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Weight loss injections/treatments

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Why are we not being vocal about the miracle of weight loss jabs. ?

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AboutVattime · 07/10/2024 18:59

I started Mountjaro in April at 15 stone 10
I am now 11 stone . Which is my goal weight for my 5'10 frame. I have maintained that for 2 months having started regular exercise that I really enjoy - as well as ZOE healthy eating /cooking which I enjoy equally.

When people say to me 'Wow ! You look amazing (I'm not daft - they mean you don't look fat anymore) .. how have you done it . I am truthful and say 'fat jabs' .. and expand if they don't understand.

However , I have noticed on all the gazillion threads in here about weight loss injections, people are reticent to be honest . .. "my DH knows but haven't told anyone else " .. is a common remark . But WHY ???

Obesity is a life threatening condition. Like Dementia , cancer , liver failure etc etc .. if anyone had one of those conditions and found a drug to help , would they keep quiet or shout it from the bloody roof tops . ?

Or is the old adage true . Fat is a feminist (female) issue ? and we need to pretend it isn't ?

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AmICrazyToEvenBother · 07/10/2024 22:43

since1986 · 07/10/2024 22:32

Tell me you know fuck all about obesity and the mechanisms behind it without telling me 🙄

It's a compulsion and like an addiction. Blaming the individual rather than the wider industry and root causes serves NO ONE.

Silly Dave the alcoholic, coping with his trauma and the miswiring of his brain and damaged dopamine receptors, living within easy reach of all those supermarket shelves, pubs and offys. If only he'd taken accountability... <-- when you say it like that you'd sound a bit of a twat, wouldn't you?

So aggressive.

Yes, I would say thst someone who was a drug addict was partially to blame and that denying that isn't going to do them any favours.

AmICrazyToEvenBother · 07/10/2024 22:45

HeBeaverandSheBeaver · 07/10/2024 22:29

@AmICrazyToEvenBother

Actually. No they are not responsible

Read up on refined vegetable oils and how they fuck up your brain and bloods.
Try buying ANYTHING without vegetable oils and you will see why we are having issues.

Unless you completely cook from scratch and use grass fed meats you simply can't get away from them. Unaffordable for most time pressed families

Well yes, I do use those things but I'm not obese! I'm not saying that isn't a factor. But it's not the ONLY one is it? If it was everyone would be overweight.

And yes, I do cook from scratch most of the time, although standard supermarket meat.

WeeklyJab · 07/10/2024 22:47

Well, OP, that answers your question pretty comprehensively, doesn’t it?

Judgey asshats come rushing out of the woodwork to tell you how morally bankrupt you are for paying for meds to improve own health.

I wish every one of them a toothache tomorrow for the nastiness they’ve shown.

since1986 · 07/10/2024 22:50

AmICrazyToEvenBother · 07/10/2024 22:43

So aggressive.

Yes, I would say thst someone who was a drug addict was partially to blame and that denying that isn't going to do them any favours.

Then you know nothing about the mechanisms of drug or alcohol addiction and dependency either, as well as genetic dispositions and compulsion. So kindly, trot off.

Though I mean, I'll happily send you my 23&me genetic data report if you'd like where it clearly highlights strong predisposition to many things, one of which is obesity and others compulsivity, adhd etc, if it may help in any way? AI does a sterling job of digging deep in the data too to find even more gems like predispositions to certain gut microbia, dopamine responses, MTHFR mutations and all sorts of life altering and impactful things.

HeBeaverandSheBeaver · 07/10/2024 22:50

@AmICrazyToEvenBother
3/4 of the uk are obese or overweight so yes it is nearly everyone.

AmICrazyToEvenBother · 07/10/2024 22:51

itwasnevermine · 07/10/2024 22:34

To all of those who have judged, I'd like you to try something tomorrow.

With your morning alarm, label it "think about all the food you ate yesterday, and how bad that was", no matter if you had a "good" or "bad" day.

After about five minutes of that, you can get out of bed and go downstairs and make your favourite coffee. But wait, you were naughty yesterday so you have the red milk and ignore what you want, and you take something pitiful like a handful of strawberries for breakfast.

But you feel shamed for eating them because there's no way fat people like fruit, right? So then you feel the nagging shame and guilt all morning, you're starving because you've had next to nothing to eat, but you can't eat more yet because you've got to be good today!!!

It gets to lunch and you're ravenous, so you eat your wrap (only 350 calories mind!! We have to be careful), and you're still hungry, so you go for a walk to stop yourself feeling like that. But when you get back you're still starving so you have a coffee, but they only have green milk not red, so you feel guilty for that choice.

"May as well lump a sugar in there".

And oh, there's treats because it's someone's birthday and "well, a skinny person can have a treat every now and again", but one treat turns to two because you're restricting yourself and that leads into the binge-restrict cycle.

So you go on your calorie counting app and see you've suddenly jumped from 500 calories to 1000, so you're obviously a failure! You were meant to be good and you've fucked it up! And there's no way you're having dinner for 200 calories, so have another treat, go on, be nice to yourself.

Then you get home and have dinner and you feel so ashamed, so sickened and disgusted you can't bear the thought of going to the gym or out for a walk because you're disgusting, you're horrid and vile and this is why you're fat because why can't you just be normal?

So you get in bed, and tomorrow will be a good day.

But it never is. Because you're constantly surrounded by horrible thoughts and thinking, you can't stop thinking about food and there's always room for a sweet treat, and everyone thinks you're disgusting anyway so you may as well lean into that.

if needed, set alarms to think about food every five minutes

That's why it's not as simple as just eating less and moving more. Society has conditioned us to hate our very beings, and to associate our eating habits with whether we're good or bad people. It's never that easy.

I think the main issue here would be the shit diet.

Greek yoghurt would be better with the strawberries and a wrap at lunchtime isn't going to do you any favours. Completely empty calories and not filling at all!

Sologurn · 07/10/2024 22:51

doodleygirl · 07/10/2024 19:04

Not trying to be goady but if you are exercising and healthy eating why do you need injections?

This is why

AngelicKaty · 07/10/2024 22:53

absolutelydone · 07/10/2024 22:35

Scary when people post here thinking they are armed with facts when it’s just really uneducated BS 🤐

Yeah, I guess I just imagined reading that Novo Nordisk, the manufacturer of Semaglutide under various brand names, notified the Medicine Shortage Action Group (MSAG) in the US that "supply will remain limited for the rest of 2024."

AmICrazyToEvenBother · 07/10/2024 22:53

HeBeaverandSheBeaver · 07/10/2024 22:50

@AmICrazyToEvenBother
3/4 of the uk are obese or overweight so yes it is nearly everyone.

All because they use vegetable oil?

I'm sorry but the levels of delusion are ridiculous. That is not the only problem, is it?

AmICrazyToEvenBother · 07/10/2024 22:54

since1986 · 07/10/2024 22:50

Then you know nothing about the mechanisms of drug or alcohol addiction and dependency either, as well as genetic dispositions and compulsion. So kindly, trot off.

Though I mean, I'll happily send you my 23&me genetic data report if you'd like where it clearly highlights strong predisposition to many things, one of which is obesity and others compulsivity, adhd etc, if it may help in any way? AI does a sterling job of digging deep in the data too to find even more gems like predispositions to certain gut microbia, dopamine responses, MTHFR mutations and all sorts of life altering and impactful things.

I'm trotting nowhere, thanks. I'll walk or flounce.

since1986 · 07/10/2024 22:55

AngelicKaty · 07/10/2024 22:53

Yeah, I guess I just imagined reading that Novo Nordisk, the manufacturer of Semaglutide under various brand names, notified the Medicine Shortage Action Group (MSAG) in the US that "supply will remain limited for the rest of 2024."

For those at the back..

Our 👏 NHS 👏 supply 👏 chains 👏 are 👏 protected 👏 and 👏 separate 👏 to 👏 private 👏 in 👏 the 👏 UK.

since1986 · 07/10/2024 22:56

AmICrazyToEvenBother · 07/10/2024 22:54

I'm trotting nowhere, thanks. I'll walk or flounce.

A flounce is as good as the rest.

HeBeaverandSheBeaver · 07/10/2024 23:00

Read the book "why we eat to much " it explains it all

It messes with our leptin levels. This tells us when we are hungry. They are buggered

Add to that takeaways at every corner Costa frappes and snacking now encouraged as normal by advertising.

Sugar replacement for fats and it's a perfect storm

I don't blame individuals I blame the govt for allowing this and food companies for knowingly serving shit.

It's akin to the Tobacco company's and it's starting to become known thanks to a few decent researchers and journalists

ChangeHasCome · 07/10/2024 23:03

since1986 · 07/10/2024 22:55

For those at the back..

Our 👏 NHS 👏 supply 👏 chains 👏 are 👏 protected 👏 and 👏 separate 👏 to 👏 private 👏 in 👏 the 👏 UK.

Indeed. Not to mention most people are taking Tirzepatide (Mounjaro) on these weightloss threads now (not Semaglutide - WeGovy) which has been approved for weightloss by the MHRA. But let them say what they like.

AngelicKaty · 07/10/2024 23:03

since1986 · 07/10/2024 22:55

For those at the back..

Our 👏 NHS 👏 supply 👏 chains 👏 are 👏 protected 👏 and 👏 separate 👏 to 👏 private 👏 in 👏 the 👏 UK.

And what does this have to do with there being insufficient supply from the manufacturer? Go and do some basic research instead of spouting the same old nonsense.

WhiteLily1 · 07/10/2024 23:03

It’s deeply concerning that ads for this medication are being played everywhere I bloody look- like they are a tube of smarties or something.

4 People I know who are a stone or 2 heavier than they want to be have started injecting with this drug for £170-£200 per month. Curbs your hunger they say. Lost pounds and pounds quickly. Not really eating any different foods- just much less.
What happens when they finish the course? Going to be just as hungry as before and no change in life time dietary habits.
The amount of people who are going to be injecting this drug with no medical advice for months and possibly years at a time is absolutely frightening. Seriously worried about this later down the line.
This isn’t just a minority of people with a BMI of more than 30 taking these. This is every day women who just want to lose a couple of stone.

ChangeHasCome · 07/10/2024 23:05

People who're oh so concerned about the fatties, a protest to get the govt to stop selling us shite and making toxic junk easily available and accessible would be a start. Do something for once, not just preaching online.

OonaStubbs · 07/10/2024 23:07

People need to eat less and do more exercise instead of taking drugs.

Take responsibility, just because fatty food is readily available and heavily advertised doesn't mean you have to buy it and eat it.

NamechangeRugby · 07/10/2024 23:07

Why are we not being vocal about the miracle of weight loss jabs. ?

There are so, so many of these threads in the past 48 hours. Weirdly they seem to use use the mis-spelling 'Mountjaro'. Is that intentional to avoid liability? Or are the discount link codes scams? There is a poster who paid today, but is struggling with a rejected photo.

Do Ops & certain posters get free or discounted jabs if they post? Or are the Usernames we are seeing over and over again bots?

Is the company trying to drive up its share price? Or create huge pressure on the NHS to up its procurement in the UK? Or just seeking to increase the market now it has the go ahead for weight loss as well as T2? Or up its market share?

What is it that is driving this huge spate of MounTjaro enthusiastic posts, discount codes etc in the past 48 hours?

ChangeHasCome · 07/10/2024 23:08

AngelicKaty · 07/10/2024 23:03

And what does this have to do with there being insufficient supply from the manufacturer? Go and do some basic research instead of spouting the same old nonsense.

What does a claim of semaglutide shortage in the US have to do with Tirzepatide approved and available for weightloss in the UK?

Waboofoo · 07/10/2024 23:08

doodleygirl · 07/10/2024 19:04

Not trying to be goady but if you are exercising and healthy eating why do you need injections?

Are you serious?!! She would not have lost the weight without the medication.

ChangeHasCome · 07/10/2024 23:10

OonaStubbs · 07/10/2024 23:07

People need to eat less and do more exercise instead of taking drugs.

Take responsibility, just because fatty food is readily available and heavily advertised doesn't mean you have to buy it and eat it.

But why is it readily available and heavily advertised if it's so bad? That is the question people need to start asking the govt and the reason for protest if people are so concerned about fatties and the food they claim they gorge themselves on. Attack the root cause.

AngelicKaty · 07/10/2024 23:10

ChangeHasCome · 07/10/2024 23:03

Indeed. Not to mention most people are taking Tirzepatide (Mounjaro) on these weightloss threads now (not Semaglutide - WeGovy) which has been approved for weightloss by the MHRA. But let them say what they like.

Update 21st June 2024 on diabetes.org.uk:
Why are there supply issues with GLP-1 RAs?
The NHS is currently facing supply issues with GLP-1 RAs, a range of drugs used for managing blood glucose levels in people with type 2 diabetes.
The global shortage in supply is partly due to a surge in off-label prescriptions of the drug Semaglutide being issued for weight loss which is outstripping supply.
Previously (since the summer of 2023) all stocks of GLP-1 RAs had to be reserved for those already using these medications, meaning that thousands of people who could benefit from these medications were not able to access them.

Flopsy145 · 07/10/2024 23:10

since1986 · 07/10/2024 22:40

No, we feel sorry for your sister because her own sibling is such an ignorant twit she can't see that her own family member has spiralled from some main trigger event years ago, and there really isn't any way back for her without extreme intervention. Intervention that should be supported.

Given your responses, I imagine you're some part of the root cause in her youth.

Haha ok, I know her better than you and know this is not the case. I've never lived with her either (step siblings) and we've always been very close, she's the first to say she got to the weight she is because of eating too much and not moving enough. She jokes about it herself.

Look, I say all this not as some size 8 super fit super healthy person, but as someone currently sitting about 20 kg heavier than I'd like to be. I could blame two pregnancies, two c sections, not enough time, not enough this not enough that. But I know and hold my hands up to the fact I got lazy and lax, I'm lucky enough to know what I'm doing with food and exercise so know what to do to bring it back and currently on that journey. But my main reasons for doing so are to look good and be stronger and fitter, personally no I wouldn't take an injection to speed that process along. But yeah I do get that there are people with mobility issues and what not where it's more life or death and I get that a weight loss injection is necessary at that point, apologies for not being clearer.

Waboofoo · 07/10/2024 23:10

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 07/10/2024 19:07

Because some people think it's utterly ludicrous to be pumping crap into your veins in order to lose weight. And no-one knows the long term effects of weight loss jans .. I foresee a catastrophic fallout in a few years from them.

Also, SOME people eat less and get more exercise to lose weight. I know, imagine that. Shock

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And you will be rubbing your hands in glee!!

Oh what joy you take in others misery.