Paul McKenna's non diet. No calories, no syns, no humiliation, just shedding stones amongst friends. Thread 7.

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The Golden Rules that will aid you on your journey with our like minded support system:

1. Eat what you WANT
2. Eat when you are HUNGRY
3. Eat CONCIOUSLY
4. STOP when you are satisfied and full

This weight loss system is about re-educating your body; learning to listen to it and in doing so losing weight and inches so forget diets, they may work for a while, but they aren't permanent solutions. The Paul McKenna system works and is easy to maintain.

I've C&P'd our previous threads links as they are helpful.

Here is the book on AMAZON which is all you need to get started!

This is the tapping technique EXPLAINED - this can be useful to combat cravings.

Please feel free to join us. We are friendly, supportive and successful but we're not hungry!!! so come on in and start living your new life today!

The app isn't great YouTube much better.

Yes, Alibaba, I have heard of such creatures! I feel your pain

Hi guys

I don't know if you remember me. I popped my head round the door a couple of months ago but then disappeared. At the moment I'm calorie-counting with Nutracheck, but listening to Paul and re-reading the book. Paul worked for me a couple of years ago, and helped me recalibrate my relationship with food. His method is the first one that has made the keeping the weight off bit effortless. I seem to have lost sight of the whole thing, though, and haven't been to the gym in six months.

I need a bit of a kick-start to get some weight off quickly which is why I'm using NC. I know it's against the method, but I only have a small amount to lose, so I'm worried I just won't lose anything/it'll be too slow for impatient me.

I'll get straight onto it when the inevitable obsessional thinking/bingeing starts.

Arrgh...why do I do it to myself?!

Mrsbuggywinkle big respect to you for being together enough to start slimming with a baby that small! My youngest is 7 m and I'm just recovering my faculties enough to do something about my scary belly...

alibaba do hope you get some good sleep and awake with your mojo intact.

Reading about fruit prices up thread, if anyone's in or near Kent or Sussex, come on round next summer and get fruit, please. Immense fruit cage, too many fruit trees, we struggle to keep up. Not so hot at growing bananas though!

Not a bad day pauling here. Definitely eating less, but more often. Guess it will settle down.
Night all.

Helloooo! I am new! I spoke to ppeatfruit on another thread and she kindly told me about some exercises and advised me to get myself over here (thank you!)

Well i am huuuuuuuge and fed up so I am sorting it out this year! I have a v important wedding to go to at the end of may or which I will not be the fat friend!

My best mate is starting lighter life this week and i am determined to prove there are healthier ways of doing it .. and keeping it off!

I am worried a little bit about how quickly it will come off with Paul though (even though I know thats not the point). How much ish do you think you are losing each month? Bearing in mind I am over 15 stone, arrrghhhh! Have started low carbing but dont know if i should continue this because then i am consciously dieting?! arrgh.

anyway, off to read the book in bed, cd tomorrow!

I do agree about the fruit costs, I am always horrified by apples especially which I feel should be a cheap fruit but aren't.
I confess I do shop at Waitrose, with top ups of milk etc from Sainsbury's, but I actually find them cheaper than Sainsbury's for a full weekly shop. I do my shop online rather than drag the boys round in a trolley and all that palaver, and that keeps the costs down too because I can adjust my mealplan if there are different offers etc.
Anyway they have just started selling 'imperfect' fruit, for much lower cost which is great as DS1 would eat nothing but fruit all day given the chance!

BBB - I had forgotten about using canned fruit. I must get some to have in for puddings etc. I do use frozen berries to have with yoghurt and for desserts as well.

Hello Jenda :) It comes off at varying rates I think is the answer. There is no doubt that listening to the CD and doing the visualisations in the book does really work and you can lose a fair bit quite quickly.

Those of you who were asking about family mealtimes etc, I remember being really worried about that when I started too. For me, what works is to think 'yes I am hungry but this dinner is going to be on the table in 45 minutes, so drink a glass of water and have something small if you really must'. Being a bit hungry for a short time isn't going to kill me, which is a big step for me because I have always had a bizarre fear of it without even realising that I did

If you really aren't hungry then just have a small portion of the meal and sit with everyone else. As much as I think it is good to encourage children to eat in the PMK way, mealtimes are still mealtimes and I'm not having people wanting their meals spread across the day, that is totally impractical and would drive me mad!!

I am feeling a bit better this morning. Resisted all snacking last night, and didn't actually finish my glass of wine either. I've not had breakfast yet because I'm not really hungry, but I will eat a little bit once I get hunger pangs otherwise I will go too far the other way and then eat too much.

See this is what is pissing me off (pardon the language). I know all this, I know what works. I really want to have shifted this 3lbs I've put on over Christmas plus another 5lbs before the wedding at the end of February, I really want to. So why am I sabotaging myself?

I am seriously considering going and having some therapy, because there is something going on about not bothering to try and then I can say I didn't really fail which is somewhat prevalent in other areas of my life too...

Many welcomes to Mychild and esp. jenda yes it's going to work for you as well HONEST!! .

There's a definite negative attached to obsessive weighing by P.M. so I don't know how much weight I loose or lost in a month I DO know that I follow my blood type (with P.Mk.) and low carb is natural for me anyway and have done for many years; the only change I made recently which involved me reaching my target of size10 M&S clothes was cutting right down on avocadoes and soya milk.

Stripey I don't remember saying that exactly but it's true anyway !!! .

heynonny You're very lucky with yr fruit do you sell at farmers markets?

Ali step away from the wine if you're feeling sick, maybe tired too?Yeah today is a new day!! Morning everyone BTW!!!!!

Oh sorry welcome to heynonny as well!

Oh Ali it's only a few lbs! P.M. is right about weighing IMO if it depresses you to such an extent

I am seriously considering going and having some therapy, because there is something going on about not bothering to try and then I can say I didn't really fail which is somewhat prevalent in other areas of my life too...

Absolutely agree with this. I'm such a bugger at starting things then stopping a couple of days later. I think I'm frightened it won't work out, or I convince myself it's too much effort (lazy Kinky).

I actually went to a therapist before Christmas because of all the stress from DD, and it wound up to talking about eating as it has always been my coping mechanism. He traced it right back to the start. It was quite interesting. We figured out that I began overeating when I was about 6, which was a reaction to more pressure at school at that age (my memories of this time were more vivid), and, I think, my mum having my brother. Neither of these things bother me in the slightest as an adult, but I must have been pretty stressed as a kid. It was quite interesting as I'd never thought about what caused that connection (eating as a reaction to being stressed).

Anyway, I think when you have an established pattern of reaction, it's going to take some hard work to try and change it. I've been using comfort food for 26 years! All the therapist would do to try and break the association is the same kinds of things in PMK, but at least you would get some extra support? We have stress every day in some way, so until the pattern is broken, it will always be your automatic reaction.

This year, when DD has been really ill in hospital, I feel so hungry that it physically hurts me - I get pain and cramps. But it's not hunger, it's misery .

I hope I can change too, and I really wish you luck Ali. It is the hardest thing we will ever do, I think.

It's ironic, because even attempting to change a life pattern that gives you comfort - eating when stressed - is in itself stressful!

Morning everybody, new and old. This thread is really motoring at the moment isn't it? It wouldn't be January and New Year's Resolution time would it?!

Stripy - it was me who said that about natural spacing. Just wish I practiced what I preached a bit more! School holidays are the work of the devil and mealtimes always go to pot in the holidays especially when Christmas is involved so spacing has gone haywire here! No excuses next week.

Alibaba - I didn't know your DS had chickenpox. (Apologies for not reading the thread properly is you mentioned it before). I know somebody else's DD with it round our way. Seems we have ourselves something 'doing the rounds'. And whoever heard of a 9mth old not sleeping? Me!!! DS1 was a real bugger when it came to sleep and rarely did more than catnapped when we were out for the 1st year of his life which was hard!!! It took until he was a year old until he had a real daytime sleep. Probably followed on from when he was sleeping through at night. And then I got strict and started putting him in his cot awake and leaving him for half an hour and he started to sleep (not crying it out - he was as happy as Larry playing and I knew he could go to sleep by himself by then). It was a revelation to have 2 hours back in the day. I hope you can come to some arrangement with your DS2 sometime soon so that he might feel inclined to do the same although I bet he choses nursery pick up time to get sleepy!

And as for therapy, I have nothing to say on the matter because if you do, so do I! Let me know if you find a good local therapist won't you!!

Morning everybody, I hope you're all well :)

Something really strange happened last night. I'd done really well food wise yesterday and we decided to have a Chinese meal as a treat for dinner. I was starving by the time it was ready and ate a huge plateful, although less than I have in the past. Anyway. I felt really full and uncomfortable afterwards and ended up being sick . It wasn't the food as we'd all eaten the same. I'm wondering if it's the CD starting to work for me and it was a reaction to me stuffing my face?

Obviously I won't be getting into the routine of bringing my meals back up, but it's definitely made me change my thinking as I felt so poorly last night before I was sick.

Good luck everyone :) KinkyDorito I hope your DD is ok? Alibaba, I hope your DS isn't too uncomfortable x

Thanks MrsMeow. She has leukaemia and 18 months of chemo still to go, although she's now on maintenance dose and trying to phase back into school. We'll see how she goes. Did you eat your Chinese really quickly?

Sorry mychild welcome to you too. Ref. the non sleeping IME It often does cure itself when they start to move about properly!

kinky I'm impressed you have the oomph to manage thinking about weight loss, my cousin had leukaemia and everything just stopped in our family until she was better, which probably wasn't the best way to go about it! She is 15 now and just had her first part as a main dancer in panto this year.

Nonny thank you! It is all down to her being a dream baby though, and the birth being really easy...it is the universe still making up for demon baby DD1, 2 children later.

Roast chicken and balsamic roasted roots in the oven...I'm still not hungry though, haven't eaten anything yet today! I bought the app, quite like it so far and like the idea of having a panic button for while I'm out!

msbuggy It's nice to hear about children who has recovered and gone on to lead normal lives . She was dianosed a year ago next week. It's been hideous. I've comfort eaten my way up by 3st in that time. I need to get myself sorted out, otherwise I will be absolutely huge by the time she finishes treatment. It is really, really tough though - I spend such a lot of time feeling like I can't face doing anything because of it all.

Quick hello to everyone! have a great day :)

Kinky I don't know where you find the strength, I really admire you for trying to focus on yourself a bit.

Doing well so far today, and I have a roast planned for later and am not hungry at all now, so no need to go scoffing anything.

Kinky you don't need kick up bum, you need big hugs and many and which I'm sending you now.

Msbuggy Oooh tell me about the app, please?

I've managed a teeny breakfast today, teeny lunch and about to go to the allotment. I plug in the IPOD, get down and boogie and dig like a maniac. Sometimes I sing along too. So that's good exercise, if a bit embarassing.

Whoever asked, we don't sell our produce, we store as much as we can use and give the rest away. This year I had so many quinces I called in the WI who all came round to get fruit to make jelly. It's a faff TBH, but pretty good-life-esque, which is what we aspire to, when not slogging our guts out at work in London.

heynnonny I agree about kinky I send the same .

It was me who asked about yr produce; we live in Fr. for 6 months of the year I want to grow quinces and asked about buying a tree in our local market, they GET quinces here I LOVE the smell of them in the fruit bowl and also had grand ideas of making quince jelly BTW did the W.I. manage it did you get any? Blimey you work as well !

Do remember that P.M. is not about eating teeny meals unless you can't manage to eat more 'cos you're so full.

Just want to share my success...as it is my first day.

For lunch, I served myself half a chicken breast, a load of roasted roots and some roast potatoes. I ate half of the chicken I had, about half of the veg and two pieces of potato (because they tasted crap by the time they had been chewed 20 times!).

Had an emotional eating moment earlier...tapping sorted it though! Am off for a shower and primp now!

I'd be up for some of your fruit yield please HNN :)

Freaky stuff is occuring on my first proper day!

First thing I ate my toast at the table to be conscious and felt incredibly calm. I only ate 3/4 of a slice of 2 slices . And it had marmite, which I love.

But the really bizarre bit came at lunch when I sat down to eat, first mouthful and I put down my fork without thinking about it. I never do this, and I honestly wasn't thinking about it. DH was talking to me, I looked down, and there it was. Weird. I spent the rest of the meal, some of which I left, feeling incredibly pleased.

I am obviously very easily influenced, and if this method works, I will buy PMK's 'I will make you rich' next .

Thanks for flowers and hugs. It is what it is for us now, I need to learn to cope in better ways.

Kinky I'm sorry to hear about your DD. You sound ever so strong though, which I'm sure helps her a lot :)

I did pig my Chinese I was just so hungry! It's definitely put me off though, everyone else had pizza for dinner tonight and I just felt Ill at the thought so I had soup instead.

Thanks MrsMeow. It certainly makes you feel like eating lots less, which is very odd for me. I had beans with one slice of toast for tea as I couldn't face a big cooked meal. Long may it continue! I'll be a whippet in 3 months .