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A space to talk openly about weight loss journeys and challenges. Mumsnet hasn't checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. You may wish to speak to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Paul McKenna WILL make us thin! Part 4.

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HowToLookGoodGlaikit · 04/05/2011 10:00

Sparkling new thread Grin

Firstly, the Golden Rules

  1. Eat what you WANT
  2. Eat when you are HUNGRY
  3. Eat CONCIOUSLY
  4. STOP when you are satisfied

Here is the book on Amazon which is all you need to get started!

This is the tapping technique explained - this can be useful for cravings.

Please feel free to join us :)

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onesandwichshort · 18/05/2011 19:57

Dr Muffy - I completely agree with you (and silvery) it is a huge thing. It's a change, and doing something different and that's a great start. (and isn't it wierd when your habits just change like that, it's what I felt like ordering the expresso today?)

Silvery - are you hungry?

Solo, have just been to look at that thread and am even more bemused than Hmm + Confused. But I suppose if you think you are never going to stop eating if you start, then it's hard to imagine ever having control.

Off now to cook a Jamie O fish korma; I am hungry (having eaten really not very much today) and it will be yummy!

onesandwichshort · 18/05/2011 19:59

PA x posted! So I am just going to have to learn to live with it... Grin

SilveryMoon · 18/05/2011 19:59

I don't know one I just know I want something.

PositiveAttitude · 18/05/2011 20:08

One - if you dont learn to live with it you will end up insane like me! Grin

BsshBossh · 18/05/2011 20:11

Hello all, wow this thread is moving so fast that I can't keep up. Well, since falling ill with the flu over a week ago my eating has gone all over the place. The first week I hardly ate anything and then this week I'm so blocked up and have an ear ache that I can't seem to determine when I'm hungry and full so am "guessing" (ie going by my typical, post-Pauling portion sizes). But I jumped on the scales this afternoon (weigh in not due until Saturday) and found I've remained the same weight - so nothing lost in 2 weeks, but nothing gained so it's fine but I really need to get all my senses back again. I hope I get better soon Sad.

Stickwithit · 18/05/2011 20:51

Hi paulers. I found this thread last Thursday and have started Pauling. Thank you everyone who answered my initial questions, I am so grateful because I have lost 2lb since Thursday. I can hardly believe it. I know I shouldn't have weighed myself but I couldn't resist it.

I can't believe that the sensible concept of only eating when hungry hadn't occurred to me before.

I have been following the thread which has been a huge help. Congratulatons to everyone who has lost and a huge thankyou to everyone for supporting and guiding each other- it's so helpful.

I am still trying to get to grips with the rules. The main thing that is troubling me is how infrequently I am truly hungry, and how little I need to eat to feel satisfied. Eg today I've eaten a banana at 10am, a ham salad sandwich for lunch. I haven't been hungry since lunchtime (was looking forward to garlic bread as soon as I get hungry). I'm really pleased in a way but I do have a nagging worry that I'm in starvation mode and will fall into the trap of loosing too much and will pile it all back on plus extra. I hope that makes sense and apologise for moaning about not bring hungry- it sounds so silly.

Can anyone tell me if it's ok to eat so little?

BsshBossh · 18/05/2011 21:01

Welcome Stickwithit. I too am shocked at how little my body needs to eat for it to feel satisfied. I probably eat half as much (perhaps even more) than I used to but I'm confident I'm not in starvation mode as I feel (when not ill!) satisfied and have loads of energy. If you feel the same then I doubt you're in starvation mode - you're probably eating just the right amount your body needs. We all need to trust our bodies more Smile.

franke · 18/05/2011 21:01

Yes, it's ok Stickwithit. When I started I was almost Blush at how little I actually needed to eat compared to how much I'd been putting away. I think at the beginning you really just need to a) have a glass of water if you think you might be hungry and b) then just eat a little if you think you might still be hungry and then eat a little more if you think you're still hungry after that. You WILL get the hang of it.

Howtolook suggested further up the thread, that you should let yourself get really hungry sometime just to reinforce how it feels - that's a really good idea. At the beginning your eating times will probably be out of kilter with the rest of your family, but after a while (a short while) you will be able to control the hunger to coincide with your family again. Hope this isn't too garbled Smile In short, you're doing fine Grin

TheOriginalFAB · 18/05/2011 21:05

I just comfort ate some jam roly poly Sad.

Alibabaandthe80nappies · 18/05/2011 21:07

Bssh - your body will have been holding onto it's 'reserves' because you've been poorly. I would anticipate a really good loss this next fortnight if you carry on as you are :)

stick - I'm sure it's ok, as long as it doesn't go on forever - hopefully your body is using up the extra weight!

Silvery - go and drink some water, if you are still hungry in half an hour then eat a lolly or whatever you like Grin

Hello DrMuffy :)

I have done pretty well today, and I was skipping about the house doing my jobs even though DS1 has driven me potty today. He is another dreamer, totally on his own planet, and God forbid that I should try and drag him away from his book/game/whatever for a meal or to go to preschool Hmm

Alibabaandthe80nappies · 18/05/2011 21:08

FAB - don't beat yourself up. Did you enjoy it? It just might be a bit longer tomorrow morning before you are hungry again, that is all :)

TheOriginalFAB · 18/05/2011 21:15

I didn't enjoy it that much but it was home made and it would have been nicer warm.

franke · 18/05/2011 21:15

yy Ali! This is what I love about this method: tomorrow is another day. I often don't even think about breakfast until about 10am if I've had a few treats the evening before Grin

BsshBossh · 18/05/2011 21:24

Alibabaandthe80nappies, thank you so much. Exactly what I need to hear and also that makes perfect sense Smile. My DH's been ill too and he's ravenous and his eating is all over the place (he's a healthy weight and has always eaten the PMcK way since childhood). I am relieved reading your comment so thanks Smile.

HowToLookGoodGlaikit · 18/05/2011 21:28

I just did day 1 week 1 of the C25k running, sheesh it was hard to start with! Feeling elated but tired now. Heaving my weight along is some feat. I'll tell you! Picture Dawn French running Grin

stickwithit- it such a shock when you realise hwo little food you actually need! And you wont pile it back on, as this is how you will eat forever :) As long as you dont slip back into your overeating for emotional reasons, you will remain a skinny minny!

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Celestialstarlight · 18/05/2011 21:31

I'm with you Fab. I have just unconciously ate a packet of cheese and onion crisps...and I wasn't even hungry and I mindfully overate at dinner this eveningShock
I was complaining today to Dh today that I'm putting weight on. I haven't lost anything since I started Pauling 2 months ago. No wonder when I am repeatedly not following the priciples!

BsshBossh · 18/05/2011 21:33

FAB, I know you know that food isn't going to solve your problems and actually eating it isn't really "comforting" is it? I tend to comfort eat too (generally when I'm bored) but I'm taking steps to recognise that food isn't going to alleviate boredom but action is. Only you know what steps you need to take to resolve the issues in your life but food won't be the answer.

And please, be kind to yourself. I know it's hard. Keep reaching out on here (or any RL friends) but don't reach out to food unless you're physically hungry for it.

PS: I'm lecturing myself here too!

shrinkingnora · 18/05/2011 21:34

I am back from my first Taekwondo lesson and it was fabulous. I really loved it and I honestly don't think that I would have had the courage to do it without Paul's help. And the coach didn't say oi fatty, get out, no chance of helping you. He just asked me questions about my current fitness level and helped me formulate a plan. Twas excellent Grin

Eating going fairly well here - I am having the odd bingey moment but it means I then don't eat for ages afterwards as I am not hungry for hours.

Don't worry about the jam rolypoly fab - at least you are now very aware that you are eating to change your feelings. It is really hard to find a new way of dealing with the way you are feeling when you are used to reaching for food. Hopefully it will become easier to work through the feelings or do something different to change things. Keep calm and carry on. You're doing great.

I agree that it is shocking how little ones body needs - I am also finding it fairly revolting when I watch other people eat huge amounts of crap that they don't need and barely chew. I am feeling hyperaware of it at the moment.

TheOriginalFAB · 18/05/2011 21:35

It is the first time I have eaten when I haven't been hungry and I did it as I was upset with DH. I tell myself I am allowed one slip and I will start again tomorrow.

Funnily enough I had breakfast at half 7 today and have failed just now. Other days breakfast was after 9 and I have done really well.

Stickwithit · 18/05/2011 21:39

Thanks everyone. Glad to hear others have been surprised by how infrequently they feel hungry. I keep thinking I feel hungry buy it is just my mouth watering while I daydream about something delicious. Proper tummy rumbling hunger (which I had forgotten about until I found this thread as I was forever eating) is hardly ever happening.

fab I am not sure anyone could make jam roly-poly, watch their DC eat it and then not finish it up themselves. That would take a will of iron. You are fab to be making a delicious jam roly-poly while doing this.

shrinkingnora · 18/05/2011 21:40

You are allowed as many slips as you need. The beauty of this way of eating is that you can't go over your allowance of food and then say fuck it and trash the rest of the day. You can just go back to eating when you are hungry. Do you think maybe you weren't hungry at breakfast? Or do you think that you maybe needed a little more food today?

I said I would report back on Oil of Evening Primrose - I didn't get any Pmt this month. I will keep going with it and see what happens for the next few months but I am quietly optimistic Grin

TheOriginalFAB · 18/05/2011 21:54

Normally I can't face breakfast that early but I just really fancied some weetabix this morning.

TheOriginalFAB · 18/05/2011 21:55

I don't have PMT when I take Agnus Castus. I keep forgetting to take it though.

SoloIsAHotCougar · 19/05/2011 01:01

I got the munchies tonight and ended up having some yoghurt unconsciously :( otherwise not been too bad.
I'm a bit miffed that I no longer seem to like Frank Coopers very expensive marmalade; it tastes too sweet now and yet the reason I loved it was because it was strong and bitter and certainly wasn't sweet so I'm Confused

CheerfulYank · 19/05/2011 04:09

I think I Pauled today. I don't know.

I'm having a rough time in my marriage and life in general and I know that getting a handle on this weight thing would make me feel better and instead I eat for a temporary fix.

:(

I'm terrible at being sad, I'm an annoyingly buoyant person usually (hence the name) so you see I've got no practice at being upset. (Practise? We only have one form of the word here, lest you think I'm thick. :) )

Not to bring down the thread, I just...I don't know what to do.

Tomorrow's another day, though. Going to read my Paul journal now.