Mounjaro -10 stone or more to lose - Thread 12

[TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne]

Thread 12!

Ugh. I've just had my very first caramel latte.

It'll be my last, too - it was absolutely revolting.

A 1lb gain for me this week, which I was a bit miffed about, I did expect to stay the same tbh though as I've had a bad week diet-wise 🙈 I've stayed within calories but what I have eaten has been pizza, cake and a KFC 😆 so I'm hoping the salt and carbs have made me retain a load of water. Realised I've only lost a total of 5lbs in Feb, didn't think it would slow this soon so I need to get stricter again like I was in the beginning.
Tell you what though, in the past a gain would probably have made me spiral and chuck it in, but this time I'm much more ready to dust myself off and get back on it next week. I have a girls trip away in two weeks so I want to get back on track before that.

Have a fab weekend all!
Yes I'm freezing too @TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne , actually shivering!

Also freezing. Heated blanket and lap-cat are helping!

I'm impressed with your size 12 BTW!
Great achievement.

Well my sudden overnight 3lb loss earlier in the week has stayed off, last Saturday weighed 14st 7lb this week 14st 3lb it usually takes me a month to lose that at 1lb a week, so I’ll have to remember not to be disappointed if I stay the same next week. Week 45 total lost 54lb.
I packed up a lot of too big clothes from my wardrobe this week but can’t get rid, they are going in the attic as I still don’t believe I won’t be needing them again.

Weigh in day here too and my weight has been hovering within a few pounds again this week. My stupid scale told me this morning that I’m gaining weight!!

It’s not a sprint, it’s a marathon I keep repeating and luckily the monthly average is going down. But this shows that weight loss is not linear, it’s the bigger picture that counts.

Good god 1200 would take me to an over 1100 deficit and I'd be starving! Just checked and my breakfast (fruit and yogurt- 46g of protein) alone is 48g of carbs, I'd have to forgo veg for the rest of the day which feels counterintuitive and I bloody love potato's and rice!

I eat in a way that I know I can sustain indefinitely which I believe has to be the way to maintain the loss when at goal.

Weightloss in women isn't linear, I know that and my weigh in every week is just a snapshot of how much water I'm hanging on to at that particular point.

Consistency is what has lost me 114lb so far, logic tells me I need to keep on doing what I'm doing and trust the process.

I appreciate the suggestions though.

Don't want to sound smug but I've just been out with the dog with no coat and sunglasses on 😎 It's a beautiful sunny day in the West Country- hurrah for ☀️

Very jealous, freezing and wet here in my part of Scotland. Went to St Andrew’s for a day trip today though and it was lovely and sunny, albeit freezing. Just got in and straight under the electric blanket!

Same here on the Yorkshire coast. Its not sunbathing weather, but really quite warm, and I've been on the beach with just a hoodie and my new size 16 gilet. Just in case you missed that, I said size 16, whoop whoop 🤭

Sunny but cold in Surrey, I'm thinking about putting the heating on!

Absolutely feckin freezing here in Sweden, and very foggy too. It's really bloody miserable.

Told ya! Well done lovely

Thank you all for the warm welcome. Jab 3 yesterday, 4.9kg (10.8lb) down in my first 2 weeks, although most of that was in the first week.

Yesterday I realised I should order my next pen. I was tempted to go up to 5. I decided to give it this weekend, to see how I feeling before making the decision. I'm really glad I waited, as suppression still seems good, so it would be best to stick to 2.5 for as long as possible. As @SnowWhiteisMyFavourite said, it's a marathon!

I tried to eat couscous with dinner yesterday, and found it tasted like plasticine. And again today when I tried giant couscous. I may be imagining it, but it feels like my taste buds don't like the processed wheat as I'm still enjoying rice.

I really resonated with what you wrote @RenegadeKeeblerElf, that my brain wants to indulge, but my body is just not interested. I've thrown a lot of food away this week, as I think I'm more hungry than I am. For example today I make scrambled eggs with 3 eggs, but then realised I only needed 1 or 2, so scraped the rest into the bin. I could count on one hand the amount of times I've not finished my plate in the previous year!

Well done @Castlebark that's a fab start! Over time I've definitely adjusted how much food I cook (2 eggs in an omelette rather than 3 for instance) but I have also found that I do need to push myself to eat a full portion as otherwise my calories will be too low (I'm only averaging 1200 as it is so need to make sure I don't go lower very often), or I'll wake up hungry in the middle of the night. There's definitely a balance to strike but it took me a while to find it.

I think we might have been hanging around in Afflecks at the same time @TragicMuse! I got so many great things from there, wish I'd kept them!

Well I weighed myself this morning and the scales showed 13.13. Ive not been in the 13's for over 15 years. I started at 20.7 so im over the moon! I've still got a bit to go but getting there. Healthy bmi is 10 stone exactly. Love reading everyones NSV's they keep me going!

Hi all, just catching up - crikey, you miss a day around these parts and that takes a while! It's so nice, I feel like we're all in the kitchen having a coffee and a chat! Well done on all the amazing NSVs, SVs, and losses. And kudos to those of us struggling, for at least sticking to it. @TragicMuse - size 12 is bloody fantastic! Glad you're feeling okay @TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne

@diggitydoo I am so impressed at how hard you are working on yourself. None of this is easy or simple. Nobody reaches the stage where they have 10 stone to lose without having some issues. It's really great that you're looking at the underlying things as well as the MJ.

@Iwouldratherbesinging - aw, I felt for you when you described crying on your meeting! Even if it's positive change it's still change, and that can be hard can't it? We're allowed to feel two things at once!

Been a crappy week at my end. I definitely think I've broken Mounjaro. I've tried varying when I take it, taking a bit more, all the suggestions you've had. But honestly, I still just keep eating. It's very interesting how differently we all react, and shit that I'm reacting like this! At the start there is NO WAY I could have eaten a Dominos or whatever. My appetite just wasn't there, and it was such a joy to be released from that bloody monster, to not be a slave to it all. Now I feel like I am again and it really sucks. I'm spending a fortune on food, I'm sneaking it when everyone is out, and it basically does not feel like I'm on MJ at all any more. If you'd told me this in spring last year I would not have believed you. But I am still bit by bit clawing some more weight off, so I'll keep on keeping on, take each day as it comes, and see where I am in a few months when my current pens are gone. Bugger, I do hate being me sometimes!

It definitely gets harder the longer we are on it .
I felt very much pushed to go up the doses each month by my old provider.now on 15 mg there's no where to go .
So I'm currently jabbing every 6 days and if I have a bad week I jab every 5 days .how that will work out in the long run with ordering each pen a bit earlier,I don't know .
But like you ,I'm focusing on a day at a time and try to get through the day without overeating ..
We've chatted before and you often sound similar to me
So ,out of interest how near to your goal are you ...
Feel free to ignore this next bit ....
It sounds like you /your brain is trying to sabotage your progress..I do similar ....
It's like deep down I don't think I'm worthy of happiness...so I eat my way back to being fat every time ..
Trying to punish myself for just existing..I believe overeating is a form of self harm ..and deep down I don't like myself,I push people away ,and I binge to punish myself.
It stems from having abusive parents,and then an abusive husband and not even knowing it was abuse at the time , because I was so conditioned that ,that kind of emotional abuse was normal...so I eat ..
I might be way of the mark for you ,with me saying all this .. apologies if I am ..
But I find knowing my triggers..self sabotage..can help me stay in control a bit more .
I'm currently loosing and gaining the same 4 pounds ... normally I'd of thrown the towel in by now and got fed up , thought the world was against me and binged .
But I'm not ,I'm aware that's my tendency,and I'm making new ways of doing things ..
Just for disclosure purposes,I am diagnosed autistic, waiting for ADHD asessment and currently having counselling.
Please ignore if I'm way of the mark xxx

@Springflowers2 I am a stranger and yet not through this thread and I just want to tell you that I think you are amazing. Truly.

Brave, insightful, reflective. Willing to look into yourself and do the hard work when we all know how easy it would be to revert to familiarity and comfort, and to shut out the critical soundtrack.

I know what the hard-wiring of abuse or neglect can do - I am an adoptive mum and my teen had a hard start - and to see and hear you putting your all into making yourself into something else, well, I know what that means and what it takes.

Also, fuck those people and every time they made you feel less than or not good enough.

You can shine and you deserve the body you want to carry you through life.

You are enough. You are more than enough.

@Fffreeeeezing I've 'only' lost 3lb in February as well. 2 x weeks of 1.5lb and 2 x weeks of staying the same.
My problem is when life intervenes eg dinner parties, socialising, weekends away, birthdays etc and I don't stick to my normal eating patterns.
I'm going to try to do one or two days this week where I just have OMAD. I'm going to be much more careful about eating outside of my normal 2 meals (ie a snack at lunch time) and try to claw it back.
3lb a month is still 36lb in a year though which is definitely progress albeit slow.

@TragicMuse what lovely words. This is why I love this thread so much. We may all be strangers from all corners, but we're also friends wanting the best for each other, and always there with support & encouragement.

I'm also an adoptive mum, dealing daily with the aftermath of early trauma. I get it x

Oh my!!! I am an adoptive mum too.
She is the youngest of my 5 and has not spoken to me for nearly 2 years now. She has shattered my heart in a million pieces and stamped all over it.
Adoption is not for the feint hearted!!

@Springflowers2 what an interesting and insightful post.
Yes, abuse is at the heart of a lot of our woes IMO.

I had a supremely happy childhood. I was a slim child, a slim teenager and a slim bride.

But my first husband terrorised me and abused me, for ten years.

I eventually escaped from him with my two children, but I was addicted to benzodiazepines by then.

I got off them, then got addicted to food. It was in the 1990s that I started to pile the weight on. I gradually went from a size 10 to a size 26.

I added in an addiction to online gambling for about six months but managed to beat that.

I carried on eating and eating. Went back to diazepam. Married my next husband and had two more children.

I thought we were happy but he left me (for a man) which was a terrible shock.

Then I met my third husband in 1999. He's the one who has just fucked off and left me. I stopped taking benzos about ten years ago.

Now I've stopped eating too much and I'm back down to a size 10. I'm actually a size 8 in most things now.

It's been a long road. I'll b be 70 next birthday. I'm still shocked that my husband left me in September, but I'm kind of okay.

We (on this thread) have all been damaged in one way or another, mainly by awful men.

But we've built a strong community on these threads and we support and help one another.

It's my son's fortieth birthday today. I must ring him up.

Wow everybody - I love you ALL! Undoubtedly abuse. neglect or other negative life experiences have contributed to many of us being where we are. And sometimes, when it is the only 'normal' you've ever known (especially in childhood) you don't even recognise it for abuse, or see the damage it causes until years later. So many people, often women, self harm through food - I totally agree that's what it is @Springflowers2. It gives us a temporary release and distraction, but ultimately makes us feel worse about ourselves. I most definitely am sabotaging myself. I have always done that, and I'm sure most of you have - if not food, then bad relationship choices, drinking, smoking, drugs, gambling, whatever the poison of choice. Food is just convenient and easy and legal.

When I started on MJ all of that disappeared. For the first time in decades I felt like the food noise had gone. I felt so optimistic about my future. But now I think a combination of physical and mental barriers are up - my body is very definitely used to the drug now, and not responding to it in the same way. My body is also, I think, now very reluctant to shift more weight without a battle - I am the lightest I've been for many years, but only by a few pounds. I never seem to get much below it. And mentally, yes, definitely self sabotaging - which is complex and rather dismaying. Do I really hate myself this much? I didn't think so, but occasionally it creeps in I guess. Also worth putting out there that I once read an interesting article about something called epigenetics. That's the way DNA can change or respond to environmental factors. One theory was that babies who are under-nourished in the womb, or children who were not fed properly or regularly when they were young (both of which apply to me, I shan't bore you with the sob story!) compensate with a change in the way their DNA reacts. Essentially being hungry when you were growing can make your body extra protective of its fat stores. This makes perfect sense to me. There was also mention of a study of children who had been conceived during a time of extreme shortage - I think the example was possibly Netherlands during the Second World War - and how babies from that era, once exposed to a time of plenty and modern western diets, became obese very easily, because their bodies were telling them to hoard food.

All very interesting, and one of the potential connectors, I think, to childhood abuse or neglect and adult obesity - that along with all the psychological factors too.

Anyway, we are who we are, and we're all doing our best, and you lot are BLOODY BRILLIANT. I feel both boosted and sad reading your stories, and again wish I could give you all a hug.