Help - I’m stuck in a rut and can’t seem to claw my way out.

[yacking]

I’ve lost 4 stone on MJ and I feel so much better. I’ve still got another 1.5 or maybe 2 stone to go but I just can’t seem to break out of the bad habit of eating rubbish in the couple of days as the jab is wearing off. The consequence is that I’ll lose 2lbs and then regain it and I’m just ‘revving in neutral’. I’m on 7.5mg and I did try going up to 10mg but it made me feel too sick.

This is 100% a battle of the mind now and each week after a little loss, I promise myself I’ll keep on pushing through down to the next stone but then I always end up pouring a glass of wine or succumbing to a takeaway. It’s all completely self inflicted and I’m really desperate to get down to my goal weight but keep sabotaging myself.

Has anyone been in the same boat? What did you do to break out of it?

I would inject 8.5 or thereabouts by counting clicks if the 10 was too much of an increase.

Give yourself a reset. Remember MJ is still working in the background even if your appetite and snacking feels out of control, I guarantee you are eating less/better than you were pre MJ.

I reset by redoing my meal plan especially when they get stale and boring, re look at my macros, do some regular weigh ins to keep my focus, pull my finger out on exercise. Make it feel different. Hopefully that will get you back on track.

you might consider taking 8-8.5mg if 10mg felt too much. I take approx 4-5mg depending on the week using a syringe.

Have a look at Geneen Roth’s book “Breaking Free From Emotional Eating”
She talks about how when we overeat we can be “future thinkers” - we imagine all the wonderful things we will do and be once we’ve sorted out weight out.
Except perhaps we won’t be. Perhaps we’ll just be us but thinner.
You might be subconsciously a bit scared of getting to the end state.
I’ve got about 10lbs to go on Wegovy tablets and I’ve said I will try for 3 more months only. If my head won’t let me get there then it is what it is.

Or, try building a few more treats into your diet. Perhaps your diet is so strict you are rebelling against it. You might not need to feel like you’re falling off the whole diet if you have a jaffa cake at 4pm or something (jaffa cakes are such a big treat for me now. I used to inhale the whole box without even noticing 😂)

Can you change injection days so the medication is supporting you when you most need it , for example weekend takeaway. And have the last couple of days before injecting as boring mid week days where routine is easier to stick too.

Inject a day earlier if you stay on same dose

I inject 4.5mg every 6 days as that works well for me. I’ve been on MJ for over a year now and lost 5 stones.

However, what are you willing to permanently change regarding your diet and lifestyle? I think this is the key to the long term success for staying healthy and keeping the weight off.

You need to change your mindset around food or you will just put it back on afterwards and sooner than you think. Have a complete break from the takeaways for a while, it’s just a habit that you can easily break. Make sure you have food in that you enjoy but will probably be half the calories of a takeaway. It doesn’t have to be salads and veg all the time.

You might be subconsciously a bit scared of getting to the end state. @StickyProblem

You might have actually hit on something there! I’ve had a lot of attention over the weight loss - people saying nice things - but I actually find it a bit awkward. It’s settled down now as I’ve been the same weight for about 4 months. I now mostly look ‘normal but with a bit of weight to lose’ and while I really want to be back in my lovely size 10-12s, that’s part of me doesn’t want the comments to start all over again - even though I really need to do this for my health.

Also, I’m psychologically not 100% sure who I am if I’m not a bit fat!

Quick question about splitting a dose - wonder if anyone can help? I have a 7.5mg pen with 3 doses left but I’d like to try 8.5 or 9mg (10mg was previously too much for me). Do I inject the 7.5mg as usual and then do about 10 clicks into the next dose and use that? If that works better for me then I’ll order a 10mg pen next time and click to 9mg.

Just trying to work out how to actually do it.

@yackingtry injecting every 5 days. Before people jump on me, I’m aware that this is off licence

Yes, every 5 days is what I do. I’ve never had any problems with that approach and I’ve been doing it for about 6 months. Of course that doesn’t mean it’s right for you but it’s something you can try if you feel comfortable.

I think that’s the way to go about it as you can’t get a bigger dose in one go than the pen is designed to give. So you’d do a normal 7.5 dose and then click to give a 1 or 1.5 dose.

There is a click calculator on the monj.co.uk site if you want to be accurate.

Do you give yourself a full dose and then ‘top up’ a bit with a 1mg or something? Or are you saying to just inject every 5 days instead of every 7? Thanks!

@yackingyour current full dose in its entirety every5 days

Thanks for your help everyone. I’ve just taken 7.5mg and then did another 10 click jab which should be just under 9mg. 10mg made me feel too nauseous so hoping 9mg might be a better fit.

I’ve only got around 2 stone to go (maybe less) having lost 4 stone - I really want to get the last lot off!

Urgh, well I woke up with the horrible nausea again. I made sure that yesterday, I hydrated really well and avoided anything which might be too creamy or fatty - it was a very bland day of food - but nope, seems like the 9mg was too much for me. I’m now about to gulp down some Pepto!

I think 7.5mg is the ‘safe zone’ for me so I’m just going to have to power through on that dose. Anything higher just leaves me feeling pukey and miserable.

If you’re ok during the beginning of the week but struggling to eat sensibly on days 6 and 7, then it makes sense to try injecting earlier so on day 5 or 6.

I keep track by putting JAB day in my phone diary and set it recur every 6 days so I don’t forget what day to jab. I’ve been jabbing every 6 days since April and it’s saved me moving up to a higher dose pen.

Yes, I think I’m going to try that. It’s definitely the last two days before jabbing, I feel hungry and get stuck on a food loop (thinking about it a lot). Thanks for the advice.