Continuing Mounjaro... Part 22

[Jimmyneutronsforehead]

It's thread 22 time! As usual please fill up the previous thread before we make a start on this one.

Huge congratulations to every one who has made losses, and well done to those who have graduated the mounjaro club! We would love you to come back and share your tips for maintenance so we can all continue to learn and grow from each other.

Pointers for newbies:
Please note: Mounjaro will only be be prescribed initially if your BMI is above 30. If you have additional health conditions you can get the medication with a BMI 27. (Prediabetes, high blood pressure, high cholesterol or heart problems)
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Linking Wallywobbles site, as theyve very kindly compiled all threads so far, pointers for newbies, weightloss tracker, links to discount codes, tips and tricks and high protein recipes.
Site with all the info :
https://wattnext.notion.site/e880d9342b7a4bab94c244b34e0e5841?v=cc1edc3f1c2b41dab3011c8d9063df0a

Miss Mounjaro UK has the most up to date price comparison charts: https://www.missmounjarouk.com/

This one's the most recent I will also post the image.

Just to copy from the previous thread as it's highly useful information:
https://www.diabetes.org.uk/guide-to-diabetes/enjoy-food/carbohydrates-and-diabetes/carbs-and-cooking
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/cooling-resistant-starch#TOC_TITLE_HDR_6

MabelSpan:
For those who love their carbs, I grow my own veg, including lots of potatoes so eat them most days. You can dramatically increase the amount of resistant starch, a type of fibre, in your potatoes, rice and pasta and bread simply by cooking then cooling, ideally overnight or freezing in the case of bread and then reheating or toasting in the case of bread.

Please remember to do this safely if this is something you would like to do.

In light of being in close proximity to someone who has had complications from Mounjaro, I just want to say for any newbies: We are a wonderful community of Mounjaro users with a wealth of knowledge between us, but we're not a medical service. We are all people who have acknowledged the risk to benefit ratio, and are following our clinicians advice. If you do have any serious side effects listed on the information sheet that comes with your medication, please seek medical advice.

There are no questions too silly, no loss too small to celebrate, no hurdle not worth the challenge and huge congratulations to everyone who has made it this far in their journey and once again, welcome to thread 22.

Four doses in I've got a suspected gallbladder issue. Doctor advised me to stop taking Mounjaro and get a consultation with a GI surgeon.

I've had this pain before starting Mounjaro, and had a clear ultrasound, but he said the Mounjaro, in stimulating contraction of the gallbladder, can exacerbate any existing issue, and that he's seeing a lot of gallbladder issues with Mounjaro.

I've lost 12 lbs, and was doing well. Bugger.

There is a lady on TikTok called Dr Mel who is a GP and clinical lead at Pharmulous who was talking about having gallstones being a contraindication for MJ. The problem is that weight loss causes gallbladder issues too, whether from dieting or MJ, so this can be a double whammy.
It is a horrible pain, good luck x

@SnacklessWonder yes. So much so that I googled it & found ppl on Reddit have experienced similar.

Interesting article about MJ today about the (loathsome) Nadine Dorries

She's 5 foot 6 inches and now weighs 8stone 12 pounds (a size 10) after a few months on MJ

She looks slim and well, not skinny or skeletal. And the docs concur.

It really shows me that aiming for 8 stone is probably the right weight for me as I'm 8 inches shorter than her 😱

Thanks @GingerLemonTea @BellaCriesAndThatsAlright sounds like it's likely the Mounjaro then. Will make more of an effort to drink more water, I've really fallen off with that recently since the weather has got colder!

Finally I'm under 200lbs! If the last couple of weeks are anything to go by I'll go up and down a few times but this will be absolutely the last time I go through this! Anything that begins with a 2 will soon be gone forever.

25 weeks and 37lbs down. Half way there!

I've had a clear out of some clothes and things I was squeezing into are getting loose so it's good to see progress. Anything a size 20 has been sent to the charity shops!

SW - 236.8lb
CW - 199.2lb
GW - 154lb

I'm on my 2nd 7.5mg dose and had a 3lb loss this week which is my biggest weekly loss since the beginning. A couple of weeks like this before Christmas would be nice to have another stone off but the 'slow and steady' approach is working.

@SnacklessWonder I take D Mannose tablets to keep it at bay. I don’t take them daily, just when I feel it starting and it mostly keeps it away. Have been taking since before MJ. Even so have noticed episodes.

I was with zava for my first few pens and found it so stressful. Never knew when despatch would be. I moved to cloud for the next two pens and was very unimpressed - even got a refund as they messed up and my second pen was warm. I'm now with oushk and it's just heaven. They are not the cheapest but the service is second to none. You chose a delivery day and it's delivered that day ice cold.

Morning all.

I'm very sorry to read that mounjaro isn't working for every one as intended.

I've had a rough few days with the start of mirtazipine which I will not be taking again.

How any one is supposed to cope with how drowsy and hungry that makes you I don't know but it's felt like I've been poisoned into a stupor, I've spent the past 48 hours nodding off to sleep and digging into the halloween treats.

Thankfully feel back to normal now and it is injection day but I am going to delay by 1 day because the insomnia is quite intense on injection day and I don't want to go from 48 hours of nodding off to 48 hours of being switched on.

I think I'm going to really prioritise exercise in the first 3 days from injection day going forward in hopes that expending some energy really makes a difference.

I asked here in Sept but no one responded. I had the most awful cystitis whick I knew was the MJ. I'd been to a festival and not drank nearly enough because I was busy and it was harder to refill my water constantly. I had the worst cystitis I've had in decades. Took a dose of strong antibiotics to get rid. Now I feel I'm very sensitive bladder and go more than I need to but the pain has gone. My intake has dropped again so I'm conscious it could return. It's hard drinking a lot and caffienated drinks make it worse.

I've not heard of a link between cystitis and mounjaro but that doesn't mean there isn't one.

At first mounjaro did make me wee a lot and that's how I lost a lot of water weight at first. I think if you work in a busy place and you're not able to get to the loo when your body tells you or you're predisposed to cystitis then it's easier to develop it when you're weeing out more than you're taking in.

Caffeine is a diuretic which makes you need to wee a lot anyway and as mj slows down the digestive process if you're particularly sensitive to caffeine it might be best to really limit consumption. I have to watch it anyway as it rends me incontinent without cystitis. Bit embarrassing at 30.

I'll do a bit of research on the links between them and do a post about it, but I'm very mindful to make sure I'm not making out what I'm saying is the one and only true fact so I don't want to sound preachy either. Just think if it's affecting a number of people it's worth doing some digging into for some community shared knowledge.

I would look awful at 8st

I'm 5f 7 so inch taller

But got to 10-10 via ww Years ago and looked gaunt

I'm about 5'6 and would also look dreadful at that weight. I got down to about 10st10 in my 20s, it was unsustainable and totally miserable plus still classed as overweight!
I'm now in my 60s, almost 3st down with at least that much to lose again, and already feel that my face looks a bit droopy. If I went to the healthy weight bracket I'd look like a melted candle!

Lol @QueenOfHiraeth at melted candle but Kwym

Yes at 11/12s I will be think still overweight but it's not sustainable to keep it under 11

Let alone 8 nearly 9st

I am 5ft 1 and I think my sweet spot is 9st. Still a bit plump at that (NHS BMI says I can go to 7 stone - DH was horrified at the thought of me dropping another 2.5 stone) but more maintainable for me, and my face looks better. Any lower and I get more wrinkles. It's a balance between face and ass. I also think the older you get the better you look with a bit of padding.

Same with me! I am 5’7” and aiming for 10st7, same weight I got to with WW and stuck at for years (before Covid and a dastardly ex with a Chinese takeaway fetish). Anything lower than 11 and my DSis says I look like a coat hanger.

I'm 5'5" and would look terrible at 8 stone. It depends what build you have - I'm a larger frame, typical endomorph, built for strength not speed! I looked like a rake at just under 10 stone when I last lost weight, my clothes hung off, had no shape. I look better at the higher end of the "normal BMI" range, like 24ish, which would be about 10.5 stone or 65kg. I can imagine someone who had a smaller build would suit being at the lower end though.

So at 8 stone that would be BMI 23+ for me as I'm supposed to be 6-8 stone 4 I think

You're not really "supposed to" be anything @LaurieFairyCake You need to find what is right for you. The NHS BMI model is outdated and seriously flawed. A lot of other things should be take into account.

DP told me I'm built like a slavic farmer so I'd look dreadful at 7 stone.

Don't really know what to make of any of the sentence he said.

Thanks, I guess.

Also happy Halloween, merry trick or treating with your little ones if you're making the journey out.

After spending ages searching for a calorie and macro app that suited me and also a weight loss graph app, I’ve finally settled on a couple of them. Fat Secret for calorie counting and Monitor your Weight for weight loss tracking. I thought I’d repost on here as they are both easy to use and free (what I was looking for!). I downloaded (and then deleted a few others as they were difficult to use etc).

Hi @Jimmyneutronsforehead is there a reason that you were prescribed mirtazipine in particular? Only asking as I'm on citalopram for depression and anxiety and I've been okay taking that, along with propranolol. I have been tired on Mounjaro though, and not had any of the energy that some people have experienced (still on 5mg having started in June).

@Greyrockin Energy??? Is that another "benefit" I am missing out on???
I wonder if a lot of this is age related, I am post-menopausal by a fair few years and find the effects are much slower, more subtle and needing higher doses than many younger women seem to find. I supposed I have more years entrenched in being fat though...

Basically I need something that won’t trigger impulsive thoughts, make me gain weight, knock me out, or leave me constantly hungry. It also needs to be okay if I forget a dose here and there because I always forget. I have got ptsd and it's lead to insomnia so this time the doctor thought mirtazipine was the best fit.

I don't know why they've not offered me propranolol. I have had some isolated heart incidents like myocarditis but can't imagine that would be a reason to not offer it. Blood pressure has always been slightly high but not too far out of the range of normal. Maybe it's just because I don't get many physical anxiety based symptoms.

I am autistic and have ADHD though so I don't know if that also influences their decision. My GP at the moment though is a right sweetheart and has been calling me every 2 to 3 weeks and I have been doing talking therapy too through iapt.

@Greyrockin and @QueenOfHiraeth - the only time I've heard of people being energetic on MJ was when they'd lost about 4 or 5 stone and moved much more easily. I'm only on Week 5 but I'm sluggish and knackered all the damned time.