is taking weight loss medication cheating?

[theweightlossqueen]

i used to be a super sporty child and then life happened. i've put on a few pounds and my food (mainly snacking) choices aren't the best...

i feel like if i just dedicated time to exercising then i'd get fit but i don't want to keep the current relationship that i have with food, you know?

is taking weight loss medication cheating, really?

Stop quoting me you bloody maniac

what the blazes has cancer diagnostics got to do with weight loss injections

There are new advances every day in non-imaging diagnostics but none are in the slightest bit relevant either

and more to the point what the blazes has any of this got to do with me

I had a reaction to a drug historically that caused acute liver failure. It was withdrawn from the market after 10yrs due to the large numbers of patients taking it suffering acute liver damage but it took time before reports built up.
As a result I cannot take new drugs without being closely monitored for liver function.
My liver recovered but I remain high risk for future acute liver failure, drug induced variety.

Bilbette very sorry I miss quoted you again.

I’m sorry, but so? Why do you keep pretending you’re going to be taking rhe drugs and assessing them, you’re not. That’s it, move on.

It was in response to the size of clinical trials.
Don’t worry I’m off now to take my DS back to uni. So no more bilge.

This is fucking hilarious now. So the same medication would be 'great' for us all to take for gum disease but not for morbid obesity. Definitely another case for 'I just hate the lazy fatties and want them to suffer their way to better health'.

I think it’s more “I want those drugs and can’t get them, either due to the health risks listed or just can’t afford them in reality and am literally obsessed you’re all losing weight on them when I’m struggling”

Even though the poster proclaims to be not fat with a bmi of 29.

@Angrymum22

You seem to be struggling with finding research papers (as opposed to TikTok videos 😊), please see this link to a cohort study of over 200k patients on GLP-1 agonists: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-024-03412-w This looked at 175 health outcomes.

Your insistence that weight loss is just a “bonus side effect” of these drugs is incomprehensible coming from a medic. Obesity impairs metabolic and cardiac health, negatively affects the immune system, increases the risk of dementia and other neurological conditions, leads to low grade chronic inflammation, etc. Treating obesity directly translates into a reduction of those risks.

And since you’re so keen on Metformin, did you also post in the same alarmist way when pharmas started recalling Metformin a few years ago? Or when Metformin got its black box warning for lactic acidosis? Or its B12 deficiency warning? Or do you reserve that for WLIs only?

They really couldn’t give AF about diabetics not getting the drugs.

This is exactly what it is .

And now you are no longer fat you feel it necessary to label other people.

I read the full article, I subscribe to Nature, bit of a science geek. It’s an observational piece rather than scientific study and throws up some really interesting future uses for the drugs. Worth paying for the full article.
It will hopefully lead to further clinical studies in other disease areas.

You don’t know what weight I am, 😂

don’t make assumptions it just embarrasses you further,

They are, their in clinical trials for a number of things including things like Alzhimers disease and Parkinsons disease.

Just out of pure curiosity if this drug was approved for use in alzhimers, parkinsons, arthritis, gum disease, alcohol use disorder or a range of other disorders where these drugs are being explored either in a clinical or preclinical manner, would you be still against their use in case of the small possibility that complications may arise?

Or is it just fat people who are too stupid, lazy and greedy to fix their own problem so shouldn't have this life saving drug just in case a complication may arise?

Missing the woods for the trees

No weight loss is not a 'bonus side effect'

It's the primary issue

Duh

Hello!

To be honest, after reading the responses I'm not sure what to think 😥
I do see the argument for saying that it is not cheating. Clearly societal pressures have made me think in a certain way but I still can't grasp using medications of any kind to drop weight truthfully!

One thing is for sure, it isn't cheating but my own internal battle perhaps

It's worth reflecting upon whether you think all pharmacotherapy is 'cheating'.

Do you think medical treatment of depression, hypertension, rheumatoid arthritis (as random examples) is cheating?

Is chemotherapy cheating too?

What about surgical intervention, is that cheating? If you have an operation for any reason, is that cheating?

Where do you draw the line?

It's absolutely up to you if you chose to use the jabs or not. To me they are a tool, an incredibly helpful tool that is helping my body do something it wasn't capable of doing alone. A tool to get me to hugely improved health and statistically probably a longer life. Your situation and choice might be a different one and that's totally cool.
Calling it cheating isn't cool though. It's a very antagonistic term. It's no more cheating than statins, contact lenses, the pill etc that technically aren't life saving, but are massively health improving.

@theweightlossqueen you can't grasp why people would use weight loss medication? Is that what you meant to say or have I misunderstood?

Would you say that smokers who use nicotine patches/gum to break their habit are cheating?

I need an extra boost to help me lose weight, god knows I've tried everything else. I'm prepared to risk the side effects in order to lose the risks associated with being obese.

A PP described people using these drugs as chasing thin; I'd be delusional to believe I could ever be thin. I'm chasing not being so fat that my joints hurt every time I walk up and down stairs. I'm chasing not looking in a mirror and saying how much I hate myself. Chasing being able to wear the clothes I like rather than being restricted to what fits me. Chasing enjoying life basically, instead of saying no to stuff because I'm embarrassed by how I look/feel.