Why are we not being vocal about the miracle of weight loss jabs. ?

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I started Mountjaro in April at 15 stone 10
I am now 11 stone . Which is my goal weight for my 5'10 frame. I have maintained that for 2 months having started regular exercise that I really enjoy - as well as ZOE healthy eating /cooking which I enjoy equally.

When people say to me 'Wow ! You look amazing (I'm not daft - they mean you don't look fat anymore) .. how have you done it . I am truthful and say 'fat jabs' .. and expand if they don't understand.

However , I have noticed on all the gazillion threads in here about weight loss injections, people are reticent to be honest . .. "my DH knows but haven't told anyone else " .. is a common remark . But WHY ???

Obesity is a life threatening condition. Like Dementia , cancer , liver failure etc etc .. if anyone had one of those conditions and found a drug to help , would they keep quiet or shout it from the bloody roof tops . ?

Or is the old adage true . Fat is a feminist (female) issue ? and we need to pretend it isn't ?

Given the scale of the obesity problems in the UK, I think they are valuable.

They bloody are. I'm sick of reading and hearing about these poxy weight loss jabs. I have hidden several pages on here - including the 'weight loss jabs' one, coz I am SICK of seeing the word mounjaro on here! And now the subject of 'weight loss jabs' is popping up on here FFS!

You were probably a bit stupid clicking on a thread on the weight loss injections board then

You're right, I don't care.
I think these jabs should be saved for the people for whom they were developed, i.e people with diabetes. There are supply problems in some places because people are buying up the drug and diabetics can't get hold of it.
Before you mention it, yes I know that the risk of side effects applies to everyone, but gastroparesis is also a complication of diabetes.
I wonder why you are so touchy about someone pointing out the possible side effects. I'm not making it up, it's a fact. No amount of "I took blah blah and had such and such a side effect....." will change it.
Good luck with your weight loss.

Like I said, I was 26 stone when I started losing weight (or thereabouts), I lost 4 stone naturally, across about two years. It was the typical "0.5-1lbs a week for a healthy weight loss!" but I struggled with my mental health outside of the weight loss and always turned to food as a comfort.

Now I'm totally neutral towards food. Couldn't care less about it. I'm able to live my life and not be worried about when I'll eat next or what I'll be eating

Clinically, these drugs are not a miracle cure and not everyone can take them safely. Perhaps more pertinently, depending on local arrangements, they are not available to everyone on the NHS for weight loss reasons alone and are generally very expensive privately.
Its great that you have lost so much weight through, well done

Then you haven't read any of the longitudinal studies published in the BMJ and are yet another one judging the obese for wanting not to be .. from a point of complete ignorance.

I was poorly at the beginning of the year, lost nearly a stone over three weeks. Was not at all well. A few times since I’ve had a similar question from acquaintances, goes like ‘oh you’ve dropped weight, did you manage that yourself?’ The tone was not kind but as they were not people I particularly care about I just thought ‘weird’ and went on with my day.

Fuck me. The penny has just dropped and now I know what they were saying. What the hell? Imagine ‘oh, you’re walking around with a fancy gait, did you manage that yourself?’ No. Last time you saw me I’d broken my leg so I went to the hospital and got a cast put on it you nob’.

I think mostly because they are not a 'miracle' for most people who take them.

It's not like you jab yourself, are never hungry and then wake up miraculously skinny. Most people on it are A- spending an absolute fortune to have it B- are having to cut down, eat well and exercise to lose weight and C- are just as worried as they have ever been when on any weight loss journey that they are going to pile it all back on when they stop taking it.

As a nation goes, I think we'd be far better off educating people as to the dangers of obesity and food addiction from the consumption of ultra processed foods. If we stopped the next generation from being slaves to that shite we could make real societal change. Much better than forcing every fat person onto a drug that doesn't even work for everyone.

ibuprofen nearly killed my dad. Shall we take it off the shelves?

Looks like it! Maybe you forgot

Thanks, I’m actually at goal weight now with a BMI of 23. Run a couple of times a week and strength train 3 times a week. I feel (and look 😉) fab!

That's great news!

Of course it depends on the individual case whether it's suitable or not.

I’ve never successfully lost a significant amount of weight. I basically think about food all day every day. It’s exhausting. It’s there all the time.

Until I took the jab. It’s not about losing weight fast - it’s about losing it consistently without it taking over your life.

I’m eating what would be a healthy diet but I’m just not as hungry, don’t think about food and find it much easier to make better choices.

I haven’t had any side effects past some nausea in the first two weeks.

I’ve lost nearly 3 stone since end May and it’s been straightforward. Not ‘easy’ but fine which it hasn’t been for 20+ years.

@WandaFishy99 at least quote the right person. You're quoting me.

Sorry I missed your posts. Well done on your weight loss journey.
I think my problem is that I turn to good at every opportunity (sad/happy/bored). The problem might be in my head...

Oh, and there’s no shortage of Mounjaro. The only issue with supply to diabetics is that the NHS won’t pay for it.

No I don't know the LONG LONG term outcome.. I have read the 15+ year studies published in the BMJ ..

But as I am 57 .. if not being obese will help me get to 80 .. rather than dead from a stroke at 67 .. then I simply say .. bring it on !

@AmberAlert86 I was the same and now I don't care about food. It's crazy

It's probably aimed at people who expect this on the NHS. I must admit I didn't realise you had to pay for it yourself but I think that gives far greater incentive to keep the weight off. Otherwise it's in danger of being seen as a lifestyle option. I certainly have zero problem with it if it's not at taxpayer expense- not my business.

Your post has reduced me to tears.
You understand me.
I'm worn down by people's misperception of why I am so overweight.
You have described me perfectly.
Thank you🙏

OP this ignorance right here is why we are not more vocal about the scientific breakthrough that this medication truly is.

Now if only there was a medication to fix stupidity.

Wegovy was the main diabetes med. Mounjaro has been approved for weightloss, making obese people those people who it's meant for too. A drug can help more than one issue. Obese people are not stealing diabetes medicine for weightloss.

'The MHRA has approved Mounjaro for patients with type 2 diabetes and patients with obesity. The drug has also been approved by the National Institute for Health and Care Excellence for use in the NHS for type 2 diabetes and is awaiting approval for obesity.'

@BustyCrustacean but the expense to the taxpayer (as they are beginning to roll it out on the NHS, 1.6m people will be eligible in the first phase) will work out to be smaller than an ageing, fat population.

We currently pay the price of obesity, and that's only going to get worse.

I think my colleague has had them. She has lost weight but looks ill and drawn. She isn't ill, I know this for sure.

I also think we do not know the long term side effects of them for non diabetics.

So no o don't think they're a miracle at all.

Have you not seen the judgy fuckers on every weight loss jab thread? East less, move more blah, blah, blah. So many ignorant people around with no understanding of the issues obese people face (judgy fuckers being one of them), no empathy or even willingness to listen to/understand what obese people try to tell them. As I'm late to this thread and TLDR, I bet there's a few examples already.

@itwasnevermine
I apologise, but it's an easy mistake to make as you all melt together as a grey blob of anger and self-righteousness.