Page 31 | Mounjaropen Starters Nov ‘24 Thread 11 - The one where we have no chub rub and are wearing ALL the shorts as we head into June 🥳

Mounjaropen · 2025-05-23T13:45:04+00:00

Link to last thread here [[https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/weight-loss-injections/5319727-mounjaro-starters-nov-24-thread-10-the-one-where-we-are-very-nearly-beach-body-ready?page=40&reply=144487572 https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/weight-loss-injections/5319727-mounjaro-starters-nov-24-thread-10-the-one-where-we-are-very-nearly-beach-body-ready?page=40&reply=144487572]] Welcome to thread 11 to fellow MN weight loss friends old and new! Feel free to lurk or post, absolutely no judgement here, just support and encouragement as we throw away the tent dresses, have no chub rub and wear ALL the damn shorts as we head towards Summer Holiday Season. 🙌 Join us here to celebrate NSV’s, weight loss milestones and generally mutually admire our new svelte frames! I’m on W29 D5 and on my third 7.5mg pen F in my early 50’s H 5’ 5.5” SW 13st 11lb CW 10st 1.8lbs GW 9st 13.9 (maybe 9st 7lb if I can) Total loss so far 51.2 lbs We recommend the Shotsy app to monitor the amount of MJ in the system and pleasing graphs to look at…plus the MeThreeSixty body scan app to monitor inch loss for the weeks where weight loss is slow but you might have lost body fat etc. Both are free. Feel free to swap recipes that might inspire anyone in a food rut, tips for managing side effects, exercise tips, tips for maintenance, titrating up or down and we love a wellness/supplements/beauty/ style chat too 🥰

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Mounjaropen · 23/06/2025 11:16

PinkArt · 22/06/2025 16:23

Fat is a natural filler so it makes sense that some/ lots of us could look older with less fat faces. And if people lose too much weight, or lose too fast, that you could look a bit gaunt. But there is also the rediscovery of cheekbones and jawbones that have been in hibernation, neither of which is considered a bad thing in beauty terms!

I think I look older IRL but definitely better in photos. Funny really!

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Mounjaropen · 23/06/2025 11:17

MyRootinTootinBaby · 22/06/2025 16:27

I’ve actually just been looking at my fave in the mirror and while I’m happy with the losses, I think I prefer my pre-mj face. I’ve never had wrinkles or any movement on my forehead before, but now it creases when I raise my brows. Normal, I know, but I’ve never had it. I also think having a plumpness to my face makes me look more youthful beyond wrinkles. I don’t feel like I suit my new face shape yet. I’m waiting til I’m a bit closer to target, but I’m definitely going to get some Botox or fillers or something to plump my face up without plumping my stomach back up!

The main take on the ST article was not to get filler until you had stabilised your weight for at least 6 months.

I feel your pain though!

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Mounjaropen · 23/06/2025 11:19

MagnoliaTreePetals · 22/06/2025 16:49

I agree @LindtCurves , I am so happy now my face is slimmer. When I saw a photo of myself a few weeks ago, I thought Bloody Hell! I actually look younger! As that was a week after someone had said "don't lose any more, you will look gaunt" I was surprised, reassured and happy.
Maybe my wrinkles are more noticeable (mid 50's, their gonna be there somewhere), but as long as I don't put my glasses on when I look in the mirror, I won't see them! 😂
I've got the candlvwax/deflated balloon effect going on in a few places elsewhere, but I am more than happy that I feel and look younger.
I hope you feel back to your energetic self again soon.

@DarkForces yes, the joy of having cheekbones, jaw bone, even eye sockets, I can now find them all!

That's very interesting @jay55 , I hadn't thought of that. Something to remember when I (eventually) get to target and start titrating down the doses.
Has anyone else noticed that digestive effect when going down the doses or coming off it?

Everyone I know on MJ looks younger. I am hyper-critical of myself so I probably do too. Ignore the naysayers - it is jealousy....

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TeenLifeMum · 23/06/2025 11:21

Cantbesure · 23/06/2025 10:41

Lots of family weight issues and complexes here too. As a shorty it’s always been a struggle to get clothes that fit. Children’s clothes that fit my height didn’t fit my curves and I remember my mum making comments about me looking awful about 11-12 in a changing room.

I was thin but used to make myself sick after eating in my teens. Then I went to uni and met my ex and piled the weight on. I had no clue about portion control. Then I had two children and my weight yo-yoed for years. I lost weight pre lockdown but put it all and more again until MJ.

My children both ended up also putting weight on in their late teens. I think it’s when heavy activity stops and a more sedentary life style starts. And I’ve not been in charge of what they eat and the takeaways and own money have won out.

My DD was the first to go on MJ. I feel bad that I let her down to the point it was needed. But so proud of her for tackling it now and she looks simply amazing. My son is calorie counting and doing well.

I lived on cheese toasties at uni and piled on the weight. That was the first time I went over 10st.

my dc eat a fair bit of junk as well as healthy meals but all are stick thin - their dad’s genes I think.

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Mounjaropen · 23/06/2025 11:21

SerenePeer · 22/06/2025 19:21

That's so interesting @lindtcurves to be honest I'm a bit terrified about coming off. I've had quite a hungry week this week - not sure what's triggered it as I'm not due on (I don't think! I don't really have a cycle thanks to Mirena coil). But I didnt get my usual feeling cold last week, so I'm putting it down to maybe not doing my injection properly? I was using up a 7.5mg pen but dosing 10mg so it's very possible i miscounted my clicks

So anyway, not looking forward to coming off as I really enjoy the feeling of control and food neutrality I have with mj.

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It's definitely worth a conversation with a prescriber about a long term option?

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Mounjaropen · 23/06/2025 11:24

LindtCurves · 22/06/2025 19:46

I took a selfie today and went ‘oh hello hot stuff’ 🤣 Gotta be honest, I was worried about the face, because as they used to say, ‘you’ve got to choose, face or body’. Frankly I don’t think that’s true anymore with the skincare available today.

How do you feel about people saying ‘don’t lose any more’?

It annoys me to no end. I’m JUST below BMI 25 now and still have a flabby belly etc, I’m not skinny by any imagination. I’ve just realised that in my family there’s a cult of encouraging being overweight, everyone is slightly chubby and being fit and in shape is considered ‘extreme’. Only 2 cousins are not overweight and they’re quite distant from the family so I imagine they get similar ‘feedback’. Don’t get me wrong, we aren’t a clan of the morbidly obese, but nobody is very fit, probably hovering between sizes 14-18.

How often are people going to see you with much skin on show in the main candle wax areas though? I’ve got that going on as well though, and have embraced strength training/ growing muscle mass, which seems to have an effect.

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Oh I agree with all of this - if my Mother was still with us she would've been the first person to be critical...and to try and serve cake and crap every 5 mins so she had an excuse to eat it too. I bet that's what's going on - your success denies the family members permission to eat whatever they want guilt-free.

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Mounjaropen · 23/06/2025 11:26

KentishMama · 22/06/2025 19:58

"Don't lose any more" is super annoying. I've had the same from a few people, and all of it when I just entered healthy BMI territory. Also, it always came from very skinny people. I'm sure they are just trying to say that we look great now, but it's still such an annoying comment!

My flabby belly will remain well hidden, so doesn't bother me much. But I tried on some shorts today that were an unfortunate cut, so I could see the flabby melted candle inner thigh situation that I've suddenly got... I really need to start exercising regularly, although I am not hopeful that the thigh situation will improve a lot...

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Sadly it doesn't improve with either more loss or exercise IME - I'm going to try RF on my melted bits to see if it has an effect...fingers crossed!

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Mounjaropen · 23/06/2025 11:28

KentishMama · 22/06/2025 20:22

I honestly think people are just a bit rubbish at giving compliments a lot of the time. A mum at DS's school literally made a beeline for me at drop-off the other day, grabbed my arm and said, "Oh goodness, I barely recognised you! You look fantastic!"
It was meant as a compliment, but come on, I didn't look THAT terrible before MJ!

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'I didn't recognise you' is the worst back-handed compliment I think 😂I just want to say 'F*ck off, I do not look THAT different' but I just smile instead.

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Mounjaropen · 23/06/2025 11:29

MontyJinks · 22/06/2025 20:38

Feel like I've been well and truly in the spotlight all week 🙈 I've had a year 11 prom event and a college graduation ceremony, hence I've seen people that I haven't really seen for a year or two.

To be fair I do look totally different! I'm 4 stone down and now feel confident to make an effort with clothes, hair, make-up, jewellery - and I feel bloody fantastic!

BUT...... Oh my goodness! I've been stared at, been looked up and down, lots of second glances. A variety of comments:

you're shrinking
you look fabulous
you look different
I didn't recognise you
how are you doing it (with accompanying accusatory hard stare)
of course, everyone's on these skinny jabs, you're not are you
you look amazing

So, a mixed bag, lots of the not so nice comments came from people who are very vocal on social media about the expensive death jabs, so my response to everyone was - since turning 50 I've overhauled my life: my diet, my health, my exercise, my home, my finances, everything, and I feel much better for it....

Also added in my head.....
(so just fuck right off with your judgy comments) 😂

Go you and all of your fabulousness! Amazing results 😍💪

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Mounjaropen · 23/06/2025 11:32

LindtCurves · 22/06/2025 21:09

@KentishMama @MontyJinks Oh dear! Some of these compliments sound lovely but some would be truly cringe to be on the receiving end of!

To be honest I’ve not had compliments as such, more factual statements ‘you’ve lost lots of weight’ from a couple of very close friends (all male) when the topic has come up. No ‘you look so much better’ or anything which tbf I’d not have appreciated!

Separately to the weight loss though, I feel I’m treated differently/ people are friendlier/ flirtier, and I hear ‘you look glowing today’ or ‘that dress looks amazing on you’ a lot.

Family have been quite difficult and not supportive at all though :( Even to the point of raising it loudly if I don’t order dessert after a large 2-course meal etc

Have you also come across the crew that criticise obesity as a phenomenon and how badly everyone eats, but also comment when you might decline a fast food meal/ crisis/ choc bar or bring in chicken salad at lunch instead of something more UPF?

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Yep - I felt like everyone was watching how much of my main I ate on Saturday (most of it, it was 1/2 a chicken!). No nay sayers though. Just ignore them and their need to want you to eat crap you no longer fancy so that they can indulge...

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Mounjaropen · 23/06/2025 11:35

KentishMama · 23/06/2025 07:11

@LindtCurves My very skinny mum has always been fantastic at criticising my weight while offering me more chocolate. 😂

Blimey..I think we could all be sisters... my very overweight mother was always critical of my weight to the point of comparing her 5ft size 18-20 body with my 5ft 5" size 12 one when I was a teenager. Even got the tape measure out once to check her thigh size against mine. Ridiculous woman 😂

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Mounjaropen · 23/06/2025 11:37

LindtCurves · 23/06/2025 09:26

Are we sisters? 🤣

Well, not quite, but my mum/ aunties act as follows:

Criticise you if too skinny (= healthy weight) or too fat (=obese), you’ve got to be the right amount of chubby
After having said you’ve gained weight, serve an elaborate meal and comment if you haven’t eaten your share of everything. If a cake is served, there is no ‘one slice’, it has to be finished by the people present
Say things like ‘women in our family weren’t designed to be waifish’ and criticising people in the public eye with a healthy weight

I’ve been a good weight (middle of healthy BMI, physically active, eating home cooked balanced meals) 3 periods of my life and have been accused of having an eating disorder each time.

Thus I have some strong views on the eating habits people install in their children, as I feel that these attitudes have damaged me. I was the most overweight child in my class and that wasn’t seen as a problem, but me taking up a sport and getting to a good weight and healthy lifestyle due to that was.

My mum thankfully isn’t tooooo bad but has several of the above messaged internalised.

Right, how’s that for Monday morning therapy? 😆

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Totally agree with this. DD has put a lot of weight on recently but I would never mention it - I suspect she has put herself back on the pill so it is her body and her choice. My own Mother would've given her an eating disorder by now.

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Mounjaropen · 23/06/2025 11:38

Pumpkinforever · 23/06/2025 09:47

“Also added in my head..... (so just fuck right off with your judgy comments) 😂”

so right @MontyJinks especially those “giving the accusatory hard stare”!

The recent heatwave didn’t bother me as I had clothes to wear that didn’t make me look as though I was either wearing a tent or doing a Michelin man impression.

@MagnoliaTreePetals my sister suspects but is really happy and supportive of my progress. We see each other every two months, so every time since November there has been a stone less of me 😂 She is genuinely delighted and doesn’t have a problem with WLIs, she just wants a healthy older sister. I probably will tell her next time I see her - in a stone’s time 🤞🏻

My skinny mother is a feeder @KentishMama I was tubby youngster. She had me on all sorts of whacky diets between 13 and 17. Interesting I stayed at a French penpal when I was 17 for the whole summer and came back slim. My mother was a mixture of shocked and furious because then started a stream of boyfriends. I then stayed slim until children

I really do think there is a difference between how morbidly obese people are treated compared to slim/overweight people. First impressions etc.

good therapy @LindtCurves

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Yay! To no tent dresses! 💪

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Mounjaropen · 23/06/2025 11:43

TeenLifeMum · 23/06/2025 10:07

So many internalised attacks on myself mostly from my brother’s comments about me being fat as a teenager. I was a curvy (big boobed from age 9!) size 8 and spent my whole teen years feeling fat because of him. My parents didn’t do much other than joke he’d be paying for the clinic if I developed an eating disorder (hahahaha 🙄).

Dad and brother would say things like “here comes fatty”! I look back at how tiny I was and feel cross. Dad compliments centred around the fact he likes larger women so “you’ve got lovely big hips” did not feel like the compliment he intended at age 19! Dh was my boyfriend then and was horrified. He was the first person to put my dad in his place (but dh is super diplomatic so he did it well).

Sounds all very dysfunctional but we were and are a loving family other than weight comments. Dm actually apologised about 10 years ago for not stepping in when dad and brother were making fat jokes assumed at me. They apparently thought it was fine because I “obviously wasn’t fat at all”. Dm is now fiercely protective of my DDs when they stay and silences dad. But I’m definitely scarred.

I'm so sorry to read this. That was awful behaviour from your Dad and DB but given the circumstances I guess you have to forgive to free yourself from it all. Keep going, you are doing amazingly well for such a stressful time.

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PinkArt · 23/06/2025 11:47

Mounjaropen · 23/06/2025 11:04

God bless indeed - more yesterday and this morning 139.2lb 😂💪

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I've been inspired and there's now some Miraval in the fridge! 🍷

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Mounjaropen · 23/06/2025 11:47

Cantbesure · 23/06/2025 10:41

Lots of family weight issues and complexes here too. As a shorty it’s always been a struggle to get clothes that fit. Children’s clothes that fit my height didn’t fit my curves and I remember my mum making comments about me looking awful about 11-12 in a changing room.

I was thin but used to make myself sick after eating in my teens. Then I went to uni and met my ex and piled the weight on. I had no clue about portion control. Then I had two children and my weight yo-yoed for years. I lost weight pre lockdown but put it all and more again until MJ.

My children both ended up also putting weight on in their late teens. I think it’s when heavy activity stops and a more sedentary life style starts. And I’ve not been in charge of what they eat and the takeaways and own money have won out.

My DD was the first to go on MJ. I feel bad that I let her down to the point it was needed. But so proud of her for tackling it now and she looks simply amazing. My son is calorie counting and doing well.

I think family dynamics/careless words from a teenage boyfriend have a lot to answer for in general!

Glad your DC are doing well now alongside you 🙌

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TeenLifeMum · 23/06/2025 11:48

Mounjaropen · 23/06/2025 11:43

I'm so sorry to read this. That was awful behaviour from your Dad and DB but given the circumstances I guess you have to forgive to free yourself from it all. Keep going, you are doing amazingly well for such a stressful time.

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Dad was honestly a great dad and brother and I have a great relationship (now he lives in a different country 😂) but their obsession with weight and “harmless” jokes really did damage and I’m mindful of that with my DDs.

I think some level of childhood trauma is to be expected - parents aren’t perfect and I wonder what my dc will take from their childhood.

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Mounjaropen · 23/06/2025 11:49

TeenLifeMum · 23/06/2025 11:48

Dad was honestly a great dad and brother and I have a great relationship (now he lives in a different country 😂) but their obsession with weight and “harmless” jokes really did damage and I’m mindful of that with my DDs.

I think some level of childhood trauma is to be expected - parents aren’t perfect and I wonder what my dc will take from their childhood.

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I know what mine will say - every time there is a controversy/funny moment one of them says "well that's going in the eulogy" 😂

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LindtCurves · 23/06/2025 12:01

Mounjaropen · 23/06/2025 11:14

Interesting and thank you for sharing.

I read the same article - Sarah Jossel in the Sunday Times? Didn't really see the point of the article given that there was no actual advice or treatments recommended? What was your take away from it?

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Yes same article. I’ve not got a copy in front of me now but basically she said going crazy with fillers isn’t the answer, and a lot depends on face shape (rounder v longer) and how it looks on it.

But no, no actual advice/ recommendations, just how fat is a natural filler and losing it will of course have an effect

LindtCurves · 23/06/2025 12:08

Mounjaropen · 23/06/2025 11:24

Oh I agree with all of this - if my Mother was still with us she would've been the first person to be critical...and to try and serve cake and crap every 5 mins so she had an excuse to eat it too. I bet that's what's going on - your success denies the family members permission to eat whatever they want guilt-free.

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It’s funny isn’t it. My mum is in a job where amongst other things she should have a good idea of a healthy diet. She’s not a big takeaway fan but she genuinely seems to have no clue?

I might say something like how lean proteins are important, and how eating dessert with every meal/ eating late at night might not be the best thing. Or how weights/ regular exercise is good for the body. Or how fresh food is better than UPFs because of additives. And she argues with basic widely acknowledged nutritional principles?

I’m not sure she knows what fibre is 🙈

And gets upset if cake is declined.

Pumpkinforever · 23/06/2025 12:33

So as part of the Monday morning MJ therapy and treats session I have just booked an eyebrow and eyelash tint session for tomorrow morning. I last had it done in 2021! High time I got back into it as I am rubbish at putting mascara on🙄

Pumpkinforever · 23/06/2025 12:38

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cglz4xyk7w9o

so with the NHS rules I wouldn’t quality as not enough stuff would be wrong with. And what happens to those people who need it for more than 2 years? Do they wait until their weight is big enough to re-qualify?

Hopefully once it’s available in tablet form then MJ etc will be cheaper and potentially more accessible

White injector pen with clear fluid in, held in two hands against a white background with shadows

Mounjaro weight loss jab available at GPs - to select few

NHS England says the first patients able to get the jab will be those most in need.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cglz4xyk7w9o

LindtCurves · 23/06/2025 13:39

Pumpkinforever · 23/06/2025 12:33

So as part of the Monday morning MJ therapy and treats session I have just booked an eyebrow and eyelash tint session for tomorrow morning. I last had it done in 2021! High time I got back into it as I am rubbish at putting mascara on🙄

Im sure you’ll look fab! Enjoy!

So how are we affecting the economy as a demographic? Takeaway revenue going down and fashion and beauty going up? 😇😆

AlwaysTimeForWine · 23/06/2025 15:32

So reassuring to hear that some of you are getting the same comments I am. 'You're not going to lose anymore are you'
'Will you keep going until you're a lollipop?'
'How have you done it, no really, how?'
'You look so different' (bollox - I don't really'

I am not even in a healthy BMI yet (just another 3.5 lbs will do it). I am size 14, 5ft 9" and have size 8 feet. I'm hardly disappearing 😂

Seriously though - it is annoying. No one commented this much when I got fat.

I just keep saying to people - well, you didn't know me when I was slim. There are a handful of people I see who knew me pre-children, 20 years ago - and they don't bat an eyelid, the rest are newer colleagues or sport friends or neighbours, and they are all the ones making a fuss and telling me I am too skinn.

I always thought I didn't look hideous before I lost weight, my height and clothes hid it well. But I must have done.

AlwaysTimeForWine · 23/06/2025 15:58

Anyway - sorry for the rant! 😂

My daughter is starting MJ today. She is 18 years old and has just finished her A levels. She's had a truly dreadful 3 months with someone very close to her passing away suddenly, and has piled the weight on. She was already struggling with her weight. Her BMI is now 35 and she feels so out of control.

So I had a quiet chat with her and explained how I had lost my weight - my daughters were unaware. Despite me thinking they would have guessed - they really hadn't.

She seems really excited about the opportunity to try it, and hopes to lose some weight before heading to uni in September.

We are thinking about starting her on quite a small dose (maybe 1.25mg-2mg) to minimise any side-effects but I'm wondering if that would just be wasting time seen-as she wants to lose as much as she can before Uni starts?

Does anyone have any advice. I increased my doses very slowly, and after 32 weeks am only on 6.5mg and have lost 4 stone, so I can see the benefits of a low dose for a while.