is more about emotional eating. Well done for tackling yours and hopefully this is the first step on a better journey for you.

Jins Jax and tartiflette - hope you all feel better soon.

Vnmum - good luck for the interview tomorrow. You'll wow them, I'm sure.
Do you need to sort out clothes to wear for it? Get them ready now whilst DC at school.

Am thinking of what to eat for tea - off to recipe thread for some ideas.
I made spinach and paneer curry the other night - was yum. I must finish off the LC recipe transfer later too

Sigh. We had a lovely roast beef last night (with buttery cauli mash & broccoli) and there was loads of lovely rare beef left over - which I planned to have for my lunch with a salad. But no, my husband has obviously taken it upon himself to take it in to work for his lunch! Now obviously I applaud his money-saving thriftiness but it was MINE! Had tuna and mayo salad instead ....

Fab Ab Attack class this morning and then took the hounds for a walk / run for 50 mins - and I ran more than I walked. This exercise lark is addictive

re low carb being a fad diet (brace yourselves for self-indulgence of the worst kind)

i had seriously disordered eating for about ten years, and it is only since i starting low carbing that i have actually managed to change my eating behaviour properly. i am still working on the psychological side, but on a behavioural basis i have been 'normal' for nearly 8 months

i haven't admitted this on here before, but actually started 'low-carbing' (with a bmi of over 40, up from a bmi of about 15 nearly 8 years ago) in early 2011, and within a year had almost got myself to an 'overweight' bmi. but i had been doing my own sort of plan which involved low fat and low cal, as well as low carb (and included things like milk, oat bran, carrots, occasional sweet treats, A LOT of coffee etc), so i was pretty miserable and i did still relapse into bingeing and/or starving and i could see myself at risk of undoing my good work.

it was only when i discovered and lurked on the pre-bootcamp low carbing threads on here in early 2012 that i realised what i had been doing wrong with respect to fats and low carb foods. since 16th feb 2012 i haven't looked back and it has literally changed my life.

anyway, all that blethering on was to make the point that, while i am aware that some might argue that i have transferred from one disordered eating regime to another (i.e. 'demonising' carbs), i don't know how anyone could suggest that my diet now could possibly be considered 'faddy' when it contains such a wide variety of fresh foods, eaten regularly and in normal quantities, and makes me feel so bloody good and positive about life. i have managed to, for the most part, separate emotions from food which is nothing short of miraculous

and anyone who says 'just eat less and do more' when you're dealing with that level of disordered eating is an idiot. we are talking about something that would have killed me, either through overeating or starvation.

i'm not saying that low-carbing is the one and only cure (I definitely still need help with the mental health side, and that is ongoing), nor is it the best thing for everyone, i'm sure, but it really is one of the best things that has happened to me and i have all you chaps and the low carbers on previous threads (especially biwi) to thank for the support and advice (even when you didn't know you were giving it... i lurked for AGES on those threads). it has given me the hope that i can have a normal relationship with food in the future, and i honestly never thought i would

Afternnon all and well done on some great losses.

Congrats and good luck vnmum re the interview.

Just had lunch of bacon and eggs, no breakfast as was up early to do the school runs and straight to the gym. Whilst DH slept off his hangover!!! Good job he is not starting work till late today!

Waggledagger - same here - so good to hear someone say what i have been feeling. Sounds like you have done so well and totally agree about it being easier to cope with disordered eating while low carbing as it cuts out all those blood sugar swings. Am in the process of getting some help but feel so much more stable when I cut the carbs right down.

Willie what a powerful post. Well done on your journey, it must have taken great courage, your story is inspirational

Fabulous post WilliwWaggledagger. I'm so far along my low carb journey that sometimes I need reminding that my previous relationship with food was miserable.

I would say though that anyone who says 'just eat less and do more' is an idiot whether they are talking about disordered eating or not. We are NOT bomb calorimeters and we do not work like one. The calories in/calories out equation is definitely flawed and I hope that one day it will be proven to be flawed.

Eat less move more is lazy, thoughtless, stupid advice and a little part of me hopes that the smug people who come out with it end up with complex obesity issues one day.

And relax

Brilliant post, Willie

Everywhere i look is adverts for chocolate! On the tv, the pc... In the shops its allll on the end of the aisles! Grrr its not fair!

Also up until today i have still been drinking the odd pepsi :/ i think thats what was guving me a dodgy tum and hampering the weight loss too! Also i have been wide awake most of the night

wille.. Excellent post there!

wine you do speak words of wisdom

god i was so worried about posting that, thought you might all !

you're absolutely right of course jins re 'eat less, move more'

My new reply to that is to ask them if their car goes further with less fuel