Secret users - how many people do you think are taking MJ

[LeanneJP]

I’m a November starter and haven’t told a soul, not even my DH. I may do at some point, I just want to see how I go for a while. I’m just wondering how many other people may be taking it that we all know in real life but have no clue. On another thread someone said her beautician said almost everyone is secretly on it! Do you really think that’s the case?

There's definitely someone in my circle who's been on it for a few months and she's lost loads. She hinted at it being related to side effects of medication.. but I'm not buying it!! I don't care I think it's great that people are taking steps to improve their health - wish DH would consider it..

There's a weird thing where you hear all of these stories about what someone's friend's uncle's hairdresser's sister said but IRL the worst I've heard of is a bit of tummy upset that either goes away or the person voluntarily stops taking it.

It's not fiction is it, the link I shared was from the MHRA. If they are expressing concern it would make sense to sit up and notice.

And having googled it is clear the press are reporting on it.

I would love the drugs to be totally benign, and for many it may be worth the risks, but it is important to understand the risks and not attack people who talk about them. I don't get at all angry if people talk about the very serious risks of my medication, indeed I am grateful they acknowledge the risk I live with every day. It's curious how defensive people are about the risks of Mounjaro

www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-14059075/amp/Mounjaro-health-never-taken-patients-effects-UK-death.html

I have!

I am referring to the "my friend the nurse" anecdote, not the MHRA update which is not news to me.

As I have already said, what you brought to this discussion was not a reasoned comment about the risks, it was hearsay from your nurse friend that has obvious holes in its logic as already pointed out. It wasn't an attempt to have a reasoned discussion about risk! It was alarmist and sensationalist. No one is saying that this medication is "benign", just that the risks are no better or worse than other medications that don't get this sensationalist treatment.

The MHRA link is asking GPs to inform patients of side effects if they are notified that they are taking it. It does not back up the claim that large numbers of people are being hospitalised with those side effects. In fact the link itself states that the extreme side effects are 'rare'. I think most people on here are aware of those potential side effects and are not in denial about them.

The article said nothing about the huge numbers of people allegedly in hospital as stated by your nurse friend ? It was a standard governmental warning/advice.
There will always be people who use medication incorrectly and who do not read instructions/advice.
This isn’t news.
What’s your seemingly enthusiastic personal interest in this ?

It’s 1 in 5 in the US and I’d assume it’s a little less here. Since I’ve started I’ve discovered about 15 friends and family that are too

Ok, I think you’re misunderstanding the conversation.

everyone knows of these rare side effects. The conversation is about lots of people being admitted to hospital seriously ill as someone posted. This is what’s being disputed. The link you posted said it was rare. So doesn’t support your argument.

you also understand all drugs have rare complications. Nurfen for example gives kidney malfunction and stomach bleeding.

ecery single drug has rare side effects. There is no dispute. No anger. The conversation is someone posted it was common.

While I can understand why you want privacy, isn't this dangerous.

What if you fall ill (through this or something else) and he can't tell them you are taking it.

@SweetSakura it's always a friend who said blah blah blah.

Not sure which one of you isn't being honest but it's absolutely not the case that she's treating huge amounts of patients who are desperately ill

I was also talking to a friend who is a nurse the other day and she doesn't understand why the media is not talking more about the people who end up desperately ill from taking it. She says she has had to treat quite a number of people who have been made dangerously ill. And that's just in one hospital

ah, is that your friend’s cousin’s husband? I heard the same…ffs

My best friend saw I'd lost weight and was really worried I'd taken it as she's read about the side effects and I had said to her that I might try it.

is she really worried or is she worried you’ll lose weight and she won’t be the thin one? Even my ‘healthy eating obsessed’ mum has now come around to the fact these are game changing and life saving drugs

I don’t think you understand probability or percentages
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of course there are side effects with the medication. Those are clearly stated.

you are reporting something much more serious than the rare side effects you have quoted.

I would suggest this is an exaggerated story you have heard and now belief to be true.

Oh @SweetSakura when you’re posting a Daily Mail article as proof of your rabid proclamations it’s perhaps time to admit….you were wrong

Oh I’ve just realised it was the same poster who made the daft comment about the nurse friend and lots of desperately Ill folk, who then erroneously backed it up with an article saying it was rare.

i wonder why people do stuff like that.

Is that right 1 in 5 Americans are taking it???

How can they afford it 😬. I desperately want to start (morbidly obese) but need to change job first and that's proving stressful (not least as I'm restricted due to being morbidly obese...)

Quick Google says it's 1 in 8 have tried so that's still a fair amount.

I'm really hoping it will work for me and I can cope with side effects.

I'm also thinking realistically many of these people may need to stay on the drugs. That's a lot of drugs to make.

Are we behind the US in terms of prescription then.

And are people in the US on the whole getting smaller then??

Yes the stats are out there, but think it’s something like 3 percent reduction in overall obesity in the population. And yes we are significantly behind the us, the fda approved it before the mhra did in uk. I’m not sure who was first, as obviously it’s approved in many countries, from china to Australia to France

I hadn't told anyone apart from my husband. I've been on them since they came out. With all the media attention people started guessing. My mum accused me of being on them a few times but I denied it. I don't want my mum to know as she will tell my sister and I'll be judged. My cousins recently were talking about friends that were on them so I confessed to them. Hopefully the cats not out the bag for the whole family! I think that as they are becoming more and more well known, people are starting to guess. Especially when you become slimmer than you have ever been before.

Maybe they will start being normalized soon enough, but until then, I'm keeping it mainly to myself.

A lot have it covered by their health insurance. They pay varying amounts for it, depending on how good their insurance is. Some $5 some $500 a month plus.

There is drama in the US where some health insurance no longer want to cover it. So some have had to stop as it's $1k + a month there without insurance! So for it's it's pretty cheap in comparison.

To the two posters on this thread who said they are vomiting twice a day or feel desperately unwell on the second week of 5mg . Reduce your dose!

I am 21stone. If I finally do get to take it it probably will be obvious if I end up 13stone (with any luck) or even 15...

Hence my initial interest in this thread. People will likely "know" something happened won't they. It's something I've been pondering.

They will know you dieted and lost weight. And so what if you get help from wli. What doesn’t it matter if people suspect. Or know. Our health is more important that what people wonder about.

Jeeze. We live in a world where we make women feel their ultimate goal in life should be to become as small/ thin as possible l

We then make ourselves sick from eating over processed unnatural foods full of sugar and chemicals... and doing very little exercise....

So women (it's mostly women) then feel that they must spend £1000's on more chemicals which they inject into themselves, making them feel sick, so they can starve themselves and get even less nutrition.... to be thin.

Oh and don't forget to pump some shit into your cheeks, eyes and forehead whilst you're at it ladies!

There's a criminal, orange sex pest in charge of the largest superpower, who is mates with a bond villain who spreads lies, misogyny and hate around the world...

The patriarchy is alive and well ladies. Truly it is 😔

For most people on these they are obese/morbidly obese so it's health concerns in my case as much as beauty standards. I agree around issues around women and beauty but in terms of these drugs they are targeted at those of us u healthily large.

I've been pondering why I don't want people to know. I actually think it's just my immediate family as they are judgy especially around money as I hardly have any. And weight. And well they're not all that nice really.

I am likely to start in April which seems ages away now!