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Paul McKenna's Successful Eating Thread (part 5)

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SoloIsAHotCougar · 22/05/2011 22:21

The Golden Rules that will aid you on your journey with our like minded support system:

  1. Eat what you WANT
  2. Eat when you are HUNGRY
  3. Eat CONCIOUSLY
  4. STOP when you are satisfied

I've C&P'd part 4's links as they are helpful.

Here is the book on AMAZON which is all you need to get started!

This is the tapping technique EXPLAINED - this can be useful for cravings.

Please feel free to join us

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MuffinsMummy · 08/06/2011 20:20

I'm going between not wanting to eat and wanting to eat everything . My emotion are up and down like a yo-yo at the moment!

I have lost nearly a stone but am hoping to tone up now. I started doing the 30 shred DVD last night but DD3 kept waking up so ended up going to bed instead.

Does everyone find the mirror exercise helps?

mummynoseynora · 08/06/2011 21:19

I have had an uberunhealthy Sausage wrap and oven chips for dinner... I thought about it and it WAS what I wanted so I made it... I put on about how much I thought I wanted and it turned out to be about half what I would normally eat! (a small handful of oven chips and one sausage)

I finished it all - but feel just right so if anything maybe ate one more mouthful than I should have... am pleased :)

Am feeling good after the CD too

(hope you don't mind me using the thread as a diary? If you would prefer please just say and I'll start a seperate thread)

GreenToes · 08/06/2011 21:26

Niecie and BsshBossh I'm actually a very positive person too. Everyone comments on how nothing ever gets me down. Things do bother me but it's never enough that I would describe myself as being unhappy. Obviously there are moments of sadness but they are fleeting. I sometimes feel like a bit of a fraud tbh, like I am incapable of real feelings or something. It sounds completely mad, I know.

A few years ago I realised I was sabotaging my relationship with my DP, in order to hurt myself maybe, or I don't know really. I managed to stop myself doing and I did try to explain to him but I was maybe 16 or 17 at the time and I think he just thought I was crazy and just smiled and nodded at what I said. Even now I sometimes find myself over-reacting or picking fights a bit, so maybe I still do sabotage that as well.

Honestly, the deeper I look into the feelings the more I think maybe it'd be better to just ignore them and carry on being slightly podgy instead Blush Hmm

mummynoseynora I haven't really done any of the exercises/imagining things as I just can't picture things very well but I'm going to dig out the book and have a go tonight and see if that helps at all.

I've been listening to the CD but keep falling asleep really deeply so I don't think it's going in; it's definitely not having the same effect it did when I first started.

shrinkingnora · 08/06/2011 21:44

Sorry, I shouldn't have posted that and not come back! Thanks for kind words - yes I have had clinical depression in the past but it is under control most of the time - Pauling really helps, generally. I am feeling a lot better today. I just need to remember to exercise and get enough sleep. Do not want to go down the medication route unless it is unavoidable.

I sabotage myself because I cannot let myself succeed. All exams have been unrevised for, OU degree all left til the last minute - often dropped my assignments at my tutor's house in the middle of the night! Also have always done jobs that I could easily excell at Hmm

I am liking digging deeper. I may try a bit more counselling but I think if I can work out what my inner saboteour is saying I can beat this. I think there may be a tiny fear that weigh issues are all there is to me Blush

BsshBossh · 08/06/2011 22:10

shrinkingnora, since you are (generally) clicking with the PMcK way of eating which is based on NLP, would it be worth seeking out a NLP or cognitive behavioural therapist to address the wider issues you are facing?

shrinkingnora · 08/06/2011 22:37

Ooooooh, good plan. My friend is a life coach and does NLP and is fabulous..... I am emailing her now.

Alibabaandthe80nappies · 08/06/2011 22:57

Evening everyone :)

Niecie - it is funny that we live so close, I keep wondering if people I see out and about are you Grin

nora - I think I can beat this too if can get to the bottom of it. I had some counselling about 18 months ago while I was taking ADs for PND, and we touched on my issues around food and weight. It is all tied up with my relationship with my mother, which is a can of worms I am not 100% sure I want to open up

mummynosey - feel free to use this as a diary. I am finding it very cathartic both posting my own ramblings and reading everyone else's. It is enormously comforting actually to realise that I'm no more screwed up than any number of other people Wink

Muffin - with regards to the mirror exercise, I find it impossible to find enough time in my day. I've taken to doing solo's quick version as I rush past the full-length mirror 'nice bum' etc. Grin

Today has gone ok. I did rather fall into the bread bin earlier, but just had poached eggs on toast for dinner rather than a big meal and then a little yoghurt with raspberries when I felt hungry later on. So I have balanced across the day.

I am hungry now - should I eat or just go to bed (10 week old baby permitting) and start again tomorrow?

MuffinsMummy · 09/06/2011 00:05

Thanks aliba I think I might give the quick version a go I can do that at work in the toilet mirror but will say it in my head in case someone is in there :)

I don't think I have the same issues with food I'm overweight because I was eating too much crap! I would have toast or a cooked breakfast at work at about 10 then at lunch I would have a cooked lunch sometimes with pudding. At about 3 I would feel bored / stressed / fed up and have chocolate and / or crisps then a cooked dinner when I got home. If I felt like it I would then have more chocolate in the evening.

Now I eat mostly 3 meals a day with no chocolate, crisps or pudding. So far I am 2 1/2 lbs off losing a stone.

I do however have issues when it comes to relationships! I tend to keep everything bottled up until it gets too much and then explode! I can go from being happy to angry as quick as clicking my fingers. I don't know what it is but until I sort myself out should probably stay single :(

SoloIsAHotCougar · 09/06/2011 00:22

I've had a better day in all today. Not eaten nearly as much as I have the three preceding days :) and I did do my exercise class too, which worked me hard in a slow, stretching fashion Wink.
Still no AF and I'm thinking that she's just not visiting again this month :( and I miss her...

Right, keep chins up ladies and see you tomorrow at some point.

Night!!!

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Niecie · 09/06/2011 01:39

I saw this in a magazine at the weekend. It might be useful for those who find it hard to visualise what you will look like slimmer although it is a bit pricey. And you have the angst of looking for a before/fat photo! There haven't been many photos of me in recent years and I would quite like to keep it that way!

Shrinkingnora - I like the idea of a life coach. Let us know if you find it helpful.

Not been too bad this evening which makes a change this week. It has been a tough few days hasn't it?

PositiveAttitude · 09/06/2011 06:58

Good morning ladies,

I haven't been able to post for a few days due to internet issues, but have just had a mammoth read through of all your posts over the past few days. Its been a bit heavy in here, hasn't it! So interesting that we all struggle in the same way. One thing that I have often thought is that I am a very "all or nothing" person and can easily become nearly obsessed with certain things. I have thought that if I actually like alcohol more I would easily fall into being an alcoholic.

Yesterday was a bit disasterous not the best for a couple of reasons: 1) DD3's 17th birthday, so we went to pizzahut for lunch, then had a family "party" in the evening, lots of food prepared, cooked and eaten. Blush and 2) DD4 has been cranking up her teenage attitude and we are majorly clashing at the moment. SHe is putting huge strain on family life and I had a fit of the comfort eating after she had gone to school yesterday, before she arrived home, as I was anticipating clashes, and when she was out in the evening, after the party tea, too!! This was my worst day in over 7 weeks, but still not as bad as it had been 8 weeks ago, IYSWIM.

I have a "friend" who did Lighter life last year. I say "friend" because I really dont like her, but she seems to be drawn to me, I think, because we shared the same size-ish! Hmm She did amazingly well, losing loads of weight. She looked good, but then I feel went a bit too far and looked quite haggard. She tried to get me to do LL regularly, but i really didnt like the thought of it, despite the results she was having. One really negative side affect was that she had really awful bad breathe that could permeate a whole room within a few breaths!! She stopped doing it earlier this year and has since put on some of the weight and is now back at WW. I think it is such an unhealthy way to lose weight, though. I am sure it is healthier to be obese than to starve yourself like that!

I also did a fair bit of googling when I noticed how much weight Pauline Quirke had lost > She is doing the LL, apparently.

I am not hungry yet this morning and after yesterday's indulgences I probably wont be for a week while! Wink
Working from home today and I aim to drink LOTS of water.

I hope that some of those positive vibes are coming back for everyone on here! Smile HAve a good day.

TheOriginalFAB · 09/06/2011 07:55
Alibabaandthe80nappies · 09/06/2011 09:41

Morning everyone. I have woken up in a more positive frame of mind, and I feel slimmer - somehow smoother if that makes any sense to anyone!
Having a lovely breakfast of yoghurt, fruit and nuts. I think I need to try and steer clear of the carbs a bit. Not entirely, but too many leave me feeling sluggish and slow, which makes me want to eat more.

TheOriginalFAB · 09/06/2011 10:34

Just done 1 hour on the rowing machine. Will think about what I am eating today and remember to wait until I feel properly hungry as that has gone out of the window after a difficult few days emotionally/mentally.

Joltek · 09/06/2011 12:54

It's irritating to not be hungry in the only bit of time I have spare to have lunch in today. Stupid late breakfast.

Having quite a hunger lacking day today which is good and will hopefully make up for yesterday when I could have eaten an elephant. I'm out drinking tonight tho so I suspect tomorrow will mainly be driven by hangover munchie cravings. :)

Niecie · 09/06/2011 20:44

Hello, quiet round here today! Hope everybody is OK.

I haven't had a bad day so far. I have felt a bit bleurgh today which means I haven't been very hungry. Not a bad thing although I would rather not feel bleurgh in order to achieve this state of not hungryness.

FAB - a whole hour on a rowing machine? That is very impressive. I wouldn't last 5 minutes!

PositiveAttitude - yes LL seems to work that way. People get great results and then immediately put it all back on. And it must be a massive struggle to lose that weight too. I was just wondering about it because I think the counselling thing is a really good idea (although I suspect the LL leaders aren't properly trained counsellors, just LL trained iyswim). I just don't think you can talk about sensible, healthy eating and how to beat the emotional eating whilst on a virtual starvation diet. Even if they did the counselling first and then the diet it might work better but doing them simultaneously is doomed to disaster imo.

Niecie · 09/06/2011 20:54

Oops pressed post too soon.

I was going to say I haven't seen Pauline Quirke looking slimmer but did anybody see Dawn French on the front of several of the newspapers? She has apparently lost 5 stone. She looks good and is supposedly a size 16 but unless she is only 4ft tall I can't see it myself. (I know that sounds mean but she still isn't slim by anybody's standards and still looks obese to me) Anyway, I actually think she would be wise, from the point of view of her face, not to lose much more. I have always thought she has a lovely face and looked young for her age but I think she is will end up looking a lot older if she loses too much more. It isn't fair that we have to compromise on the body or the face is it?! I want it alllllll!!!Smile

SoloIsAHotCougar · 09/06/2011 23:14

Had a better day today...

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TheOriginalFAB · 10/06/2011 08:09

That is good Solo.

I have lost the 2lbs I put back on after losing it before so didn't lose any extra from having my period but any loss is good and I will take it!

BsshBossh · 10/06/2011 09:27

This morning I took my DD to her childminder's and I wore: tight cut off jeans, fitted ti-shirt and a fitted cardigan that does not cover my bum. This is the first time I've gone out not wearing a single item of baggy clothing and I am so happy!!!! My DH said I looked sleek and groomed and sexy Grin.

MuffinsMummy · 10/06/2011 10:02

Nice one BsshBossh that comment from your DH must have made you feel great :)

I saw a friends mum this morning for the first time since I have lost weight and she commented on how well I look. She said I look more confident and happy in the way I am walking which was fab Grin

I have just got back from the school run so going to have some breakfast then taking DD2 into town to buy a balance bike and to get a copy of my marriage certificate so I can get divorced. I am feeling more positive today and long may it last! :)

Good luck everyone have a good day Pauling. If I'm struggling I find it easier to focus on today and not think about where I am going as it can put a bit of pressure on IYSWIM!

Ephiny · 10/06/2011 10:04

Good for you Bssh, I bet you looked fabulous, and nice that your DH actually noticed, mine can be a bit oblivious to any changes in appearance :)

I've had a bad few days in terms of eating, a bad week really, but am going to try to get back on track today. I feel so much better, emotionally and physically, when I'm eating according to my needs, just need to remember that when I'm tempted to try to make myself feel better with food.

Niecie · 10/06/2011 15:25

BsshBosch and Muffin - How lovely to get nice comments from other people. It makes your day, doesn't it?Smile

FAB - good news about the 2lbs.Smile

I've just been to 2 sports days with a joint school picnic in between (infants and juniors on the same site). Oh and the infants art exhibition. I think I have been standing up for 4.5 hours solid, except for 20 minutes for lunch. Why is just standing up so much harder than moving around?! If I had been on a shopping trip or sight seeing I doubt I would barely notice my feet. As it is they are killing me. Never mind, at least I haven't been tempted to eat as I haven't been home or even near a shop.

MuffinsMummy · 10/06/2011 21:13

Niecie it is really lovely helps with motivation a lot! I find if I'm standing around a lot I get terrible backache, bad posture I think, but if I'm walking I don't.

My team at work (4 people) have started a bit of a walking club. So far we have done a 9 mile walk across the moors and the others (I was poorly :( ) did an 8.5 mile walk around wookey hole. Next month we are starting to a coast to coast walk of Devon. It is 117 miles in total so will take at least 7 walks to complete starting with a 15 miles section. I am really loving it and wish I could do it more often but I have 3 DDs and can't get sitters that often.

I can't believe how simple this plan is! It isn't always easy and there are times when I want to over eat due to stress or boredom but it's nowhere near as complicated and confusing as WW and SW!

Right that's my essay over off to get ready for DDs day with their dad tomorrow, well 4 hours but I suppose it's a start! Then 30 day shred, do you think it's ok to not do it every day? I have done it every other day this week.

Have a good night all.

PositiveAttitude · 11/06/2011 10:09

I am a happy-ish bunny again. Grin After a major falling off the wagon since Wednesday's birthday celebrations with DD3, it seemed to open the floodgates to all my old habits and it felt like an unstoppable train.
THEN....... AF arrived last night, so I now feel as if I understand why it has all happened. Not too sure if that is a reason, or an excuse Confused , but whichever it is, it makes me feel better and more able to get back on track.

Monday should be my fortnightly weigh, but I am going to try and wait until later in the week, or even the next week, to hopefully lose what I undoubtedly have put on over the past couple of days.

This was my first major blip in nearly 8 weeks, so not too bad, i suppose.

I watched "Supersize vs superskinny" last night to try and get me back on track a bit. Good start so far today.

Hope you all have a good weekend. Smile