2011 Paul McKenna P3 - the march towards skinny jeans continues

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Well the old thread was getting mordibly obese wasn't it?

Welcome new people and people who've been here for a while, this is the definitive Paul McKenna support thread.

Whether you are dribbling over his Paulness or wibbling over pudding, we're here to listen, slightly mock you and tell you to step away from the scales.

The Paul Mckenna plan is not a diet but a way of teaching yourself to eat slowly and consciously and achieve the body you've always dreamed of.

There will be no diet foods on this thread, no starvation and no beating ourselves up because ^lifes' too bloody short to weigh a carrot and we'd far rather be doing something incredible instead!

I'll be here too. i use Facebook quite a lot, but it's strictly real life friends only. :)

great for keeping in touch with far away family and friends without having to remember to call/text/reply to emails.

I've never been Facebook poked so i must have polite friends!

DS finally asleep, off to see if i can listen to my cd!

BTW I ate a fair amount of popcorn but I was hungry, and I stopped myself from having the usual race with DS to see who could eat the most!

hello buggerlugs

I'm still Pauling - a few days went astray when I was on holidays but started following the rules again and am on track. Weight loss is not as quick as some of you but it's going in the right direction. I have a lot still to lose - 3 to 4 stone ideally.

I had a strange feeling today. I felt my face and could feel my cheekbone a bit better - it made me remember very strongly being thinner and how it felt and a part of my mind said 'oh no!'. I can't explain it. I really want to be thinner but it seems on some level I have been resisting it...

Can anyone relate?

Olive, I shall be here too! I don't want you all knowing what I look like

Had an absolutely excellent Pauling day today.

Things I did that really worked:

The breakfast thing I described earlier.
Anticipated that I would need something at 11ish so took an apple and a bottle of water with me when walking in the woods. Nothing tastes better than an apple eaten in these circumstances.
Ate my lunch while feeding the baby - three spoons for him, one mouthful of pizza for me. Turned down pudding. Ended up eating less than my four year old again.
Allowed myself to revisit lunch without guilt about an hour after. Still turned down pudding though.
Substitued the bits of our family meal I didn't fancy for things I really wanted. Sausage beans and chips became Innocent veg pot, Vegetable grill and half a sausage. Couldn't eat it all. Not nearly.
Had plenty of fluid and ended the day with a hot chocolate as I really was wanting something sweet.

smug

And I started thinking about how many positive things come from Pauling. I was listing them in my head and I got to about twenty with no effort at all. Any lurkers thinking of trying it, go for it! Read back through these threads. No one ever says "I'm off (unless they are the beautifully slender WMMC)/this is horrible/this doesn't work".

AnyFuleKno - when that part of your mind says 'Oh no!' you have to say 'Oh yes!' even louder. I can definitely relate. My inner saboteur is an interfering bitch. Currently I am hovering just above the lowest weight I have been for 4 years. I am finding getting through this bit quite hard. But I keep looking forward to breaking new ground, and the not weighing is helping.

How long did it take for everyone to start seeing results? I've been Pauling for nearly 3 weeks now and I feel bigger if anything

Bella Thank you for your kind words. I really was a bit down earlier [silly me emoticon]

Bugger it - eaten a load of mini eggs. Mindlessly.

First major slip all week and I hate the feeling of having eaten too much, so will get back to Pauling tomorrow. Not beating myself up. Using it as a lesson.

Still annoyed though.

Right i'm back on the wagon! I've asked to jpin the FB group my initials are NO, i'm now off to catch up on all your posts!

Can I please make an impassioned plea. I understand why some of you want to move onto Facebook but I'm concerned that we could end up splitting and diluting the group. For various reasons - including work and personal - anonymity is really
for me. I even name change for this thread and use another name elsewhere on MN just in case I'm outed. I'm just concerned we might end up with two groups rather than having an amazing collective experience on one forum. This thread has become v important to me and I would hate to see loads of you leaving and posting elsewhere. Sorry if this sounds a little overdramatic.

Sorry posted before I'd finished. Like I say, I understand why the group was set up but please understand that if all the posting activity moves to FB some of us will not be able to join you.

I don't need anonymity, but I'll stick with you if you do Olive.

Still here, still Pauling! :)

I'm new to this but sticking here too Olive. Don't feel brave enough to talk about this on FB.

Can I just say how helpful it is having people to 'talk' to about this!

Right I'm back again. Gosh I was very fat at the seminar, I just saw the photo on FB and I was lardarama.

You don't realise how much you've lost till a photo from before smacks you in the face.

I don't think that'll happen on FB Juicyolive. I think perhaps some people need to reach out for individual support and perhaps that's easier on FB. Both can co-exist quite happily anyway and as long as enough of us stay on both, both can work.

Also don't you think people are going to notice anyway the fact that you've lost tons of weight and are feeling fanbloodytastic?

Anyway, I feel like a bit of a fraud now being on here, I don't have a weight problem anymore. Or an eating problem. I feel properly cured and it's just alien to me to be anything other than a thin person with a healthy attitude to food.

But I guess I spent 37 years having problems with food and only a few months when I haven't so I'm in rehab for a while yet!

Help needed from anyone who has the 5CD pack.

I downloaded the secrets of naturally slim people, hoping for a change to my normal listening, but all I seem to have is Paul talking in normal voice, i.e. not dalek style about it, then it seems to be the same NLP CD that is with the book. Is this true? Is there really only one thing to listen to or have I got it wrong?

The hypnosis on the secrets of naturally thin people is the same as the on that comes with the book. The other four CDs are different.

Thanks shrinkingnora. Drat, I wasn't as bothered about the exercise or the craving busters, oh well at least I only paid £10.50 for it on Ebay.

Rookie - just quickly as have to make breakfast - but there are 2 tracks on each of the 5 CDs. The first one is him talking (I think just from the book, but have never actually listened) the second is the hypnosis.

And the first CD is just the same as the one which comes with the books, but as Nora says, the other 4 are different. (Train Your Mind To Slim, Emotional Eating, Craving Buster, Exercise). I quite like the variety - and I have found the Emotional Eating one v useful too.

Emotional eating is very good and I do like the motivation power one. Obviously by that I mean the emotional eating CD is good - if emotional eating were good I wouldn't be in this mess

ahh nice to know who you all are now! :) Im JC on the FB page!

Im going for a picnic today, with 3 friends who are also Pauling. Im just about to make the lunches, and I am serioulsy craving a salad with seeds on it! Looks like my natural cravings are kicking in - I am so over bread/crisps/chocolate now they are not naughty food!

Hope everyone else has a great day - drink some sunshine! :)

Of the 5cd set, my favourite is the Mind Programming CD, i prefer the trance on that one and find it works best for me.

Olive - and yes, I'm staying here too. Talking about this kind of things in a way that my friends can see is definitely not me!

I'm staying here too as I also keep FB for friends and family only and MN for anonymity.

CelestialstarlightsPassion, you say you feel bigger. Can you list out the exact ways in which you are struggling with Pauling? It may help us help you address them... When I am struggling, I try and tackle just one or two of the principles at a time. Are you just listening to the CD hoping the hypnosis only will work or are you truly working through each of the four principles each and every day?

BsshBossh I've been struggling with my weight for about 3 years now. Always was quite slim prior to D3 being born. I've always tried to eat quite healthily but could never keep away from the chocolate, crisps and wine. I've always loved my food and so usually ate large platefuls. so I got to the point where my wight and figure was getting out of control and tried to cut down on the crap but it my willpower is shocking and the weight continued to pile on. So last month I decided to try low carb and tried living off salads and chicken etc. I cut out wine and so far that continues. so when I started the PM tecnique I think I was starting to slim (due to a diet of salad and no wine really).

I came across this thread and read the previous thread. Inspired I dug out the "I can make you thin" CD which I had bought a few years back when I first started to put on weight. I've also searched for my book but I can't find it anywhere. I started listening to the CD and instantly felt much better about myself (the best I'd felt in years in fact). I then bought the 5CD collection but then into the second week I started to struggle and everything seemed such an effort. I keep going though and make sure I listen to a CD everyday. I followed the link to the tapping but can't seem to get to grips with that and when I crave i don't naturally recall feeling good or feeling loved or have the feelings of joy like the CDs say I should. I think "am I hungry"? The answer is usually "no" but the craving is so strong that I ignore it and have the chocolate anyway.

I always have the four main principles in mind though. I only eat when hungry (except for the cravings). I eat slowly and mindfully (chew at least 20x) I eat only what I want and try to stop when full (I think I'm just getting the hang of the full signals now but still need to work on this). Apart from eating way too much chocolate I think I'm doing really well. What I can't understand is why I'm not losing any weight or seeing any results. I eat much smaller portions now (I use a side plate for my dinner now) so eat way less than I ever did. Drastically reduced my alcohol intake. I used to have 2 or 3 glasses of wine every night. Since last week I've had 3 glasses of wine in total and they were topped up with lemonade. I ate crisps every night but have only had crisps once since last week. We also got a new dog 2 weeks ago and I've been out walking with her twice daily. So burning more calories too. I don't have scales to weigh myself but none of my clothes fit me now. My belly and boobs are huge and out of proportion to the rest of me as i'm only 5ft 2. I was doing well with the self esteem part of the hypnosis too, doing the mirror exercises. Then DH took a photograph of me in the park with DC and our new dog and I cried at how terrible I looked. So all the positive affirmations went out the window and I'm back at square one again.

So that's the background really. Any advice will be truly appreciated. I really need this to work

Phew - you're all still here. Panic over.

"Talking about this kind of things in a way that my friends can see is definitely not me!" That's my concern - I don't want student friends I haven't seen for 10 years or my ILs reading my innermost struggles with food!

Celestial - haven't got time to to answer all your points, but it may be useful to stay away from the camera. I'm sure you look lovely btw, but some recent family photos nearly put me off Pauling recently until nora smoothed things over for me. If you work on the positive affirmations and the mirror exercises that might well help.

It sounds like you are doing very well, and doing all the right things. Maybe you need to think about some aversion techniques for the choc, but apart from that it all sounds very good. Just forget the photo and stay positive if you can!.