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Paul McKenna WILL make us thin! Part 4.

955 replies

HowToLookGoodGlaikit · 04/05/2011 10:00

Sparkling new thread Grin

Firstly, the Golden Rules

  1. Eat what you WANT
  2. Eat when you are HUNGRY
  3. Eat CONCIOUSLY
  4. STOP when you are satisfied

Here is the book on Amazon which is all you need to get started!

This is the tapping technique explained - this can be useful for cravings.

Please feel free to join us :)

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SoloIsAHotCougar · 14/05/2011 10:56

Morning all! pp, why kelp before bed? I know kelp is a fat burner (iodine or something, can't remember)...is that the reason or does it aid sleep? I'm not sleeping well right now :(

SilveryMoon · 14/05/2011 11:39

Pea, I used to go to a sure start centre lots, I even worked at my local one for a while. I did suggest it when I learnt that she wasn't taking the baby out (so this was 2 yrs ago) and she was staying in all the rtime.
Her poor dh has had to reduce his work hours so he can be at home more plus do all the food shopping etc.
The only place they go is to his parents
There is a cultural difference so I don't know what's culturally the norm for her and her community.
She has the garden backing onto her flat (I'm directly above) and they don't even go out there, they don't have the door open often either.
I do really feel for the kids. They are all gonna be hit hard next year when her eldest is due to start nursery. If she sends him.

TheOriginalFAB · 14/05/2011 13:00

Hello everyone!

Just to quickly answer the question I was asked. I won't be pregnant again as DH had to have the snip due to it being life threatening for me to have another baby. Bit silly to be sad really but I wouldn't have wanted to stop probably.

I feel like I am eating less than usual most of the time but are actually recognising the feelings of hunger and acting on them rather than starving myself as the clock doesn't say it is time to eat. I will have water if I don't believe that I can be hungry again but if I still am I will eat.

Today I have had a banana and 2 1/2 home made cheese, onion and parsley muffins and a small piece of cheese. If I am hungry before dinner tonight I will have fruit.

Still haven't weighed myself. TBH I am putting it off as long as I can as I will be fed up if I haven't lost anything.

Hope everyone else is well.

SilveryMoon · 14/05/2011 13:29

I over-ate at lunch. We went to McDonalds.
I'm out on a hen do tonight, so no over-eating, just over-drinking for me Grin

StarlightMcKenzie · 14/05/2011 17:18

So what are the rules on drinking then?

I'm doing okay. Around 2.5 lbs the first week. The first half of which I did things 'properly' the second half of which was a bit rubbish but still......

PositiveAttitude · 14/05/2011 17:28

Ok, not doing too bad here, apart from eating when I was not really hungry last evening, I just wanted some cheese and biscuits!! Blush BUT I then was not hungry until lunch time today, so no breakfast at all.

Quick question... Alcohol????? What can I have?? anyone know the answer? I do always get the munchies after alcohol, so know I am going to have to be careful, but really fancy a very large glass or 4 tonight. Grin

Well done everyone on all your wonderful weightlosses. I am supposed to be weighing on Monday, but AF is on its way and I fear it could be more depressing than encouraging, so I may not until next weekend.

onesandwichshort · 14/05/2011 18:41

Hello everyone, and thanks for the support through my whining. I will take this as consolidation time and try to carry on. I will also take kelp before bedtime, and report back!

Solo - I genuinely think that the loss of sleep thing is because I am scared of being any thinner than I am. I got down very easily to the weight I've always been before DD, and then just can't get past that. It's too scary a place. But I will not give in. And the CDs seem to be sending me under again now, which they haven't done for ages, so I think this is a good sign.

Starlight and Positive. There are no rules for drinking - it's in the book. (His point being that there are plenty of thin alcoholics, so it ain't the drink that's the problem). But I just take it like food - savouring it, and asking myself if I really want the next glass.

BsshBossh · 14/05/2011 18:44

My understanding regarding alcohol and Pauling is this:

  • The problem with drinking too much is that it numbs the feeling of thirst and hunger and fullness so, in the beginning at least, try and keep drinking alcohol and eating food separate activities
  • Drinking can also mask what's really going on in our lives - what is it serving to mask eg
  • Ultimately he says that drinking never makes someone fat, it's eating

For me personally, alcohol makes me feel very full so on PMcK it means I simply eat less the more I drink! Or else I drink too much that I mindlessly stuff my face because I don't read my fullness/hunger signals correctly.

TBH, I wouldn't sweat over-indulgence of wine etc once in a while but be aware that if it's a regular thing then something else is up that you need to deal with.

Just my thoughts, as PMcK doesn't say much about drink as he doesn't think it causes people to become overweight.

shrinkingnora · 14/05/2011 19:05

Fab - not silly to be sad at all. Perhaps it is to do with the choice being taken away from you as much as anything.

Onesandwich - the joy of not weighing is that you do not know when you are near to those horrible mental blocks. It can be very helpful! I'm sure someone else on this thread or the last went through a bit of a milestone without realising but I could be talking crap

So, I am now blonde but not sure I am having any more fun yet. I made the Dan Lepard brownies from the Grauniad weekend and they were lush although I made a chocolate orange version rather than rum and mint - bit more child friendly, although quite liking the idea of brownies that are essentially mojito flavoured Grin They were lovely and I ate two small ones mindfully and as a result was not hungry for supper so have had a glass of water and a cup of tea. I think that my body knows when I have had enough calories IYSWIM. I used to try and fool it when doing SW and eat a huge bulk of salad or somesuch but it never worked.

Re alcohol, I find that Paul is making me more in control generally so that changes my alcohol intake considerably. I am much more likely to switch to soft drinks half way through the evening at the mo. Although if that applies at my party next week I will be somewhat surprised Grin

I was just reading back through this thread and it struck me how different and how much more effective this support is for me than a slimming club. I feel like I am taking responsibility for myself much more and when I need support it is very practical and a lot more emotionally accurate. You guys are good!

PS Fab - Please can I have the recipe for those muffins, they sound delicious.

PositiveAttitude · 14/05/2011 19:05

Oh no!!! Now you all think I am an alcoholic!! I am definitely not!! My Dh would laugh at the thought! I drink about once a month, maybe every 6 weeks and that's it!! I just fancy a tipple tonight!!

TheOriginalFAB · 14/05/2011 19:55

I will post the recipe tomorrow.

CheerfulYank · 14/05/2011 21:48

Marking place :)

In the middle of cleaning...friends coming over tomorrow to help paint. Huzzah!

Have been doing ok with Pauling, but still need to work on eating consciously and stopping when I'm full. One day at a time!

ObiWanKenobi · 14/05/2011 22:32

Hi All. Not doing too well here but have now got rid of all the crap in the house as I need my self control back before I can handle that, so I'm expecting good things from now on.

Re alcohol. I remember watching the TV series Paul did a few years ago and as far as I recall he said not to drink while eating as it made you less mindful. He also said not to drink for the first two weeks as you get into things. It was a few years ago though so hope I'm remembering correctly.

DingDongMerrilyOutOfSeason · 14/05/2011 23:26

FAB It's hard when the choice is taken away, even if it's the choice you would have made anyway. How many lovely DCs do you have?

I am so pleased I found this thread, I need the permanent encouragement and support and have totally found it here! Thanks all x

DingDongMerrilyOutOfSeason · 14/05/2011 23:27

PS regarding alcohol, I do find it makes me less watchful about noticing hunger so have cut right back, hard but worth it!

blimey · 15/05/2011 00:04

re alcohol - for me if I overdid it (half bottle of wine) I am rubbish the next day at telling if I am hungry or not but I also have munchies

SilveryMoon · 15/05/2011 07:43

Morning all.
I am so hung-over Sad
I got really really drunk last night.
I have a driving lesson at 3 o'clock.

HowToLookGoodGlaikit · 15/05/2011 08:02

Obiwan - do you have the 90 day journal? Paul actually tells you to throw out all teh food that does not inspire you or are not 100% tasty, and then t fill your cupboard/fridge with lovely tasty food. You seem to have done the opposite? Are you struggling with the "eat what you want" principle?

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shrinkingnora · 15/05/2011 08:03

Bad combo! Can you go back to sleep at all? Failing that, a fry up - carbs, protein, vit c and caffiene!

SilveryMoon · 15/05/2011 08:18

nora am drinking lots of ribena right now. Sure I'll be ok by 3pm..........

ladywhiteadder · 15/05/2011 08:40

Much sympathy to silvery. Was also very tickled by Positive's nudey jogging. Fantastic news for everyone with losses, well done!

My relentless and annoying positivity deserted me yesterday. Not sure what went wrong. I started well but by 3pm was enduring a children's party and without knowing it had eaten 4, yes 4, jam tarts when I wasn't hungry. Compounded that by having takeaway pizza for tea but at least I ate slowly, enjoyed it and stopped when I was full so that's something I guess.

Am trying to take the view that today is a new day and to just dust myself off and start again. Feel stupid though. Must fit in a run and listening to the CD today.

shrinkingnora · 15/05/2011 08:55

Don't feel stupid. I expect you were just trying to change the way you felt - children's parties have that effect on me, tooGrin If you managed to eat your pizza slowly and stopped when you were full then that is no problem at all. You are allowed to do that!!! So you ate 4 jam tarts? Minor. You are aware of what went wrong and you can now forgive yourself and move on.

Don't do what I do - I have transgressed, therefore I must do xyz to punish myself. Just take each hour at a time, or even each minute!

SilveryMoon · 15/05/2011 08:59

lady we have all slipped up like that. Don't worry about it. How many years of over-eating are we all trying to change? It won't happen straight away.
Go easy on yourself and just carry on going by the rules

Niecie · 15/05/2011 09:06

Not having a good weekend, not having a good weekend at all. Blush

I'll be back later to whinge to remind myself what I am supposed to be doing.

BsshBossh · 15/05/2011 09:11

lady, I think you actually did rather well all things considered - I mean, it's a children's party and you're (we all are) still learning the ropes. Before Pauling, you would have stuffed yourself, wouldn't you? Today is indeed a new day and if you follow the four golden rules I bet you will feel less hungry today (in proportion to how much extra you ate yesterday)...