I’ve finished Mounjaro - weekly update to report on what happens when you finish!

[NearingendofMJ]

I started taking MJ at the beginning of April. I’ve been a slow loser, and have lost 2 stone in the time I’ve been on MJ.

My starting weight was 84kg and I am now 71.5, I am 5’7.

I took my last injection last Sunday, so just over a week ago and it was around 6mg (counting clicks on a 12.5mg pen)

I have definitely noticed hunger today. However I am able to deal with that at the moment by reminding myself I had lunch an hour ago etc so I do not need to eat.

I think everyone on these meds worries what may happen when you stop. It’s like any diet, if there isn’t a lifestyle change, you will regain all the weight.

I thought I’d start a thread for some real life experience of what will happen - I’m aware I’ll still have MJ in my system for the next couple of weeks, but will be a good experiment to see if the hunger becomes unbearable or manageable with my new found knowledge of better food groups to eat!

Having been on MJ for 6 months I’m fairly sure I am able to make better choices now - famous last words 😂

Op you’ve come over all ex smoker. Sounding like you’re now the expert and poster child for healthy living and we all just need to do what you do. And yer you needed weight loss drugs yourself. As you couldn’t do it. In fact you were one of the first in the queue.

And now at the other end of your journey you’re telling us all our issues and how to live . It doesn’t read well. It reads like the evangelical ex smoker looking down on those poor sods still puffing away.

That’s not my intention at all. I’ve said throughout the thread how happy I was to take it. I just want to maintain myself now, my opinion is my own - if someone wants to take it long term that’s totally their choice. It’s just not for me as I don’t think it’s worth the risk, so am going to try do it alone

Yes op I think everyone understands this.

So given that there’s a lot of evidence that you’re wrong about thinking there’s no difference between an ex-obese person with a BMI of 24 and someone who’s always been a normal weight with the same BMI, can you at least acknowledge that it’s NOT as simple as being ‘mindful’ for the ex-obese person?

Your sentence “This time I’ll be keeping such a close eye on it that I’m confident I won’t get to that stage again” — is literally what every single ex-obese person says after they’ve lost weight..!

You're reading into this how you want to read into this. Taking it personally.

Nobody has said EVERYONE could have, but it's not factually incorrect some of us could have. People just don't like to admit it to themselves. Both myself and OP have put our hands up and said in our cases (and of course there will be other people) it was our own doing.

Nobody ever said that was the case for everybody, though without fat shaming, I also don't believe the HUGE percentage of people who would rather assume they have a hormone issue to blame for their problems. Some will, not everyone will.

I’m not sure I agree, I could have, I am absolutely over weight as I ate and drank too much and moved too little. The pandemic, menopause, stopping smoking, working from home, busy social life enjoying myself, meals out, hectic job, saw me become obese. Absolutely it was my fault,

but I also know staying a healthy weight was a lifelong effort for me, exercise, hunger, deprivation. And I am simply not sure I have it in me to manage that long term and live like that, it’s fucking miserable. And I know that it would be easy to slip into bad habits again, no matter how well I start off. As it’s not the first few months is the issue, we are all gung ho at that point and full of hope, it’s a year later. Two.

so for me, I will keep on a low maintenance dose, to take the edge off, and make it not miserable and ensure I stay a healthy weight, well when I get there. 😃

And that's fine @TheBoldHelper if you want to stay on MJ to help you - I don't think there is any shame in that.

What I am talking about is everyone saying it wasn't their overeating or not moving to blame. It's now always hormones. My point is, it's not hormones for everyone.

@SnacklessWonder I think you misunderstand what it is to have a "hormone problem".

Nobody here is abdicating responsibility from the fact that our hands moved the food that we chose to our mouths and voluntarily swallowed it.

But hormone issues drive behaviour. It's been clearly demonstrated in countless studies and is what the science is taken to be a given. If it was as simple as everyone "deciding" not to do it - and given that very few obese people enjoy being obese - we really wouldn't have the problems that we have.

Of course some people can just knock a few pounds off and then mindfully keep it off for life. And if you are one of those people - or the OP - then good luck to you, as I made clear when I first posted! But it really is not that simple for the vast majority, which is the point I'm making, and the opposite of the points the OP has been making.

No I haven't @85reasons so don't tell me what I have or haven't misunderstood.

Hormones did not make me get fat. I made me get fat.

Nothing drove my behaviour other than me. I am okay to put my hands up and say that.

@NearingendofMJ @SnacklessWonder
Op, I think we need to just agree to disagree. I'm very optimistic about the emerging evidence showing the benefits of glps on a range of health conditions and, given my age, it seems the best option currently available to me. I might feel differently if I were a formerly obese 30year old! But I'm not so I don't. And never in my life have I eaten '6 bags of crisps in a row or 10 kitkats' but I've been overweight or obese since I was 8years old so go figure...
You present your views as being rather definitive - 'its all about lifestyle', 'isn’t proven to have any other benefits other than reducing appetite', lots of 'shoulds' etc etc. But that's fine, it's your thread so I'm happy to leave it to you. There's a debate to be had about maintenance, and the pros and cons of ongoing WLM use, but not here it seems. Good luck.

Did you have other health factors that allowed the initial prescription at bmi 29?

Yes, I had slight high blood pressure

@KrankyKumquat I've never said it's all about lifestyle at all just that it is for some (ie me!).

Also interested in when there is more research/evidence into more conditions as my mother is end of life at the moment with dementia and Alzheimer's and was diagnosed around 63 so pretty early.

All I’m saying is that if you are at a bmi of 25 or lower, there’s no difference between someone who used to have a higher bmi and one who didn’t.

Unfortunately that simply isn’t true. Someone who has suffered with obesity will have a higher set point, that their brain will be subconsciously fighting to return to. Their BMR will be lower than someone who hasn’t YO-YO dieted and been obese - because their body has become more efficient and has decided to reduce calorie expenditure on the basis there might soon be another famine (diet). People with obesity experience hunger differently. So it’s not an even playing field for them.

I used to think the same as you calories in vs calories out but have done a lot of reading:-

Ultra processed people
Why we eat too much - Dr Andrew Jenkinson

Probably the two most enlightening and written by doctors not lay people.

Obesity is a disease and a person suffering with it isn’t simply weak willed.

I do hope that I can maintain as i absolutely do not want to be on WLM long term. I don’t feel confident enough yet that the benefits outweigh the risks of the drug (for me I will stress, I recognise for some people it might). I am 34 and have held a healthy weight for much of my life. But I have also yo-yoed. I think even if I can maintain for 6-12 months that would be progress.

Keep going with this thread @NearingendofMJ its very interesting

How disappointing. Life after Mounjaro is always my priority and I jumped on this thread and read with interest. It quickly unraveled though with the op saying that it is only down to will power and criticising continued use of MJ. The same old fat shaming.
Op the fact that your stomach pains are gone should inform you. Either you were eating very little fibre on MJ or MJ was working on an issue you were unaware of.
And those of you who have no energy, feel wiped out etc and reach for carbs and I’m guessing simple carbs have blood sugar
problems- see your doctor.

@Femme2804 , loved your insights. You’re so right.

I’m not sure why you think this - I was trying to say that having had 6 months on MJ, now being off it I feel it is much easier to manage cravings and willpower is easier because I now have the weight loss I wanted and don’t want to ruin that.

But unless I am blindly agreeing that everyone should stay on MJ for life, then I’m fat shaming?

Each to their own - why would it bother me if someone else stayed on MJ? I’m happy with the choice I made to come off it and I just wanted to start a thread to show what happens when you come off it, which included my opinions - which are just that, the same as someone who wants to stay on MJ.

But seems I’ve said the wrong thing so I’ll call it a day now

I for one would be really interested to learn about your progress op. I think
a thread like this is really helpful for people considering taking MJ but not sure because of the risk of putting all the weight back on when you stop. I would love to know what happens from someone who is actually going through that. 💐

@NearingendofMJ just ignore the determined to see what they want brigade. They have their own issues and are projecting perhaps. Find a Teflon coated shield 😉

crack on with your original thread idea. I and others are interested and find it helpful.

No. I see what is written @TheCatterall

@NearingendofMJ I am also really interested. You’re a real life case study! 🤣😊
I’m willing you and everyone else who has stopped to do well.

But all, can we hold off on it’s just a matter of willpower. If anything it is a matter of good choices and medical support if you require it.

If you prioritise PROTIEN firstbin EVERY meal, then veggies then carbs, you CAN control your blood sugar and therefore your hunger. Cut our ALL white carbs: bread pasta, pastries, white rice and stick to whole foods that nature intended. If you use real food and nothing that comes in a man made packet (food stuff full of additives), you will control the hormones and therefore your hunger. This is the secret to keeping the weight off.

Good luck. Well done on reaching a healthy weight.

I’d be really disappointed not to see your updates. I’m close to losing 3stone on MJ and will be going into maintenance, probably in the new year so it would be great to see how you get on.

please don’t let a few negative nancys stop you posting.

@NearingendofMJ , please don’t let the negativities put you off posting on this thread. We already know that this will attract people who will start saying you’ll pile the weight back on and I just wish they’ll stop. There’s lots of threads for them to do that, there’s a thread for those continuing Mounjaro and for those who will continue, they can get their support from that. For those who plan to stop after reaching their goal weight, it’ll be nice to see how you are getting on and getting encouragement from this thread so keep posting.
I for one can’t be on MJ for life, I’ll taper off when I get to my goal weight (still a long way off) and do the same as you. I’m learning along the way, I’m making changes and I’m not going to just go back to the way I do things before I started on this journey and we’ll see how it goes.
My mum lost a lot of weight( around 70kg) almost 17 years ago and she has kept it off to date so I don’t believe everyone who goes off the med will pile it back on because I can see her first hand. She used to say after the first two years, things just became routine to her.
No one is asking anyone to stop, this is just a thread for those who have decided to and it’s just mean to be telling them that they can’t do it.

Okay I’ll just keep to the facts from now on to avoid any conflict!

Feeling good today, had a protein shake this morning and am planning a healthy lunch.

Snack wise I’ve found almonds really good.

When I wake up I have an overwhelming hunger but now I realise that this is due to a blood sugar drop having not eaten overnight. I used to go straight to the kitchen but actually if I want 15 mins it seems to stabilise and the hunger is gone.

I then have breakfast around an hour after I get up - it’s working well for me as I’m still loosing - I’m not hugely strict at the weekend, but have upped my steps to at least 12k a day to account for it.

The feeling more human is just wonderful!