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Paul McKenna WILL make us thin! Part 4.

955 replies

HowToLookGoodGlaikit · 04/05/2011 10:00

Sparkling new thread Grin

Firstly, the Golden Rules

  1. Eat what you WANT
  2. Eat when you are HUNGRY
  3. Eat CONCIOUSLY
  4. STOP when you are satisfied

Here is the book on Amazon which is all you need to get started!

This is the tapping technique explained - this can be useful for cravings.

Please feel free to join us :)

OP posts:
TheOriginalFAB · 15/05/2011 19:20

knave - she said I couldn't cope with the kids I had so why would I want more. We had more and now can't have any naturally. I strongly suspect that any children we adopted wouldn't be accepted as true Fabs by her.

ObiWanKenobi · 15/05/2011 19:22

Glaikit I will. As soon as I trust myself enough.

That other thread sounds awful. I can't imagine wanting to do that or being able to function while trying. It can't be healthy.

SilveryMoon · 15/05/2011 19:31

PA Softer. But that's because I'm drinking more squash, tea water and eating less crap.
Today was the first time in over a week that I had a fizzy drink.
I know, about the seat, crazy isn't it? My friend thinks it's a load of crap, is an excuse.

Sorry guys, been asleep all afternoon!
knave Love the new name.
PA Namechanger = jam tarts

We have beef and onion pie and onion rings or chips for dinner. CBA to cook proper food today. I'm gonna have pie and onion rings.

Re chocolate, I was thinking of using PM's permanent craving buster so I never eat it again..........not because I think it's what makes me gain weight or anything, but because when I get chocolate, it controls me, not the other way round

neepsntatties · 15/05/2011 19:31

Hi all, I am really interested in this! My fear is that I don't trust myself to want to eat the right things. I want to eat crap basically, chocolate mainly and carbs and cheese. And wine.

SilveryMoon · 15/05/2011 19:37

neep come on in and join us. There is no need for fear here. if you are hungry and you want chocolate, then you can eat it!!
If you are hungry and you want crap, that is fine. That is what you are supposed to do with this system.
You eat what you want and not what you think you should.
The 4 rules to this system are on the OP, have a look and get started. Make your next meal an enjoyable one and start Pauling Wink

neepsntatties · 15/05/2011 19:40

But won't I just keep eating crap forever? Or do you start to not want it? I can't imagine not wanting to eat crap.

SilveryMoon · 15/05/2011 19:49

No and no. You will eat what ever it is that you want. You will learn to control your tendency to over-eat.
This i not baout what you eat, but how and when you eat.
We are all overweight because we eat more than our bodies need or ask for.
But, because you will start to actually listen to your body and respond, you may find that you won't snack as often, but you really will not have to cut out any food. Nothing is forbidden.
have a chocolate muffin every day for breakfast if you want, just follow the 4 rules and the weight will start to come off.
Lots of us have lots a few lbs in 1 week which is great.
Other who have been doing it longer have lost loads too.

You don't even have to believe this will work (I was not convinced), just follow the rules

BsshBossh · 15/05/2011 20:01

Neeps, you can eat whatever you want, including crap. But one of the rules is "eat consciously" and it's that rule that has made a big difference in what I now eat. I put on weight because I chowed down on crisps and biscuits and chocolate. I ate really healthy, homecooked food too and loads of salads and veggies (for every meal) but it was the crap I snacked on that put the pounds on.

You know what happened? When I started to slow the eating right down and eat mindfully, really savouring the food inside my mouth then crisps and fries suddenly seemed really oily on my tongue - cloying - and chocolate (the cheap stuff like Snickers that I loved) just tasted strange. Now I can have six crisps and that's enough to satisfy; ditto chocolate, except now it's the good, dark stuff I like and just two squares of that (or a square of Dairy Milk!) is enough for me.

Crap tastes awful when eaten really slowly!

I've been on this for 11 weeks now and prefer snacking on grapes now.

neepsntatties · 15/05/2011 20:04

It sounds brilliant. I don't know why I feel a bit scared! I think my relationship with food is just so messed up. I find it hard to eat without distraction. I can't relax when eating so always want tv on or something so that will be a big change for me.

Will I need the book?

neepsntatties · 15/05/2011 20:05

Do you never eat in front of the TV now then?

knaveofhearts · 15/05/2011 20:09

PA Sorry, I appear to have imagined a rant from you! Run has obviously left me slightly bonkers....Blush.

Obi was the jam tart binger, ladywhiteadder.

SilveryMoon · 15/05/2011 20:27

neeps We always eat with the tv on too.
I do now sit at the tabke instead of on sofa and I will look at my plate, not the telly.
You don't need the book, no. There are some good pointers in there though and a journal to help keep you focused, but you can do it fine without the book.
I have a 'mind-altering' cd that I couldn't do this without, but not all of us are using it (I don't think???)

franke · 15/05/2011 21:11

neeps - as silvery says you don't need the book but I would recommend it because in it he reinforces all the principles and really drives them home. You can pick up an earlier edition 2nd hand on Amazon for pennies which hopefully also will have the cd included (but not the journal).

Well I started this about mid-March. I was fed up of feeling shit about the way I looked and decided to take back control of the way I was eating. I didn't have much to lose and very quickly dropped quite a bit of weight (don't ask me how much - I don't know!); once that happened I expected it to be touch and go whether I kept the weight off. Well so far I have kept it off. I fit comfortably into clothes I'd given up on about 3 years ago and I like the way I look. I suppose I'm not really Pauling any more in the strict sense of the word, BUT I feel I have really settled into eating portions appropriate for my body, I no longer feel the need to eat masses like I was a couple of months ago. I actually don't mind feeling hungry - it feels normal and natural and fuels the anticipation of eating something really yummy - be that a bit of choc or a lovely salad. I still love my food, but I'm no longer controlled by it. As I said, I didn't have much to lose (although could do with losing a bit more) BUT this has adjusted my relationship with food and weight loss has followed on from that and is a continuing process.

I suppose I want to say YOU CAN DO THIS. Keep it up, be kind to yourselves but also be honest with yourselves. If you need a helping hand, keep reading the book; I said on a previous thread that I was pleasantly surprised by how kind he was in the way he wrote. It is really inspiring. And of course, stick with this thread - I'm just a lurker mostly but it has helped me no end Smile

PositiveAttitude · 15/05/2011 21:20

I am getting slightly paranoid on this thread! Grin Knave imagining me ranting and Silvery getting me confused with someone else, I think! Confused

As for chocolate, I used to eat loads, but now I can happily eat a chocolate from the box and close the lid. Shock I have a box here that was an Easter present and it is still a quarter full and DS has been digging in. I just really enjoy the one i have sooo much more than the handful I would have scoffed in 2 minutes.

Feeling a little too full for comfort this evening. I cant believe how little I have to eat now to be full. I would have eaten so much more before Paul and still not felt at all full. I actually find the "hungry" feeling quite pleasant to start with, but really hate the "full" feeling, so it is really working for me. Just give it a go, Neeps, I was the hugest sceptic and was very anti-McKenna, but now cant say enough good stuff about it! I enjoy eating what I want to, but I have found that I am wanting fresh fruit and vegetables more than before, when I felt I should have them.

neepsntatties · 15/05/2011 21:55

I am excited by the thought of not having to be hungry. I have been hungry for years.

SilveryMoon · 15/05/2011 21:57

franke Thanks for that, was lovely to read your post. Glad it's going well for you and it's good to know that we will all get there with controlling our eating. Thank ypu again.

PA I got you confused with someone else? When? I hadn't realised, sorry!

SilveryMoon · 15/05/2011 22:00

Like the rest of us neeps You'll prbably find that what you've been thinking is physical hunger, is actually emotional hunger.
there are some good bits in the book about calming yourself with visualisations etc that I have found useful.
So now when I get wound up and want to eat, I try to do one of these exercises and is normally enough to re-program my brain for that moment.

neepsntatties · 15/05/2011 22:24

Yes I think I eat for comfort a lot. I also used to restrict a lot so was pretty much hungry and grumpy all the time.

SoloIsAHotCougar · 15/05/2011 22:44

Yooooo Hooooooooo!!! Hello, hello Grin how are you all?

franke · 16/05/2011 06:38

neeps you sound like a prime candidate for this. As you say, restricting food makes you hungry and grumpy, it also makes you obsess about food, which as we know isn't healthy at all. I found at the beginning of this there was a certain amount of obsessing but it was more linked to learning how it felt to really feel hungry - did I actually need to eat anything? After a couple of weeks I'd learned to recognise the new sensations so everything became much more relaxed.

PositiveAttitude · 16/05/2011 07:06

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
Just hopped on the scales! One Grin per lb lost over the last 2 weeks, 5lb more - thats a stone in total now in 4 weeks. Grin
From the worlds biggest skeptic, its not that bad eh?
And for anyone lurking, or doubting, I can honestly say I have eaten as much chocolate as I have really wanted, I have eaten out with friends, had cakes, cheese and all the yummy food that I love. I have never felt grumpy through lack of food.
Yesterday DH kept looking at me in a quizzical way and 3 times he said "you look really nice today!" I havent told him, or anyone else, what I am doing, I am waiting for him to realise that I have lost weight before saying anything. I have so much to lose that 1 stone is not that noticeable to others, but I can certainly notice it.

Silvery, sorry, it was your " PA Namechanger = jam tarts" comment at 7.30 last evening that i| was referring to.

HowToLookGoodGlaikit · 16/05/2011 07:14

Hey solo hope all is well with you? :)

PA Well done !!!!! Thats fantastic!

I did a modified day 1 week 1 of Couch to 5k last night, to see if I could do it - and I can! I can run! Who'da thunk it? I am blown away, I am a massive person and this is a huge acheivement for me.

OP posts:
SilveryMoon · 16/05/2011 07:26

Oh yeah PA I meant Obi didn't I? Sorry Blush
Well done on the weight loss! a stone in 4 weeks is great!
HowTo That's great. Good luck with it Smile

Well, ds1 broke my scales yesterday by jumping on the glass bit. Sod.

ppeatfruit · 16/05/2011 07:37

hello all I have to admit here that i had a blip in my 'maintenance' i'm not weighing i can just see in the mirror and my clothes tell me! but no worries i'm back on now and it's working again!!

ppeatfruit · 16/05/2011 07:43

it's good to hear from Franke again and i agree neeps needs this,CONGRATS to P.A and Howto and Blimey and anyone else who's doing well. Haven't heard from nevergoogle for a while, everything okay never?