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A space to talk openly about weight loss journeys and challenges. Mumsnet hasn't checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. You may wish to speak to a medical professional before starting any diet.

So what am I doing wrong?

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pinkbasket · 18/09/2010 15:25

In the last 2-3 years I have put on 2-3 stone almost without realising it. I have been exercising on and off for about 4 months and trying to eat better. I haven't lost a thing. My weight is up and down and I am just so fed with it all.

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Tortington · 23/09/2010 12:53

i dont know the science - other than what i have gleened of t'internet, and what i have gleened in on my mn blog. but i does work if you do it properly - as does any eating plan. i can't see how you could be in ketosis and eat a lot of caloires anyway tbh

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Tortington · 23/09/2010 13:02

chandon, i can assure you i eat lots and don't starve at all.

also, my diet is 100% healthier than it was. lots of chicken and tuna and lean mince. my fridge is stuffed with fresh peppers, leeks, cougettes, cauliflower and various yummy cheeses. i order low carb fajitas, sugar free lollipops and eat sugar free jelly for a treat.

i think its easier to think of this as a low sugar diet.

i have already advised pinkbasket that she should take vitamin suppliments.

i have also advised that this has to be a life change, any weightloss plan be it ww, lighterlife, gi, southbeach - whatever, is only effective if it means a change in lifestyle, not a short term fix.

i have also stated that i don't think this is for everyone, we all need out own way of doing this, i have tried other things and they didn't work for me, but this did - we are all different and need different stimuli and different rules.

as stated below, the equation is simple isn't it? eat less, exercise more. why doesn't everyone do it - just eat less fatty, stop putting it in your mouth you greedy git! get off yer arse you lazy pig...yes yes we all know the equation, but we can't all follow it like that. what is simple for you or even for me with this plan, is not so simple for others. its just one of many methods, i understand if its not for everyone

Tortington · 23/09/2010 13:03

well, i beg to differ as i have a different personal experience than you. i count carbs not calories. and it worked for me.

Tortington · 23/09/2010 13:10

first timer, you would have to be very dedicated to not eat any carbs in a day. i eat 20 ish carbs a day, most things have carbs in - you would have to eat caveman styleee to just each meat on its own - which can't be sustainable long term becuase meat on its own with no tomatoes, or leeks, courgettes, cauli, salad etc would be pants.

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Tortington · 23/09/2010 13:16

oh yes indeed most things have a carb count, even the sweetners in my coffee. perhaps firsttimer should see the keto calculator.

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BudaisintheZONE · 23/09/2010 13:52

No/low carb diets have had such a bad press. Mainly with people just using them as an excuse to pig out on bacon, eggs, steak etc etc.

For some of us low carb works. For some of us it makes us eat healthier. I am firmly of the belief that we are all different. Low fat might work for some. 3 meals a day and being disciplined the rest of time for others. Slimming world for others. But low carb works for lots of us.

The only issue I would have with how pinkbasket is going about it is that she appears to be doing it without actually reading up on it other than Custy's blog. And much as I am sure that Custy's blog and advice is great I think she really needs to read a specific low carb book and stick to that one plan.

I did Atkins a few years ago. Lost weight. I ate much healthier than I had been eating. I would have eggs for breakfast or smoked salmon and cream cheese or an omlette. Lunch would be protein and salad. Dinner would be protein and more veg. Snacks were protein. Sliced ham or turkey or cheese. What ever was in the fridge. I often made up a tuna salad with lots of peppers, red onion and cucumber chopped up.

On the other hand before Atkins my breakfast might be white bread toasted with lots of butter. Lunch would be a cheese sandwich. Dinner would be heavy on carbs too and light on veg. I rarely ate fruit. Lots of crisps and biscuits and chocolate though.

When I did Atkins I didn't limit my veg intake. I still lost weight. I didn't bother with the whole ketosis thing. I knew by the taste in my mouth that I was probably in ketosis and by the fact that I was losing weight.

People forget that with Atkins the first 2 weeks are toughest. That is when you are supposed to limit carbs to 20g a day. Most people want to lose weight quickly and stay at this but you don't have to. You can increase your carbs a little. Say 25 g a day. If you are still losing you can increase a little more. 30g a day. Still losing? Great. Caryy on. Stopped losing? Drop back a bit. Find the pace of loss that you are happy with and keep going till you get to your goal. Then you start increasing your carbs again to find your set point. This is the level of carbs a day at which you MAINTAIN. You don't gain and you don't lose. And the carbs you re-introduce should be GOOD carbs. Wholegrains. Fruit. More veg. Brown rice and pasta. All the healthy stuff that we all know we should be eating. Not carbs that are highly processed and full of sugar.

Pinkbasket - A few tips if that's ok?

The basic premise of Atkins is that protein fills you up. As does fat. Fat being cream, butter etc. They also make food taste good. Avoid anything 'diet' or low calorie or low fat. The fat will have been replaced with sugar. So you can have a Ceasar Salad with chicken or prawns. No croutons. Have egg mayonaise with full fat mayonaise. Read labels - avoid things with sugar. Custy is right - this is a no sugar plan.

With regard to drinks - I always had tea in the morning as I can't survive without it. I also had milk with it but just a dash. Coffee is great as you can have it with cream. If you must use sweetener use Splenda. Drink loads of water. I used to struggle with this but found I liked it with lots of ice cubes. Also water from a Brita Filter is nicer than plain tap water. You can have diet drinks but not too many.

Take a good vitamin supplement. If you get constipated take magnesium.

Good luck.

Tortington · 23/09/2010 14:47

great post buda, she is right pinkbasket - you must do your research

pinkbasket · 23/09/2010 15:55

Yes, you are right I have been just going on what Custardo has told me but this was because I couldn't find a low carb book in Smiths to help but I know nothing really. People talk about food groups and it all just confuses me. I do need to research more and will do at the weekend when I have more time. I am happy with how things are as my mind has been fixed, I no longer feel the need to feed my emotional state with food like I have done before.

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pinkbasket · 23/09/2010 15:56

Buda thank you very much for your tips. I will reread properly when we are back as I am about to take DD to her lesson.

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BudaisintheZONE · 23/09/2010 16:15

Thanks Custy! Grin I get a bit preacherish when people knock low-carb!

pinkbasket - some books below:

This

Or

www.amazon.co.uk/New-High-Protein-Diet-Permanently/dp/0091917336/ref=sr_1_9?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1285254834&sr=1-9 - DH and I really like this one and the recipe book that they did. Very tasty recipes.

thatsnotmyfruitshoot · 23/09/2010 16:45

pinkbasket, I posted on your original health thread as my symptoms sounded really similar to yours.

A week on, I can say that cutting out wheat has made me drop 4lbs in one week, lose the bloated feeling and feel so much better. Maybe you could try that as a less extreme version of the Atkins - you can still eat oats, potatoes, rice etc but no bread, pizza or pastry (in broad terms). Lots of foods and sauces have a hidden wheat content so be careful, but I imagine it's a lot easier than cutting all carbs, and I'm not having any negative side effects at all.

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Tortington · 23/09/2010 17:38

its not necessarily igh in fat, and it clearly does work as a multimillion pound industy has arisen from it

pinkbasket · 23/09/2010 17:44

thatsnotmyfruitshoot - I definitely think I have a problem with bread and have stopped eating that, I used to have porridge for breakfast but that started having a similar effect. Really stupid question coming, is wheat listed as wheat on ingredients lists? I know that sugar is anything with ose on the end like sucrose so was wondering about the wheat aspect.

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BudaisintheZONE · 23/09/2010 17:46

Riven it may well be very different for kids like your DD. I don't understand enough about it all. I just know that it works. And it isn't really that you eat as much fat and protein as you want. You eat enough to fill you. Enough that you are not hungry again in 5 mins. The fat and protein are more filling long term. I know when I did WW I would have a snack of ricecakes and lowfat cheese spread or something similar and be still starving. On Atkins if I am hungry between meals (which I usually wouldn't be) I would have a piece of cheese or a couple of slices of ham or turkey. Much more satisfying.

pinkbasket · 23/09/2010 17:48

Books noted for when I go shopping. Thank you.

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sarah293 · 23/09/2010 18:12

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BudaisintheZONE · 23/09/2010 18:56

Sorry Riven! I know she is human! Grin Just wondered if there was a medical reason to do with meds she is on.

It would be tricky for you to do it if you don't eat meat. Low GI and no processed food is good. Basically what I am doing at the moment. Although I am not having rice and potatoes. I really think processed food has an awful lot to answer for. Just cutting out processed food can improve your diet so much. When you think about it eating a natural yoghurt and a few strawberries must be so much more satisfying and better for you than eating a pot of low-fat, low cal, chemicals.

sarah293 · 23/09/2010 19:19

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BudaisintheZONE · 23/09/2010 20:49

Oh yes - ido the bored eating , sad eating, angry eating, happy eating and just because eating !!

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