OK. This injection is crazy

[KittyGetSmall]

First injection on Friday.

I am a massive compulsive eater. It's not hunger. I can feel like I'm going to be sick I'm so full and I will still try and add another biscuit.

It gone. I just...I don't know... it's just gone. The desire. The compulsion. The constant thoughts about what I will eat, what's in the fridge, where am I going today and what food outlets are near there?

It's 1.30 and I've not eaten anything.

I've just put my shopping away and usually I would HONESTLY eat so much. Put away the crisps and eat a packet. Put away thw kids brioche, eat one. New meat, make a sandwich. A yogurt etc

I didn't touch a thing.

What is this sorcery???

People who do not have diabetes have not been taking them for a long time.

@fossilgap I'm at the end of my journey now and I've never had appetite suppression and I've never had a feeling of fullness - managed to lose 5 stone in 6 months

It is really very different for everyone

I remember seeing a documentary years ago where they did brain scans of addicts and the “addiction centre” of their brain lit up like a Christmas tree when they saw their drug. It was a real lightbulb moment for me; I totally have that reaction to certain foods.

I’m using Saxenda to help establish healthy eating habits in order to lose weight. For me, this means cutting out sugar and doing 5/2 fasting. The injections mean that fast days are easier and I don’t binge on non-fast days. I’m then planning to maintain the weight loss by fasting once a week, as recommended on the 5/2. Hopefully the injections will help me to reset so that this is achievable.

Having previously lost and gained weight back on similar meds, my main learning has been that the injections are there to facilitate larger lifestyle changes, they’re not the main event.

Despite my user name I’ve had great success on Mounjaro too! Both saxenda and ozempic made me feel very depressed so I was very cautious about trying Mounjaro but I’ve lost 21 pounds in just over 6 months. I stayed on the 2.5 shots for most of that because I really wanted to lose weight slowly and was very worried about side effects. It’s changed my life… I’m no longer obsessed about food and I’m willing to be photographed with my family again!

Happy to see rigorous evidence to support this statement but the studies I saw said it absolutely does not 'give you' either, the relative risk of thyroid cancer increases from the baseline by c30%, that is it increases the risk from a low level (from c1.2%) to a still low level (say 1.5%).

The risk of kidney disease amongst diabetics drops by c25%.

As a PP said, the health risks from obesity significantly outweigh any increase from thyroid cancer and kidney disease.

If you are referring to Mounjaro can you cite any source at all for this?:

At the moment the NHS is not prescribing the injections to 'new' people needing it because of the shortage caused by the private prescriptions for people wanting to use it for weight loss.

Because it is simply not true, if you are in fact referring to Mounjaro.

Actually nevermind, I don't want to drag into an argument here 😊 (and sorry I've quoted your post, I wasn't responding to you but to the original post there!)

Translation: I have no actual evidence to back up what I said.

You’ve misunderstood. If you read what she posted before she edited, she was saying that there is no shortage of MJ, the NHS are just choosing not to pay for it. Which is true.

That is exactly my experience too. Exactly.

@IrisPallida @cakewench i think @Silvers11 was referring to Ozempic as she was prescribed Rybelsus for diabetes. I think her diabetes nurse was saying that are not putting new patients on Ozempic due to shortages. She wasn’t referring to either Mounjaro or Wegovy.

Apologies

@IrisPallida - the Source(s) for this (and I was referring to Ozempic) is online. I should also have said that I was referring to NHS Scotland, which is separate to NHS for England . https://www.publications.scot.nhs.uk/publication/8091

Have been told this by 2 GP's and my Diabetic nurse on several occasions. The tablets ( Rybylus) only came back as being available on the NHS in the last few months. They expect it to be next year before the injections can be prescribed to 'new' Diabetic patients needing it. Due to shortage of supplies to NHS (Scotland). People already on it can stay on it but supplies are expected to be intermittent for at least the rest of 2024 so no new patients until supplies improve

Not full as in stuffed. Full as in I can’t finish that, or I don’t want any more. It’s an off switch really.

it does change your relationship with food. I would often eat snacks, biscuits, crisps and sweet stuff in place of food. I never saw those sorts of foods as treats. I now understand what a treat actually is- something you might have once a week, not 3 or 4 times a day.

Side effects are dire though- acid reflux and lots of issues with sulphur burps originally.

Not read the full thread, so apologies if this has already been answered.

When you eat a big meal, your stomach produces a hormone that tells your brain to stop eating. This is how you get that "I'm so full I couldn't possibly eat another bite" feeling. The weight loss medications mimic that hormone.

The OP already answered this, she has a child with ARFID. Often the advice is just to feed them whatever they will eat.

Often their favoured foods are the unhealthy options though. I have a child with the same condition, sometimes if he didn’t have the unhealthy option he wouldn’t eat. 5 weeks refusing all food apart from petit filous was a particular highlight.

There are no favoured foods with ARFID. That is fussy eating you're thinking of.

These are her SAFE foods. She literally does.not eat anything else.

This isn't the thread for this. I'm not defending my daughters eating disorder

'Favoured' suggests they can eat other things but prefer the 'junk' food.

This is not ARFID.

That's very contradictory as if you were familiar with ARFID I don't see how you could suggest her food is Favoured
It's like rule number 1 that it's not Favoured food and there's no 2nd options with them.

But thankyou