2011 Paul McKenna part two - our final diet

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Welcome etc. blah blah. :)

Did any of you go off during the trances? I was amazed by that...virtually rendered unconscious by PMK

Appleblossom, my dh is in charge of iTunes too. Hope you enjoy your listening!

Amplebosom, I'm so sorry ISomehow cocked up your name. My brain edited you!

Olive, I wish I'd stayed to the end now, but I had a strong urge to RUN!!

Solo, glad you're staying! I'm a Londoner but I'm happy to travel to a gathering if it makes it fairer. We'd have a bit more notice this time so should be able to get the cheap fares.

Wherever we meet, let's not go for the Apollo eh?

solo - i sort of thought I was alert during the second trance but in fact I found myself "waking up" at the end as he counted backwards from 10 so something must have happened.

Someone mentioned that on one of the CDs you don't have to wake up at the end - would be useful to listen to as going to sleep. Can anyone tell me which one?

Anyway off to bed now - night all!

My mum was totally out of it during the last one.

Yes to meet up from me.

JuicyOlive - umm not physically possible as a cause. But good thought. :)

Yes from me, too! I like my new friends

I have been listening to the overcoming emotional eating CD and I like it better than the one that comes with the book (but I know that one off by heart). It feels different. Although the stories in it are bonkers.

Still feeling really good here. I wake up in a really good frame of mind. I am sneaking in another listen to the CD at about 6am if DS2 wakes for his milk then. Get up, lob bottle at baby then back to bed with Paul

It has changed the way I view my DC's eating too. I am definitely happy for lunch to be at 11am if that's when they are hungry. I hope that I can raise my DD with a good attitude to food and eating. I worry that some damage may already have been done by the media, her friends, me, MIL (who says, "grandma's fat isn't she darling" all the time to which DD must say, "No you're not, grandma, you're lovely". Grandma IS fat btw. But I will have a word with her if she starts doing it again. DD said her legs were fat the other day. She is beautiful

Yes, my inlaws are always slagging off fat people in front of dd. Like rebecca on xfactor last year - hardly fat!!! I'm going to be more assertive in confronting them about it I think.

Hurrah - my period has arrived, but it's so light I didn't notice and no pain whatsoever. I'm 37 and have periods for 28 years now and this the first time ever it's been without pain.

Congrats wmmc thats brilliant!!

I had a fab day yesterday, ate when i was hungry, im getting good at that bit, stopping when im full is more of a challenge, im noticing late, but that can only get better right?

whent out to see DHs band play a charity gig last night and rocked out like a teenager!! had a brilliant time and although when i looked in the mirror i wanted to change what i looked like, i did the mirror exercise and went out and had a brilliant time and just enjoyed myself. considering on thursday i didnt want to go at all as i didnt want to go out looking like i do, thats pretty big for me

onwards and upwards, off to eat some breakfast as im getting hungry!

Just leaving to meet my parents for lunch. They are very much of the school of thought that you should stuff your face until you explode like that bloke in the Monty Python film. We're meeting in an pub which is bound to serve big portions( the sort of place they love). Questions will be asked if when I leave food on my plate! Will report back later!

Didn't meet anyone because there were two glitterball things and I didn't know which was right and was too shy to ask....but ended up chatting to a random nice woman anyway, so it was all good.

I found it helpful that he explained more about conscious eating. Till now I have always eated either in front of the computer or television or newspaper/book. I don't quite know what to do with myself if I have to think about the food. But now is the time to instill better habits in DD, so I'm really going to try.

Hope it went well, Olive. I would have suggested feigning illness or doing as Paul said - say "I'm sorry but Paul has stopped me eating, it's his fault".

That sounds fab KT - so nice to be able to enjoy stuff and go to places. And you rocked out like a teenager because you secretly are a teenager - you look all youthful and healthy and your skin is amazing.

My current worry is what will happen when I do overeat. Because I can't believe I have changed the habit of 27 years in one day. And I am scared it will happen and it will be game over.

I am very happy for everyone's children getting this great example of how to listen to your body though!

Yes for me for a meet up in a few months too.

Lunch was interesting nora. Watching my parents eat gave me some insights into how my brain has been systematically programmed over the years. DF wolfed down his very large lunch before I'd hardly started mine! DS got a fish bone stuck in this throat (managed to wash it down with some food and drink) but because he was suspicious of his fish, I cut it up and suggested he chewed it 20 times to check for bones (he likes counting). DF got frustrated with him for eating slowly and told him to hurry up. And when DS gave up eating, he pinched his remaining fish off his plate and ate it. I had to bite my tongue.

By the way has anyone seen this thread. Makes for interesting reading.

nickname - on the whole we were pretty crap at the meeting up thing weren't we?

Is anyone else doing their journal? I'm not a journal sort of person but I thought yesterday, what the heck, in for a penny and all that.

I'm up for a meet, i'm in the North but happy to travel. I did my CD last night and for the first time in a long while i actually went to sleep, i'm a bit of an insomniac normally. Was a bit weird with the whole talking in diferrent ears thing!

When Paul did the end trance on Saturday i went all weird and felt like i was on a rollercoaster. I felt sick and hot and generally really ill. I think it was because i felt out of control and was panicking.

lililolo don't worry i get AppleBosom alot

Sounds like you are all doing well, i keep getting urges to just stuff my face but luckily up to now i manage to talk myself out of the negative thoughts.

woke up this morning still wearing my headphones!?

Have a care. I seem to have damaged my left ear doing similar!

I am having a problem afternoon. I can definitely tell why but there is no capacity to do anything about it at the moment. I am typing this whilst feeding DS2 and settling the constant griping between DD and DS1. I really want to go and do the CD or an exercise but can't. Help!

I think I knew from the moment that I typed my message of 16:11. Or I had decided. Or something. But, I don't feel like all is lost, which is nice. I do feel excessively full though which is really unpleasant. Nothing I can do about it now. Just have to wait until I finish digesting.

I also noticed earlier that I feel guilty whenever I have eaten until I feel full. I definitely associate feeling full with guilt and I have to think back and realise that actually I ate a child's portion for lunch and a tiny breakfast. But still felt full all day. This really needs dealing with as unless I concentrate on what I have actually eaten I think I might as well eat shit loads/loads of shit as I have already fucked up.

Sorry to ramble on but it is very helpful to get my thoughts out!

And yes Olive, I read that thread too....

nora - how are you feeling on the scale - it's OK if you're feeling full up to a 7. Or are you saying that you've been eating even though you feel full?

And don't forget, you're just having a bad day not fucked up completely.

I'm on the other track - keep thinking I'm hungry but don't think I should be as I had ham, egg and chips for lunch. And I'm trying to tune into whether it's real or emotional hunger. Should try some water instead.

I don't have emotional hunger anymore. I just get the emotions - frankly the emotional hunger was a lot easier to deal with

But a good day over here (they all seem to be these days). Kids have been little sods, but I don't care really, they are kids and that's their job description during half term.

Been to see a cat at the new cat rescue centre. Have to go revisit it tomorrow and then Saturday pick it up. It's an exceptionally yowly bengal. Apparently it's been put up for adoption three times by owners who can't cope with it's attention seeking. Ha! They should meet my children!

Attention seeking cat? It would feel at home on AIBU!

I am eating when I know perfectly well I am not hungry. What I am is extremely tired. And that means I am just eating for somehting to do. What I actually ate was 5 ritz crackers, a really small piece of cheese, about 10 rich tea fingers and a bowl of bran flakes. Which is nothing compared to the old days. I am very full now though and it is making me feel bloated and uncomfortable.

Maybe the cat will seek attention from your Dc? taste of their own medicine

Which CD is the trancy one?

nora - can you see it as a positive? It's a rare occasion for you now and you don't like the feeling of being stuffed any more.

bloomingnora - you are acknowledging that what you feel is tired so that's good. And with the greatest of respect, I'm not flipping surprised you are tired if you are living on biscuits/crackers and cereal with a tiny heal of cheese. Is it possible you are anaemic or there is some other reason you are so tired?

Are you really eating what you really want or are you eating what's there and just making do? Can you go out to the supermarket and wander around and see what you really really fancy. I bet your body will tell you what it wants really well. Mine seems to be steering me towards Innocent veg pots (although too big to eat in one sitting) and grapes at the minute. (Perhaps I am full of poo ).

I'm hoping yes the cats and kids will get to competitively attention seek with each other. DD already thinks the cat is lovely because it took a fuss off her immediately and DS is quite taken too (though a bit more reticent as he was savaged recently by our last cat :( )